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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 03:50 PM Original message |
Now we are seeing the clash of the "activist class" and the "governing class" that was predicted... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. Crush the DLC!! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Interesting piece. So true that insiders have no clue what... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Here is how you govern: You destroy the opposition party. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. No, that is how you "rule". |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Same thing. nt |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. When the other party does nothing but obstruct and try to cause failure... |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. your criticism of Obama may not be too popular here, being he is the insider n all nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Well, since I am an outsider.... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 05:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. You're a Dean supporter |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I agree with your comments about the party... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I lived in Florida when all the now Republicans were Dixiecrats |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. My mom and dad were the only Democrats on both sides of the family. |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. this sounds like GOP Bush supporters |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Actually you are right. |
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WeCanWorkItOut (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. On the one hand, it's wonderful, all the citizens so involved. But do they know enough? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. My problem is... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. MAY I POINT OUT SOMETHING HERE.. I was a 2004 delegate for my state |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. You are right about this state. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. flyarm, I applaud you for what you have said here and for what you have done and are doing. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. The more I think about your question....does Congress know enough to decide? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I would wager that less than 10% actually live in our America |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. In our state... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Let me tell you. When it comes to knowledge, academic as well |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. It's clear that Rosenberg is biased in favor of the "governing" class. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. He fails to note the republican statement that bipartisanship = date rape |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. You'll get no argument from me on that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Good post. As one of our former 2004 candidates once said.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. They should heed it, but I doubt they will. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. The DLC New Team |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. So damn true |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. That's true. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's interesting to look back at 2004's expectations for 2008...from the NYT article in the op |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. " . . . they could turn to Indiana Senator Evan Bayh." Now there's a suggestion that's fit for |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
32. Both groups are necessary, but neither would ever admit it. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. What does the Democratic Party stand for? |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
34. Totally Failing to Govern Is a More Accurate Description |
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nradisic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
35. Great post |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. In California, the activists demanded and got |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. This looks like a good read... |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
39. Wasn't he "the machinery's choice" for head of the DNC ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yes, Rosenberg ran for chair. But I think Tim Roemer was choice of leadership... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. Thanks again, MadF |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
42. "Venal", yeah, that's the right word |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
43. To all those of the governing class |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-22-09 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
45. The comfortable never have a clue what is happening. |
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