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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:38 PM
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Washington Redskins Cheerleader Has Psychogenic Disease after Flu shot
Psychogenic means that it no physiological reason for the symptoms. In other words, NOT from a vaccine but from in her head like phantom pain after an amputation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP0QYLMUZb4&feature=youtube_gdata

http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Baltimore-Disease-Prevention-Examiner~y2009m10d16-Woman-claiming-she-acquired-dystonia-from-a-flu-shot-may-have-it-all-in-her-head
Video of a former NFL cheerleader who allegedly acquired dystonia from a flu vaccine has been making the rounds lately all over the media and online. The woman, Desiree Jennings, states in her interviews that she acquired the flu from a flu vaccine she received ten days earlier and then the symptoms of dystonia began showing.

On the October 16, 2009, Fox News show, "The O'Reilly Factor", Dr. Leigh Vinocur from the University of Maryland Medical System offered an alternative cause to Ms. Jennings' syndrome. Dr. Vinocur stated that there have been no cases of dystonia associated with the flu vaccine and that neurology experts at the University of Maryland were using Ms. Jennings' case to teach neurology residents about psychogenic dystonia.

Dystonia is a neurological disorder where twitches and other repetitive, involuntary reactions occur. Normally, these repetitive actions do not let up. In the interview videos, Ms. Jennings' symptoms subside at times. According to Dr. Vinocur, neurologists saw the video and were convinced it was psychogenic.

Psychogenic disorders do not mean that a person is faking their symptoms. Rather, it means that the person truly believes that the symptoms are real. However, there is no physiological reason for the symptoms. It truly is all in their head. Examples include phantom limb syndrome, where a hand that has been amputated along with a limb is felt by the person as being clinched or still being there. Psychotherapy or some medications to treat the mental issues can help deal with psychogenic disorders.

Another important detail in Ms. Jennings' story is that she acquired flu from the flu vaccine. This is a scientific impossiblity. The flu virus in the injected vaccine is dead, inactive. In the solution being injected, the virus has no cells in which to live and reproduce. Viruses are, by definition, obligate intracellular parasites. They need cells to live, grow, and reproduce. There has been no recorded case of acquired flu from the flu shot vaccine. Likewise, if true, Ms. Jennings would be the first case of dystonia as a result of the flu vaccine. Furthermore, the Food and Drug Administration did not find anything wrong or different about the lot of vaccine used.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:39 PM
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1. Watching the team play could do that.
Hey - SOMEONE had to say it - might as well be by someone who cares...

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:44 PM
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3. I said that in the other thread here! Did you unrec this thread?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:46 PM
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5. probably one of my anti-fans. I saw you wrote that elsewhere, thought it funny there too
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 09:47 PM by uppityperson
one of the ones that would rather be upset over false info than reassured over updates. Ah well, takes all kinds
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:06 PM
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11. Heh.
Funny, but I responded to your thread before reading the entire thing. I just saw "Redskins" and had to jump on that!

I'm a Cowboys fan, so that comes natural to me!

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:46 PM
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6. No, should I have done so?
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:42 PM
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2. Gee. I wonder where she could have gotten the idea
that fli vaccine is harmful?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:45 PM
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4. maybe all the media hysteria bright shiny thing?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:58 PM
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7. Now why would anyone unrecommend this?
WOW!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:01 PM
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8. I'm pretty sure she wasn't an official cheerleader either...
...but some sort of cheerleader "intern".
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:03 PM
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9. Seriously? This is getting balloony now. Another question re timing, flu vx was out in Sept
yet she says she got it in Aug.

Another DUism has been made "balloony".
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:10 PM
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12. A Washington Redskins "Ambassador".
Hoping to one day be a full-fledged cheerleader.

That's how she was described in this earlier article.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/health/One-in-a-Million-Shot-64189142.html

She's listed on their site as an "Ambassador".

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Ambassadors_503.jsp
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:06 PM
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10. Frankly, I call bullshit on the doctor.
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 10:09 PM by ohheckyeah
It certainly wouldn't be the first time that a woman is told that what turns out to be a real physical problem is all in her head. I'm not saying the flu vaccine caused her problem but I'm not necessarily buying that it's all in her head.

This doctor diagnosed her by looking at a video? Ridiculous.

The more I think about this the madder it makes me. How DARE he say something like that when he hasn't even met the woman?

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:11 PM
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13. No, the doctor on the video didn't diagnose her but neurologists @ U Maryland
neurology experts at the University of Maryland are using Ms. Jennings' case to teach neurology residents about psychogenic dystonia.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:18 PM
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15. This is what the story said:
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 10:18 PM by ohheckyeah
According to Dr. Vinocur, neurologists saw the video and were convinced it was psychogenic.

What bullshit.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:16 PM
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14. Poor thing! I really, really hope she gets better soon.
That said, I don't get alarmed easily. I'll have to wait and see on this, especially if FOX pounces on a story, as good old Juan does here. "Be afraid. Be very afraid." Uh huh. I have Terror Fatigue and just don't have the energy to go through all their gyrations. But I do feel very sorry for that young lady and hope she recovers fully and soon.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:15 AM
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16. One physician on the O'Reilly Factor
I know that there are several dozen people here who delight in ridiculing the "anti-vaxers", but consider the source.

It isn't definitive.

It isn't Peer Reviewed.

It's BILL FUCKING O'REILLY.

Even if Vinocur is on the up-and-up (which is likely), it's still BILL FUCKING O'REILLY.

--d!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:57 PM
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17. Unfortunately that is where the original news piece was also. The one that is "true"
It started with FOX news also. The update is also on FOX news. But do you see people on the original piece saying "it's FOX news eyeroll"? No. You see them taking it seriously. Why?
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