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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:00 PM
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5 teens accused of setting teen on fire for argument over video game
Teen Charged With Attempted Murder In Burn Attack
One Of Two Additional Teens Charged
5 Teens Now Face Charges In Torching Of Michael
(10/13/2009)

Attempted murder charges were filed against a 15-year-old boy Tuesday afternoon and another teen was charged with aggravated battery, bringing to five the number of teens charged with intentionally setting a boy on fire in an argument that started over a video game.

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"One of the more horrific crimes I have been associated with since I've been with BSO. It's just a horrible, horrible case," said Sgt. Steve Feeley of the Broward Sheriff's Office. "It doesn't reflect very well on our community or our society," said BSO Sheriff Al Lamberti.

Four of the suspects are 15, and the fifth is a 13-year-old boy. All are accused of setting Brewer on fire.

According to BSO, one of the juvenile suspects, the alleged ringleader, was owed money by Brewer for a video game. The ringleader allegedly stole Brewer's father's bike as payment, but was caught on Sunday.

Officers arrested the ringleader on Sunday, but he was later released into his parent's custody later. Monday, the five suspects allegedly surrounded Brewer when the ringleader said, "pour it on him, pour it on him," according to Sgt. Feeley.

One of the suspects allegedly poured alcohol on Brewer, and then Mendez allegedly used a lighter to set Brewer on fire, according to the BSO. The lighter was found by Broward Sheriff's Deputies at the scene of the crime.

A neighbor heard his screams for help and put out the flames with a fire extinguisher, said Malissa Durkee, Brewer's sister. The teen then ripped off his shirt and jumped into the pool.

Neighbor Jennifer Nielsen, a former lifeguard, heard Michael's screams and ran outside to help. She said she comforted Michael as he screamed in agony.


http://cbs4.com/local/deerfield.beach.teen.2.1244436.html
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:01 PM
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1. Florida. I don't even need to open these threads anymore to know it's probably Florida.
Poor thing. :(
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:03 PM
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3. It could have been Texas, just as easily. Not likely anywhere else, though. (nt)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:08 PM
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24. That's a ridiculous statement.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:12 PM
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27. Well, not *as* likely anywhere else. :D (nt)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:24 PM
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28. There's about a ten percent likelihood that anything bad in the US happens in TX
About 90% it happens somewhere else.

Almost no chance it happens in small states.


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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:43 PM
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45. Glad you added the stupid ass smiley.
:eyes:
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:38 PM
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42. Bigot # 2
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:42 PM
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44. Stop that bullshit.
Terrible and cruel things happen all over this country unfortunately. No state is exempt from craziness. Hello Columbine.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:10 PM
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10. Yeah, no one would EVER do this in, say....
New York: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199204230798292.html


or Maine: http://www.wmtw.com/news/18519512/detail.html

or Vancouver: http://www.canada.com/fire+while+sleeping+outdoors+Vancouver+police/2093358/story.html


Or any of a few dozen other places I found with a simple Google search. Quit picking on Florida, dammit! I stick my tongue out at you! :P


:silly:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:16 PM
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12. Okay, okay - sorry!
:D
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:38 PM
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21. Oh no, not rational thought.
Anything but that.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:08 PM
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25. That's ridiculous.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:37 PM
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40. dupe
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 08:37 PM by MellowDem
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:38 PM
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41. Bigot #1 nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:02 PM
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2. I wonder if the Video Games
these kids are playing has anything to do with their barbaric behavior
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:05 PM
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4. NO!
And neither does our society's addiction to using violence to solve its problems. We'll just write these kids off as animals, lock them away, and never think about it again.

Whew! That's better. Oh yeah, damn shame about the kid who got set on fire, sorry for his family's pain and his discomfort, blah, blah, blah.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:17 PM
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13. Well, frankly, these kids ARE animals
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 04:18 PM by brentspeak
Actually, not even animals, as animals don't set people or each other on fire.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:35 PM
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20. Step 1 complete
Dehumanize the perpetrators as aberrations or exceptions rather than predictable products of our society.

Still need to get on to steps 2 and 3: Make the monsters go away forever (or a good long time), and induce amnesia so that we don't think about the why ever again. After all, we have 300 million people in this country, and because not every last one of us is setting our adversaries on fire, we must be doing everything else just fine as soon as we take these young fellows out of the equation.

All better now. Let's go see what's on teevee.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:08 PM
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8. I play violent games all the time and I don't set people on fire.
So do millions of other people.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:13 PM
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11. Were you also listening to ... heavy metal or rap music?!
Because we need to decide if it was the music or the video game that makes one kid out of one million do things like this.

