Kucinich plans to file articles of impeachment against Cheney

[sabra]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/04/articles_of_impeachment_to_be.html

<snip>

April 17, 2007

Dear Colleague:

This week I intend to introduce Articles of Impeachment with respect to the conduct of Vice President Cheney. Please have your staff contact my office at 5-5871 if you would like to receive a confidential copy of the document prior to its introduction in the House.

Sincerely,

/s/

Dennis J. Kucinich

Member of Congress

[Greeby]

1. Woot! Woot! Woot!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[WiseButAngrySara]

35. It's been delayed until next week because of VT massacre.

Sources tell the Sleuth that in light of the mass killings at Virginia Tech Monday, Kucinich's impeachment plans have been put on hold. There will be no action this week, they say.

Kucinich's office had no comment on the Congressman's "Dear Colleague" letter -- which apparently was drafted over the weekend, before the school massacre -- or on what the focus of articles of impeachment against Cheney would be.

But Kucinich shouldn't hold his breath on getting anywhere with his impeachment plan. "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide.

[warren pease]

51. Well, what a smarmy little prick

>"We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide.

Hee hee hee. Oh it's just so quaint and silly to pretend like the will of the people actually matters. Oh, that Dennis. Always acting as if politics is about values, when all it's really about is maintaining the status quo and rewarding the rich.

He's off the record, of course. I wish that's because he's ashamed of himself, but it's more likely that he just got himself a great line to use to pick up really hot babes on the DC cocktail circuit.

And there are those who wonder why I'm so cynical about national politics. Of course, there are also those who think Orlando Florida is a Dominican baseball player.


wp

[dchill]

65. "Orlando Florida"

He's really Cuban, right?

[warren pease]

69. Well, we don't want word to get out...

... since people are still pretty bigoted against ball players from that hell hole of communist perversity and oppression. I mean, free education and health care -- so unamerican. So he passes as a Dominican. I trust you'll keep this quiet.


wp

[dchill]

118. Don't worry...

I smoke "Dominicans" for the same reason. My lips are sealed.

[thekuch]

128. You owe me twenty bucks, Warren Pease..........

I want my damn twenty bucks!!!!

President Kucinich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9REGbr0nfI

[warren pease]

153. But Dennis...

I just sent you a hundred bucks the other day. What happened? Did you blow it on beer and the lottery again? I can't be sending you $20 every time you need to get your one good suit pressed. Have a little damn fiscal responsibility for a change. Stick to your budget (even if it is only $14/day for cheap hotels and questionable food).

It'll be good training for when you start pruning the pentagon and doing all that really unamerican stuff like building a single-payer health care system, or killing the patriot act, or laying off all the NSA snoops, or apologizing to the world for the last eight years, or personally instigating criminal proceedings against several hundred BushCo felons.

This takes discipline and you've got to start somewhere. So OK; $20 this time, but I want the same perks other donors get. We'll start with a poster-sized photo of Defibrillator Dick in an orange jumpsuit and work our way up to stealing the entire GDP of Norway.


Your humble, and only, campaign donor,

wp

[thekuch]

159. First of all.........

First of all, I'm not Dennis Kucinich;
Second, you STILL owe me twenty bucks! You're just trying to get out of it;
And finally, there's no hope for you - an incorrigible, narcisstic, bloodthirsty supporter of government criminals who live, torment and kill by the illegal, unconstitutional bloody "Bush Doctrine."

YOU are upside down. In your criminal world, you have the right to attack, invade and occupy sovereign nations absent any Congressional Declaration of War. In your sordid world, you have the right to spread freedom at the end of a barrel. Your tired, old, shoeworn Dick Cheney talking points are actually punchlines these days all over mainstream TV and cable.
But no!!!! We've got Nerdsel Phibbets right here - still trying to pimp his three-legged dog! You're still trying to figure out how did our oil get underneath their sand?

Tell us again how the bad, bad terrorists are going to hurt us.

There's no such thing as a "War On Terror." Bush's "War On Terror" is actually state-sponsored terrorism. Why don't you just cut out the middle man and go on down to the bloodbank and get you a big drum of blood to drink?

Really you shouldn't be criticized.......no, you should be studied.....

..preferrably under some bright lights, behind safety glass by men in white coats with clipboards.

[warren pease]

163. Umm... OK

I think you may have confused me with someone else. And I didn't really think you were Dennis, nor do I owe anybody on the face of the earth $20 at the moment -- with the possible exception of the various beneficent corporations that dun me for money every month.

