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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:42 AM
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The price of gas jumped up this past weekend. Looks like the oil speculators are at it again.

How 'bout in your neck of the woods?



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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:43 AM
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1. I bet it was Rove. nt
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:45 AM
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2. jumped .10 pg last week here....
Milan,Illinois.....BP station.....2.49---2.59
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:47 AM
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3. went up 16 cents overnight
big jumps - and when it goes down it's a penny a pop... :grr:
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:56 AM
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Went up 21 cents a few days ago.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:56 AM
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4. I still want to know why gas was $4.50 last summer.
I guess I know why, I just want to hear an official explanation.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:04 PM
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9. It was so high because the ENTIRE world was still firing on all cylinders and
the supply of oil and refining capacity was extremely strained. The fact that oil and gas were in tight supply is what caused the speculation in the commodities markets and oil WAS NOT THE ONLY COMMODITY that went through the roof.

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:29 PM
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15. So we went from "strained" to "plenty of reserve"
in a few, short months? We hear now that natural gas will be lower this winter because reserves are so high? I call bullshit. Sick of being manipulated by people making billions.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:50 PM
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19. Yes, but not in a few short months. Demand actually outstripped supply
and there were spot shortages all over the world, even here in the U.S., for most of 2008. In July of 2008 the price per barrell of oil reached $147 as demand challenged supply. As with every such situation, the price went up and specualtion went with it. But, in September of last year, the global economy collapsed and with it demand for petroleum products. A surplus has been building ever since which, rather than having been a "few short months", has been a year.

Natural gas may very well be lower this winter because reserves have been added from right here in the Barnett Shale where I live to the other gas plays now going on in Louisianna and a couple of other domestic locations. But, we're not talking about natural gas. However, the price of home heating oil may again be a problem this year, though probably not as bad as it was last winter.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:01 PM
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21. This while OPEC was cutting production for much
of 2008. Demand didn't just stop in July '08. US lost hundreds of thousands jobs each month GWB was in office. Speculators are aggravating the problem. Oil is inching up because economists are yelling "recession is over" and speculators are reacting to economic news.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:31 PM
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23. Oil is inching up because the Dollar is declining. I already told you, no demand
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 01:58 PM by Subdivisions
didn't just stop in July '08. It's taken a year for things to come to where they are now. OPEC was cutting production because Saudi Arabia's Ghawar production is peaking and they're having to pump in more and more water to keep production up. Also several OPEC countries have passed the peak in their oil production. They weren't cutting production to respond to market forces, they cut production BECAUSE THEY HAD TO.

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=d12
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:41 PM
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25. Then that is different than what they were saying.
Last 2 OPEC meetings were in the heart of the collapse of prices from $147 down to $50.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:42 PM
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26. last summer? not.
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 04:44 PM by Hannah Bell
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:57 AM
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5. Mid,TN,up 20 cents a gal in the past week....
Wall St. gone amuck once again.. WHERE ARE THE REGULATORS...WITH THEIR NEW REGULATIONS...Hey... Washington...WE own Wall St....Tell them NO...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:57 AM
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6. Check what the dollar has been doing
The fall in the dollar is driving up the cost of a barrel of crude oil, especially that on the spot market. That means producers costs are going up and that means the retail cost will go up.

$140/barrel spot market oil last year was due to heavy speculation in commodities by hedge funds and other institutional investors. I don't see that happening right now and I don't see prices at the pump going back to four bucks a gallon.

Prices are going up, though. I hope people were able to take advantage of the CARS program and get something more economical to drive.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:00 PM
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7. Dollar is falling
Has nothing to do with speculators. The printing of money we've done to support our deficit and Wall Street is resulting in our money buying less. Continue to see a slow creep up as the dollar continues to depreciate.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:01 PM
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8. Sigh. It's NOT SPECULATORS! Jeez...do some research! n/t
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:19 PM
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10. St Loouie went from 2.19 to 2.49
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:22 PM
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11. This is real world example of a dollar being devalued.
A dollar buys less of everything and that includes oil.
Oil's move up has almost perfectly matched the dollar's move down.

There is a cost associated with spending trillions and trillions of dollars we don't have. Until the federal govt shores up the balance sheet the dollar will be under downward pressure and imports traded in dollars( such as oil) will be under constant upward pressure.

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Freeatleast Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:22 PM
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12. I make it a point
to drive much less.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:22 PM
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13. At Arco in L.A.
$3.87 a gallon.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:24 PM
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14. something else to notice!!!!
while no one was paying attention...super premium, which for years has been 20 cents above regular has mysteriously gone to about 26 cents above regular......shizzam
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:31 PM
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16. Dollar falling
because Bernanke and Geitner are "making it rain" on the banks. Bailouts don't come free.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:33 PM
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17. Yes, 20 cents a gallon here. nt
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:35 PM
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18. October is a big 'price index' month
hold it down until they can claim no inflation, screw the seniors and others with cost of living related pay and raises, such as all minimum wage earners in Colorado, then let the prices rip again for several months. Like clockwork.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:00 PM
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20. The price is innocents slaughtered in senseless oil wars
Still

Sigh
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:30 PM
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22. It is $2.53 today at my neighborhood station but that is down from
$2.62 last weekend. In mid- September it was down to $2.39.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:33 PM
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24. this is the dollar tanking...not oil climbing
to get a real feel for the cost of oil track it against gold...not USD...

sP
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:36 PM
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27. $3.30 for 91 octane in rip-off San Francisco and neighboring San Mateo County.
Around here, the prices never went back down since the last BS increases that took place months ago.
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