It's gotta be one or the other, right? Can't be that they're poorly reared, or psychologically deficient, or just plain sociopaths, can it? That would be too easy.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:19 PM
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14. Well, I guess we'll just have to wonder...
...because we're not supposed to accuse folks of poor parenting, either, according to some here at DU. However, I think it's still okay here to blame schools, teachers or poverty, so it must be one of those three that created these vicious little sociopaths. I'm waiting for the interviews with the suspects' parents in which they will inevitably claim, "My little baby would never do that!"
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:22 PM
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16. Agreed. It's NOT the fault of genetics or parenting, because those are far too likely.
Probably the video games or the music thing.

I'm going to blame the ACLU until they prove it's not their fault.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:20 PM
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15. Yes, I was. I also smoke weed and drink. nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:22 PM
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17. Well, there you are.
Everyone knows weed + video games = burning a 13 year old alive with gasoline.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:11 PM
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26. Do you wear Goth clothing while playing those games? n/t
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:48 PM
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34. No. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:05 PM
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36. Good. Otherwise you would be certain to commit acts of wanton mayhem. n/t
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:09 PM
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38. I know. That's why I don't wear that stuff. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:35 PM
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39. Good idea! n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:44 PM
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33. By your logic, video games prevent rape.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:05 PM
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5. horrible
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:06 PM
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6. Thank goodness they induced a coma.
I have taken care of burn patients and there is nothing I have ever seen that can cause such pain. Poor child. He is in for a very long journey.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:06 PM
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7. Precious snowflakes. Parents should be proud.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:08 PM
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9. those are some sick lil boys that did that.
someone should have spotted them a long time ago from the sound of things.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:26 PM
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18. Scary part is, they're likely considered 'normal' by many
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:47 PM
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46. People like that can put up fronts.
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 08:48 PM by Shell Beau
Parents and teachers can see one thing... Then there are those who we know should have been at least evaluated. People want to blame someone. Who knows what happened with these boys. Bad parents, extreme peer pressure, abuse of some sort,etc. I feel really badly for the kid burned. So sad.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:31 PM
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19. "Officers arrested the ringleader on Sunday, but he was later released into his parent's custody..."
Need to arrest the parents, too...
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:50 PM
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47. We don't necessarily know that.
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 08:51 PM by Shell Beau
He could have been raised in a lovely home. These things can and do happen, while the kid seems to be thriving otherwise. Not saying the parents don't take any blame here, but I don't know. It is usually something going on in the home or at school but not always.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:33 PM
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51. It's all due to probability and statistics. A broken home generally leads to troubled youth.
The ringleader may or may not come from a fucked up household, but given the statistics on troubled youth, I wouldn't hold my breath on the idea that his home is a good place.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:39 PM
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22. Sounds like it was over money not a video game. nt
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:05 PM
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35. Thank you. If it was about money owed for Britney Spears tickets then ALL news would cover it!
Gotta love the news. They find that one 'hot' item and onto the headline it goes!

Video games have as much to do with people committing violence as "rock 'n roll" has to do with underage kids having sex.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:41 PM
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23. There is something seriously wrong with our youth-
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 04:42 PM by BeHereNow
What, this is like the tenth story this week reporting horrendous
acts by teens on other people?
WTF is going on in this world???
Is there something in the water?
A secret plan to create more violent military fodder?
I mean WTF????
BHN
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:29 PM
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29. I say we ban fire before this can happen again.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:37 PM
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30. And alcohol. And matches.
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Brooklyns_Finest Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:42 PM
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31. Setting "snitches" on fire
Dang, things have gotten a lot more hardcore since I was a youth. Poor kid, I hope he recovers from his injuries.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:44 PM
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32. We live in a very violent culture, and no, it is not the video games
they play games that make ours pale in comparison in places like oh Japan.

This is OUR CULTURE and it is high time we face it. That is if we really want to change the culture.

Then again, readying the thread, it is everything but the underlying causes, aka the culture.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:07 PM
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37. Fucking Florida.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:38 PM
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43. Bigot # 3
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:53 PM
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48. Really stop that. It isn't just Florida or Texas.
These kind of things happen all over this country. Terrible things. Stop blaming it on a state. I am so sick of seeing this kind of shit.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:21 PM
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49. What level in what game is pouring alcohol and lighting it?
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:25 PM
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50. How can people be so mean? I just DO NOT get it.
I save bugs in my house when I can.


How can people hurt other humans (except for self defense of course)?
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:33 PM
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52. Take one sociopath, add several esteemless lackeys
And shit like this happens...
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