Cheers,

wp

[thekuch]

164. god you're thick...it was a joke.....

god you're thick...it was a joke.....

[warren pease]

165. Well, Thick R Us then...

I've got to say that you've mastered concealed irony. I haven't gotten anything quite that vituperative since I was writing a weekly column for an anti-BushCo web site which shall remain nameless.

And the $20's in the mail.


wp

[WiseButAngrySara]

78. That's precisely why I love the Kooch. It's ALL about values,

truth, and what's best for all of us. He is not self-serving. And because of all of his qualities, he is an example of what politicians should be.

[pokercat999]

137. The problem is he's surrounded by cowards and

traitors. Yes, I'm talking about the democrat party. disrespect intended.:mad:

[wicket]

2. K & R

:kick:

[Donnachaidh]

3. Yeah Baby YEAH!

:popcorn:

[tanyev]

4. Woof!

:applause::applause::applause:

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. ..

:yoiks: :evilgrin:

[MadBadger]

6. Goin after the man in charge I see.

[waiting for hope]

7. When you cut the head off.....

just saying.

[madame defarge]

8. Good plan. Impeach Cheney first... n/t

[cascadiance]

17. We should be nailng Bush at the same time!

I don't want another "Pardon everyone" Gerald Ford put in place of him should he leave, and Bush leave later, but thank you Dennis for helping to get SOMETHING started!

[Skink]

9. can he do that?

[hang a left]

14. I believe it only takes one member of the house to introduce

articles of impeachment. I don't know where it will go.

[mikelgb]

23. lol

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

55. Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to

Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach the president, vice president and "all civil Officers of the United States" for "treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Sources tell the Sleuth that in light of the mass killings at Virginia Tech Monday, Kucinich's impeachment plans have been put on hold. There will be no action this week, they say.

Kucinich's office had no comment on the Congressman's "Dear Colleague" letter -- which apparently was drafted over the weekend, before the school massacre -- or on what the focus of articles of impeachment against Cheney would be.

[Tom Joad]

10. Way to go, Dennis.

[formercia]

11. Finally, someone with a set of balls

Go Dennis.

[Robbien]

12. A Congressman is filing articles of impeachment against the VP and it gets reported

back in the blog section.

Tell me again that MSM does not intentionally not cover Kucinich.

[Greeby]

15. To be fair, he hasn't done it yet

He's just spreading the word that he's gonna do it

[Catherine Vincent]

13. Go for it Kucinich!

:bounce:

[Phredicles]

16. About time!

:thumbsup:

[paparush]

18. This Just In: Cheney's Leg Really, Really, Really Hurts...

[Lil Missy]

27. And he's really really been wanting to spend more time with his family.

[Greeby]

19. The Kucinich site is closed in honour of the VT shooting victims

http://kucinich.us/

:patriot:

[ClayZ]

20. WHOOOO HOOOOO! K&R

GO Dennis J. Kucinich

[mikelgb]

21. GO DENNIS!

[alkaline9]

22. Dennis is the man!!!

It should be interesting how this will play out in the House.

Between 4/20 and this, its gonna be a good week :)

[bonito]

24. K&R there is hope n/t

[G_j]

25. K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R!!

[bobthedrummer]

26. Yep.

[Poiuyt]

28. The problem with impeaching Cheney without impeaching Bush also

Bush will be able to appoint a new VP, who would then have an inside track to the WH

[PearliePoo2]

30. Is that how it works?

Congress does not have any involvement?
If that's so, then I agree with you on the inside track.
But surely Kucinich would know this and the opportunity impeaching triggerDick would present.

[smoogatz]

32. New VP would have to be confirmed by majorities in both houses.

Lotsa luck, W.

[PearliePoo2]

37. well then........

this country could be without a VP for awhile.
Where can the precise procedures be found? The Constitution?
The next few weeks will be VERY interesting to say the least.
The Democrats are lifting the rocks and exposing the vile, slimy, wiggling critters underneath.
It's a nasty job and I'm glad there are those up to it. (Waxman, Conyers, Leahy, Kucinich)
C-SPAN here I come.
:popcorn:

[smoogatz]

41. 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution--

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Google is your friend.

[Poiuyt]

39. If Bush were to pick someone like Fred Thompson, he would easily be confirmed

The Congress has not shown any backbone when it comes to stopping Bush's nominees. If he were to find someone who had been one of their colleagues in the Senate, he would get through with no trouble.

[smoogatz]

40. Maybe. But it'd be the Bush KoD (kiss of death) for Thompson's political

career--especially if he participated in any pardon chicanery, a la Gerry Ford. They'd need someone inoffensive--maybe even an independent--whose political career was pretty much over anyway. Like, you know, Lieberman.

[PearliePoo2]

45. yeah

kinda like the hunt for his WAR CZAR. Nobody wants it.
('cept like you said the "ass-kissing traitor" Liar-man)
* is radioactive now

[jamesinca]

87. If it is a former congress critter then how about

Santorum or Frist? Conrad Burns maybe. Macaca man could do the job. Tom DeLay. Wait I got one Joe Lieberman, he would do it!!

[ecstatic]

76. Right. Tell that to Rice, Gates & Co. nt

[smoogatz]

84. Maybe you're right. Maybe they'd give him a free pass

to appoint whoever he wanted. But given the power that Cheney currently wields as VP, and given the history of VP mid-term appointments, I kind of don't think they're that dumb. He'll have to pick a compromise VP, if Cheney's impeached.

[ejbr]

38. With a 30% approval, whomever

Bush appoints will be anathema to registered voters. The new person would not be able to stray from Bush's previous pronouncements and would have a cloud of suspicion over him/her because of Cheney, Rove, Libby, Savarian, Abramoff, Ney, DeLay and so on. Although not every republican who has gotten in trouble is a Bush appointment, he has had some REALLY bad choices: Cheney, Rove, Meyers, heckuvajob Brownie, Rumsfeld, Chernoff, Bolton. Any contender could easily challenge Bush's judgment in picking anyone and get a significant boost from this alone.
:kick:

[socretes73]

63. Congress NEEDS to CONFIRM a VP

appointed by Pres... worth the risk!

[frogcycle]

70. needs confirmation, no?

[Martin Eden]

80. It would be easier to impeach Bush ...

... and get the necessary Republican votes if a Republican VP confirmed by Congress would replace the impeached president rather than Nancy Pelosi.

[PegDAC]

88. If I recall it correctly,

wouldn't the Senate have to confirm the choice?

[dchill]

119. Or, who would then have an inside track...

to really low approval ratings. That's my guess anyway.

[mmonk]

29. The media is going to have a hard time trying to ignore Dennis

when he does this. I can't wait to see their expressions.

[nam78_two]

31. K&R.nt

[smoogatz]

33. You know, I've not been a big fan of Kucinich.

Until now. Go, Dennis!

[mmonk]

34. Boy, if he does this, its going to put some interesting

pressures on the other presidential candidates and some of their groups and lobby interests.

[Annces]

36. Thank you Kucinich n/t

[Mrspeeker]

42. The only good one

and this is why

[madmunchie]

92. This is what leaders are made of

[berni_mccoy]

43. Bout. Damn. TIME.

[me b zola]

44. Dennis!

:woohoo:

[Senator]

46. Kucinich Should Make the Case on Torture Alone

Kucinich should introduce a single article over Geneva Convention violations. Cheney has publicly dismissed the horror that is waterboarding as "dunking."

The Hamdan ruling has already established the reality of Geneva violations. These acts are also federal crimes under US Code: Title 18,2441.

This would put the DC Dem "leadership" (and that craven quipping Dem aide in the article) on the spot to defend or oppose war crimes. The GOP Senators would be put on the same spot in a Senate trial.

It is the charge that would stick.

In fact, it is a "slam dunk."

--

[cqo_000]

47. Nail his feeble-hearted butt to the wall

[coalition_unwilling]

82. Link between Cheney and torture is a bit tenuous. I prefer a

single count of "fraud" against the U.S. for all the various sundry lies that helped get us into Iraq.

[Senator]

132. Not tenuous at all -- Addington drove the "consensus" for war crimes

The fact that Gonzalez and Yoo are most associated with torture by the Euphemedia is simply a result of their being too stupid to know NOT to write stuff down.

It was (cheney's) David Addington that did the real "nut cutting" that neutralized people like Alberto Mora, Matthew Waxman and (until recently) John Bellinger.

But far more importantly, the objective here is not to "prove" some legal/criminal case, nor is it to (as many would prefer) charge the "worst offense." Impeachment is a political process, not a legal or law enforcement mechanism. It's pupose is defensive -- to remove the threat of future and/or ongoing violations of the Constitution.

In short, the object is to "get it done." That's why the torture violations charge is the ticket. It's a cut and dried "for or against" option.

The other clearly impeachable offenses have no where near the simplicity, moral force, or urgency of stopping ongoing violation. They are far less compelling to the average citizen/politician and far more "arguable" on the basis of intent and/or "higher purpose."

--

[coalition_unwilling]

154. I had forgotten Addington's role as enabler to the VP (behind Libby).

I still believe that, since impeachment is a political process, a general charge of "fraud" would find far more resonance among the populace than a charge of "torture". But I definitely see your point and will give it some further thought.

[yy4me]

48. Yippy!!!!!

Hope springs eternal!!

[babylonsister]

49. Sure is nice to see a Dem doing the right thing! Rec'd. nt

[BattyDem]

50. Go Dennis!!!

:applause: :toast: :yourock: :patriot: :applause: :toast: :yourock: :patriot: :applause:

[Vidar]

52. Bravo Dennis!

[rodeodance]

53. "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic

......Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach the president, vice president and "all civil Officers of the United States" for "treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Sources tell the Sleuth that in light of the mass killings at Virginia Tech Monday, Kucinich's impeachment plans have been put on hold. There will be no action this week, they say.

Kucinich's office had no comment on the Congressman's "Dear Colleague" letter -- which apparently was drafted over the weekend, before the school massacre -- or on what the focus of articles of impeachment against Cheney would be.

But Kucinich shouldn't hold his breath on getting anywhere with his impeachment plan. "We'll see a Kucinich Administration before we'll see a Cheney impeachment," quipped one Democratic aide.

[Mister Ed]

139. It'd be fun to give him both. n/t

[cyclezealot]

140. look to know who the unnamed source is/

like to give him/her a piece of my mind.

[BuyingThyme]

54. Dennis for president!

(This week.)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

56. I want media wallpaper to resemble this...

[BuyingThyme]

57. That's fake.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

62. Nuh uh. I have seen it many times

in the windmills of my mind.

[jazzjunkysue]

66. Dick wasn't that thin in 3rd grade....lol! n/t.

[liberal renegade]

111. Damn he looks good!

At least in orange and chains he does...

[PreacherCasey]

58. Hot Damn!

Can't wait to see the media ignore this one! Go Dennis.

[CRH]

59. It will be interesting to see ...

If Pelosi and the others that must take action on this, will call for a voice vote to defeat this, where no individual accountability is recorded in congressional records, or history. The voice vote has become the method of choice when scoundrels want to dodge accountability for constitutional obligation.

Patriot Act II, the late night tack on to the Appropriations bill, is a good example of the unaccountable voice vote.

[MonkeyFunk]

61. I doubt it will get to the floor at all

it will be assigned to a committee where it will likely die.

[mmonk]

109. Can an impeachment inquiry be done by voice vote?

[Freddie Stubbs]

162. It won't make it to a vote

The bill will be sent to committee where no action will be taken.

[AikidoSoul]

60. May God bless and protect Dennis Kucinich K & R

O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8) O8)

[malaise]

64. Go Dennis

:yourock:

[jazzjunkysue]

67. Does * have any cronies left? I nominate John Kerry! Woo Hooo!

[jazzjunkysue]

68. Theories, people. What specific charges? Lying about the Niger uranium?

WMD's? Getting us into Iraq? Bad aim?

What does Dennis think he has on him, and what form does the evidence take?

Was it the Plame leak? Is it in connection with Libby?

[coalition_unwilling]

83. Fraud perpetrated against the U.S. -n/t

[mmonk]

141. All the evidence for impeachment has been laid out

by various constitutional scholars across the country. So you're kidding, right?

[mikelgb]

71. Kick

[HamdenRice]

72. I wonder whether Dennis knows some things we don't know?

I'm hoping that some foreign intelligence agency has given him some inside dope on "tumor of death" Cheney.

K&R

[AzDar]

73. Wowzer!

:woohoo:

[rateyes]

74. I've always said that Bush and Cheney deserve

a fair trial. Go, Dennis, Go!!

[wiggs]

75. Yeah, baby! It will be of MAJOR interest to see who says what about the Articles! nt

[valerief]

77. Badda bing! nt

[AnOhioan]

79. This is why I support Dennis....about time someone stepped up.

[datavg]

91. You...

...need to remember that every time Dennis Kucinich appears on television with his goofy grin and his nasally Cleveland accent and his goofball agenda, NE Ohio gets a black eye.

This is one of the reasons why the region continues to rot and cannot keep young, talented, skilled and educated individuals from taking jobs in sunbelt cities like Atlanta, Dallas, Orlando and even Los Angeles. I just got my college alumni directory in the mail and you wouldn't believe the number of people from NE Ohio who've moved out of there in the last ten years. It's incredible.

California is as blue as they come, but Feinstein and Boxer and Adam Schiff and Loretta Sanchez are head and shoulders above characters like Dennis the Menace. I have my disagreements with DiFi but at least I know she's not nuts. Even the local talk radio guys out here say she's a liberal with a brain.

I lived in Texas for almost ten years and when those people hear his name, they break out in laughter.

Dennis Kucinich isn't the problem. He's a symptom. He represents a group of people who lack education and lack modern skill sets and are mad at the world for daring to move ahead without them. I spent thirty years there. I know.

I've never seen so many people in one place who are obsessed with the past and afraid of the future in my entire life! There was a day not so long ago when characters like Sherrod Brown couldn't even get elected to school board, much less become a United States Senator. The last time I saw him, he was standing in the well of the Senate in a wrinkled suit with his hair uncombed, droning on about saving union jobs in Ohio. Even the Democrats laugh at him. Feinstein probably thinks he's some kind of caveman.

Where the fuck do you find these people?

Go ahead and waste your time with that bill to impeach Cheney, but keep in mind that it won't create one single job in Cleveland or keep one single college-educated young person from leaving the region.

NE Ohio doesn't need Dennis Kucinich or Sherrod Brown. It needs Ross Perot.

[PreacherCasey]

94. Goofball agenda, huh?

Universal Healthcare, ending this illegal and highly immoral war, repealing the PATRIOT Act, promoting peace and stability in the world, reconnecting to the international community, pulling out of NAFTA, and the WTO, ratifying Kyoto, and re-establishing SOME sense of fairness to the people's federally regulated airwaves. Doesn't sound too goofy to me.

Nice try with trying to put Cleveland's economic woes on the back of Dennis Kucinich and his "goofy grin and his nasally Cleveland accent". I notice you don't criticize any of his positions specifically. Why is that? I guess his goofy grin and accent suffice in discrediting him. Joke.

Dennis lacks modern skill sets, huh? The fucking guy came from NOTHING and rose to the ranks of US Congressman. Give me a break. He lacks education? I guess his B.A. and M.A. degrees are meaningless. Maybe if he went to Yale and Harvard he would qualify as educated. Remind me, where did Bush go to school? Oh, that's right. I guess the Ivy League doesn't guarantee shit after all.

You seem to like Feinstein. I recall that she recently step down from the Military Construction Appropriations Committee because of her husband's connection to war profiteering. That's cool though, RW radio personalities like her. I'm not impressed.

I support people with truly progressive views and the best interests of the people at heart.

[AnOhioan]

99. What a ridiculous post...

I agree, NE Ohio and Cleveland in particular are suffering. A huge part of the reason is 12 years of Republican rule in Columbus. (as well as 6+ years of the chimp.) Your remarks concerning Dennis and Sherrod Brown are just so much nonsense.

I am proud, as are a very healthy percentage of my fellow NE Ohioans, to have Dennis and Sherrod representing us in DC. You don't like that fact? Too damn bad.

It is a real shame that amongst all the great folks here at DU, we have to read snarky comments by posters with nothing better to do than crap all over a good thread.

On edit....you say you spent 30 years here...well...I have spent over 40 so I would guess I know better than you how people around here regard Dennis and Sherrod.

[datavg]

155. Okay, Fine...

...you can keep electing Dennis and Sherrod and Tubby and others of their ilk to positions of power.

No problem. It's your state.

But, when large corporate employers like Comerica in Michigan and OfficeMax in Cleveland and Newell Rubbermaid in Akron continue moving jobs out of the region, don't complain.

Hoover is closing in Canton, and that didn't have to happen...but it did.

You don't see the Dennis Kuciniches of the world representing Texas, do you? You don't see the Sherrod Browns of the world representing North Carolina and Georgia, do you?

Of course not.

Do you have any idea what's going to happen when the Chinese start dumping cars in this market five years from now, and you guys have the same old cast of characters in charge? Do you genuinely believe their leadership will be good enough to weather that storm? Fat chance. Bill Ford was talking about this earlier in the year. He said it keeps him awake at night.

Kucinich isn't the problem. He's a symptom. This has to do with the people who elect him to office. It's an older, mostly unskilled and uneducated blue collar demographic in an area that's been depressed for most of my lifetime. That goes not only for Kucinich's Lakewood district but also for much of NE Ohio. There are bright spots (Wayne and Medina county, where I was raised) but most of the rest is very bad. Someone told me ten percent of Summit county was on government assistance of some kind...and that was fifteen years ago.

But you won't listen. No one back there ever listens because it's always the same old crowd who gets to run things, and God forbid that you challenge anyone in authority especially if they grew up during the Great Depression. That's like going to Dallas and questioning the existence of Christ.

Ohio desperately needs billions upon billions of dollars for revitalizing not only its state university system but also for upgrading primary and secondary education...but it doesn't have the money. Strickland has the right idea but you can't ask legions of aged blue collar fixed-income retirees who couldn't afford college for themselves to pony up billions of dollars they don't have to create educational opportunities for other people's kids! It WON'T WORK and it will never happen!

I have a friend up there who was one of my profs in college, and he can't wait to take his retirement and move his family to Florida. He's scared to death of what's happening to Cleveland.

Franklin and Delaware counties are in a better situation because they have more positive demographics but NE Ohio is an economic sinkhole. There's a political vacuum there and that's what attracts people like Kucinich and Tim Ryan and Tubby and Sherrod Brown. Even Regula is part of the problem. He should have been retired and on a plane to Florida twenty years ago, but there are simply too many of those dried up old folks with their Great Depression mentality holding the region back. On and on it goes. It never changes. It's like a chronic disease.

I wouldn't run Dennis Kucinich or Sherrod Brown for school board in either of the Dallas suburbs I've lived in or in the southern California suburb where we presently reside. They wouldn't have a prayer.

Why would you run someone for office who doesn't even have the fucking sense to comb his hair or buy a decent suit before going in front of the cameras? What a dork!

Can someone PLEASE take Sherrod Brown over to Men's Wearhouse with a credit card? Pick out a nice dark pin-striped one for him, like Seigenthaler wears on MSNBC. Better yet, send Matt Lauer with him. THAT guy can dress.

[mmonk]

110. In other words,

politics as usual, screw the constitution, our only protection from tyranny.

[ProudDad]

123. I'm from DiFi country

and she's no f*ckin' "liberal", with a brain or without. We've been suffering under her dino-ness since a great Liberal Mayor Moscone was murdered by a right-wing shit named Dan White which act installed her lame ass as Mayor of San Francisco. She then renewed that sale of the city to her corporate friends whom she still represents well in the Senate.

"Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who was the best friend of real estate developers and landlords when she was mayor of San Francisco, has developed a high national profile in the Senate. But her record hasn't improved a bit: She's still pro-big business, and now she's pro-big military and pro-globalization. And she supports almost every repressive crime bill that comes before her. Her record on defense and foreign policy includes voting for the $1.7 billion drug war military aid package to Columbia, supporting a national missile defense system, backing unfair trade laws like "NAFTA for Africa," and supporting China's admission to the World Trade Organization. She also voted to eliminate the estate tax, which would benefit wealthy Americans like Feinstein and her financier husband, Richard Blum, who are estimated to be worth more than $50 million (making her the fifth richest member of Congress). She voted for "Three Strikes" mandatory sentencing and strongly supports the death penalty."



If you don't like Kucinich, why don't you work to prevent his re-election??? Obviously the majority of voters in his district don't agree with your nasty little opinions about Rep. Dennis.



By the by, Perot is a capitalist fuck who happened to be right about ONE THING, NAFTA, and was republican enough to help Clinton by robbing poppy bush of his 2nd term.

You won't make many friends on this board holding him out as an example to be emulated or admired.

[datavg]

156. Feinstein...

...understands her constituency. That's why she keeps getting reelected. She's civilized and refined, with a fair dose of street smarts. I think that's her secret.

Kucinich thinks he can "trick" us into believing we can all live like people in the Bay Area live, without having the Bay Area's money or tolerance for taxation. That's why I see Kucinich bumper stickers all over Santa Barbara when I drive up there. People who live in a bubble like Kucinich because he lives in a bubble, too. He's a delusionary candidate for delusional people.

We can argue all day about this, but no matter...I'm still right. I've been making this argument in forums like this one for over twenty years and I've always held the same views and I've usually been right. I said Mondale was committing suicide with his promise to raise taxes, and I was right. I said Dukakis was too foreign looking to be President, and I was right. I said Gore was fake and the gun lobby would take him out, and I was right. If Gore had won the border states plus New Hampshire, he would be President today because he wouldn't have needed Florida. That's a FACT.

I was even right on Clinton. I said Clinton's upbringing would inspire support in the South, winning him the presidency...and I was right. Look at the Electoral maps from 1992 and 1996...but please tell me how either Hillary or Obama can possibly win Florida in 2008. I don't think either one of them can. Over one thousand people per day move to Florida, primarily from upper middle class suburbs in the northeast and the Rust Belt. Those people don't vote Democratic for the most part and if they're adding more red voters to an already red state...let's just the say the outcome of the election is preordained. Al Gore found that out the hard way and Florida wasn't even close for Kerry. It won't be close next time, either.

We don't need Hillary or Obama. We need Sam Nunn, but he's nowhere to be found.

[PreacherCasey]

157. I notice you still have absolutely nothing to say about Kucinich's policies. n/t

[ProudDad]

158. Ah

but datavg is always right.

Can't argue with that...

I guess gwb's god speaks to him/her too...

[Pacifist Patriot]

143. That's some great satire. Thanks!

[unpossibles]

151. Ross Perot? Give me a fucking break

although I will say the country needs another Ross Perot to run to drain away some of the Right's votes.

[David Zephyr]

81. Saluting an American hero! Dennis stands up to the bully! Give him the credit!

DENNIS KUCINICH! :toast:

[pnwmom]

95. He won't do us any favors if this goes through and then Bush

is found not guilty in the Senate. Which is what would happen, since we don't have a bunch of Repubs ready to convict.

[unlawflcombatnt]

85. Kick

Kick & Recommend

[porphyrian]

86. The Man. - n/t

[earth mom]

89. I'm in shock. After months...No, YEARS of waiting...can this finally be happening?!

:wow:

:woohoo:

[Sherman A1]

90. YES!

[The Witch]

93. Does he have something new on him??

From the way he teases the confidential copy, it sounds like he has something.

This oughta be good.

[pnwmom]

96. If he really wanted to do something useful, and make real progress,

(as opposed to making a grand stand that will go down to defeat in the Senate, where a 2/3 majority is required) he should introduce articles impeaching Gonzales.

That's where to start. The weakest link.

[AnOhioan]

98. He is doing something useful...unlike some people here...

who revel in making snarky remarks.

[pnwmom]

114. And what is snarky about that? IMO, starting impeachment against Cheney

now is not being helpful. Putting Bush or Cheney in a position where they can claim vindication (with a not guilty vote in the Senate) won't help the country at all.

[lonestarnot]

149. ack blah blah blah!

[c2farr]

97. Did anyone see the Warning Signs

that Dick Cheney and George W Bush would team up to be cool genocidal maniacs?

Freud would have a field day taking a peak under the hood of these two mass murders.

[Sean Shealy]

100. Cheney First, Chimpy Later

Cheney must be removed first, yes; Dennis is wise.

Hi all, by the way. My first post here.

[AnOhioan]

102. Welcome to DU

[merh]

106. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[chknltl]

115. Welcome To DU Sean Shealy

:toast: to your first post...it's a post toast!

[connecticut yankee]

150. Welcome to DU

Looking forward to hearing from you often.

Edit: Typo -- I should proofread before posting.

[unpossibles]

152. welcome to DU!

and I agree, Cheney needs to go.

[southerncrone]

101. I love you, Dennis!

"You're our only hope, Dennis 1 Kucinich!" :P

:loveya: :yourock: :woohoo: :applause: :patriot: :headbang: :dem: :thumbsup: :wow: :bounce: :party: :)

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

will he do this in-between faux news appearances?

why was he kissing hannity's ass on the radio yesterday?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

103. will he do this in-between faux news appearances

why was he kissing hannity's ass on the radio yesterday?

[whistle]

104. Great!

[Jcrowley]

105. Kicking that

Rec'

[bdamomma]

107. it is way past time to nail these SOB's

go dennis!!

[jeff uppy]

108. Wild speculation

Maybe Kucinich has reliable word that Patrick Fitzgerald has some evidence he'd be willing to produce for congress - if only he were just subpoenaed to do so. ??

[Big Pappa]

112. I give Dennis

credit, he has never been afraid to tell it like it is without use of a focus group like so many others do. Go Dennis.

[Divine Discontent]

113. K&Highly R

Discuss with all you know! Love this... Dennis is stepping up on my list... he's now right behind Edwards for my choice for President (unless Gore runs)

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff

[chknltl]

116. Please Dennis, Puh-lease do this.

You have nothing to lose and much to gain here...as do we all :patriot:

[mzmolly]

117. He must be reading H20Man and Mr. Dean?

:toast:

Go Dennis!

[magellan]

120. Go, DK!!

This is the first post I read here today and what an upper it was. How far it gets doesn't matter as much as the attempt and that it reflects the public will. Those in Congress who ignore it do so at their own peril. The people are angry!!

:applause:

[Sirveri]

121. Someone actually has balls in the democratic party. Wow.

[lonestarnot]

122. Holy shit! Amen and pass the ammunition! YEEEEEEEEEES!

DENIS YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYAH! :loveya: woooooot! :bounce: :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce: :woohoo: Only man in the race with balls! :loveya:

[puebloknot]

124. Really now, can Bush survive a Cheney impeachment?

Dennis Kucinich is very wise to go after the *real* head of this immoral, illegal cabal that has taken over our country. In the process of shining light on the actions of Cheney through the last six years (and prior), it seems very likely that Bush might just decide that resignation is preferable to having to go through his own impeachment process.

Dennis Kucinich is not someone who would pull a grandstanding stunt just to bring attention to his presidential campaign. To do so would probably hurt him more than help him.

No. The man is considering the future of this country, and the fate of our troops who have been deployed to fight an illegal and unwinnable war. And he is *very much* tuned in to the will of the people. Polls show that a majority of Americans favor impeachment, and many see the wisdom of going after Cheney first. When you remove the man who pulls Bush's strings, you disable the puppet.

As Dems, surely we must support an effort to call into account those who have committed crimes against humanity and against our constitution, rather than playing convenient political games with an eye to capturing the presidency in 2008. Dennis Kucinich and those of us who support him are concerned about what is happening to America *now*! We are concerned about how many more must die pointlessly in the Middle East, while business as usual goes on in Washington, D.C.

We waited, after November, 2006, for our newly-elected leaders to show some courage, to use the power of the purse and subpoena power to restore dignity and integrity to our country before the eyes of the world. We knew that we would not see instant gratification, but we have waited long enough. The time for justice is now!

[annm4peace]

125. In 10 Days, 33 Troops in Iraq have been killed

News is full of those killed in VA. Same number 33.

How many students in Iraq schools and colleges killed in the last 4 years ??.

It is past time for Impeachment. I will be calling my Rep to ask him to support Kucinich in articles of Impeacement for Cheney then Bush.

[puebloknot]

129. Yes, and I will be calling my Rep.

America needs to grow up and realize that the lives of people who are a little different Over There are just as precious as those we have just lost in Virginia -- as are the lives of young people who hoped to attend college after their service in Iraq, or at least to go on with their lives.

Impeachment is the moral, intelligent thing to do, and perhaps our last hope to save the country. It is not guaranteed to lead to conviction in the Senate, but it is a way for America to say that we value the rule of law.

I'm aware that Dennis Kucinich has been giving consideration to the idea of impeachment for a long time, and for a long time did not embrace the idea. I cannot say what has been the tipping point which has informed his decision, but given the man's record through time, I have to believe that he is not taking this step lightly -- and certainly not for personal or political aggrandizement.

[StarryNite]

126. Yo Dennis!

You're da man!

[thekuch]

127. Don't walk.......run and see this video.....President Kucinich

President Kucinich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9REGbr0nfI

[StarryNite]

130. Thanks for the link.

Great video.

[orleans]

131. thank you dennis! n/t

[peacetheonlyway]

133. kucinich rocks

now let's see how many brave House of Rep. souls will join him.

one spark can set a whole forest aflame!!

[The Sushi Bandit]

134. go Dennis Go!!!!

[Decruiter]

135. I applaud Dennis and I am proud to have supported him always.

He does speak truth to power. He is honest and passionate about what the US is supposed to be.

Could we dream just enough to make him President, I like to believe so.

[Cell Whitman]

136. get a load of this photoshop

that was posted at http://gahzette.blogspot.com on the 9th...must'a known something. :7

[B Calm]

138. I'll believe it when it happens.... FINGERS CROSSED

[electron_blue]

145. I agree. I've been jaded by so many threads about politician X who plans to impeach Cheney (or Bush)

[geiger]

142. beam me up

[mmonk]

144. What he is doing takes real courage.

I believe some ruthless forces are connected to the administration. He also has my complete support. In fact, its worthy of a donation to his campaign.

[LWolf]

146. Good.

He stands head and shoulders above the rest of the pack where it matters.

I hope Democratic voters realize this in '08.

[Ron Green]

147. Kick

that bastard out of there.

:kick:

[porphyrian]

148. Is this news yet, or does it need to have a gun in it? - n/t

[ProgressiveAmPatriot]

160. And so it begins! n/t

[Swamp Rat]

161. Geaux Dennis!!!

:kick: