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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:50 AM
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Orly Tainz Smackdown: Judge now fines her $20,000. Will Orly try for more?
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 10:51 AM by LynneSin
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/10/13/judge-lands-hard-on-orly-taitz-esq-itll-cost-her-20000/?cxntfid=blogs_jay_bookman_blog

Judge Land’s hard on Orly Taitz, Esq. It’ll cost her $20,000
11:25 am October 13, 2009, by Jay


Orly Taitz
U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land, in Columbus, has come down hard on birther attorney Orly Taitz, fining her $20,000 for willfully abusing her right to practice law. I suspect Taitz won’t have that right much longer. (h/t Washington Independent)

“The Court finds that counsel’s conduct was willful and not merely negligent. It demonstrates bad faith on her part. As an attorney, she is deemed to have known better. She owed a duty to follow the rules and to respect the Court. Counsel’s pattern of conduct conclusively establishes that she did not mistakenly violate a provision of law. She knowingly violated Rule 11. Her response to the Court’s show cause order is breathtaking in its arrogance and borders on delusional.”

My only quibble with the good judge is his use of the phrase “borders on delusional.” This is the full Monty of delusion, and I suppose the poor, deluded fools who support this woman will rush to defray her fine.

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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:51 AM
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1. Thank you sir, may I have another? nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:52 AM
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2. knowing this nitwit - she'll go right back in there and get doubled for $40k
I see this idiot losing her law license by end of year.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:02 AM
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8. Losing her license and/or in jail for contempt.
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 11:03 AM by WePurrsevere
Personally I think the judge should consider giving the poor woman a very long vacation at Happy Juice Psych Resort. :eyes:
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:53 AM
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3. Is there such thing as an online correspondents disbarment? nt
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:56 AM
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4. Sweet.
Go, Orly Go!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:00 AM
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6. Yeah, you gonna take that, Orly?
Time to turn the crazee up to full blast!
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:08 AM
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13. ...
:thumbsup:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:59 AM
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5. Im fine with a fine, but she needs to be institutionalized
She's bat shit crazy, and a danger to those around her.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:03 AM
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9. I'd be happy if they take that mail-order law degree away from her
that would be a good start right there. This is a dangerous woman who has little knowledge of the law other than what she learned from her mail order classes. If the birthers want their movement to be taken seriously they should drop this idiot like bad 2 day old egg salad that has been sitting out in the sun for 2 days.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:00 AM
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7. BTW, Orly isn't giving up - she's going back again
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/birther_orly_taitz_responds_to_judges_20k_fine_sho.php

Reached on her cell phone by TPMmuckraker and informed of the $20,000 fine imposed on her by a federal judge this morning, Birther attorney Orly Taitz responded, first, with laughter.

"So he didn't recuse himself?" Taitz asked, after letting out an extended, nervous-sounding chuckle.

Still defiant after months of legal wrangling and, by our count, three written denunciations by federal district court Judge Clay Land, Taitz said she had absolutely no plans to pay the $20,000 fine.

"Are you kidding? Of course not," she said, asked whether she planned to send a check. "This is a form of intimidation."

Instead, she plans to file yet another written response (though it's unclear whether the court will even accept one).

"I'll go to the circuit court of appeals. I'll take this as high as I have to go," Taitz said.

_________________________________________

BTW, not sure how the judge is in Obama's pocket or why he needs to recuse himself. He was appointed by George W. Bush back in 2001.

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Clay_Land
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:13 AM
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15. She seems to hate the judicial system as much as she hates Obama.
She has never been OUT of contempt of court.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:26 AM
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18. This just keeps getting weirder.
She's acting like a little kid who will do anything for attention. It's pathetic. Give it up, Orly, & go back to the obscurity you so richly deserve.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:26 AM
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19. If she doesn't pay, then she's in contempt of court & can be jailed?
What's she getting out of all this? What's her pay off? Why risk fines and jail time and disbarment?

Is she acting alone, or is there a clandestine group effort?

Wonder if there's someone(s) out there quietly egging her on - using her unstable personality to play these crazy games.



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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 03:36 PM
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24. yes, and she very likely will be
I've known attorneys that have been jailed for contempt for MUCH MUCH MUCH less than this. I'm actually surprised she hasn't been escorted to the jail already.

Actually, I have had the feeling for awhile that Orly is TRYING to get the court - any court - to throw her in jail.

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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:34 PM
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29. Yep!!
She thinks if she gets sanctioned or jailed, then she can appeal and demand "discovery" of all of Obama's records, everywhere.

She doesn't seem to understand discovery doesn't work that way.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:09 AM
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34. I think it has more to do with her wanting to play the martyr
I also think that she believes something like that would really open the purses of her followers, too.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:03 AM
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31. Exactly on everything you said. The judge is playing three moves ahead of her, though;
he already knows her game.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:03 AM
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10. "...I'll take 'Pissing off the Judge for $100,000 next, Monte...'"
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:08 AM
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12. bwahahahahaa
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:06 AM
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11. How on earth are there people who allow this woman to come within ten feet of them with a dental
drill?

Aren't they afraid? :scared:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:15 AM
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16. Uh, that was a thought I didn't need. If she weilds a drill the way she weilds a pleading...
:scared:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:09 AM
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14. Orly; the judicial joke that never gets old. nt
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:25 AM
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17. The judge ought to increase the fine by a thou each day she doesn't pay
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 11:26 AM by rocktivity
A judge once "cured" an incarerated witness of profanity-laced testimony by threatening that each curse would add ten days to his sentence!


rocktivity
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:36 AM
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20. Tort reform?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:53 AM
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21. kick
:kick:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 03:13 PM
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22. "Her response to the Court’s show cause order is breathtaking in its arrogance"
I'm not surprised. He's really showing restraint. He's letting her have enough rope to hang herself.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:23 PM
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26. I agree with you in all but one word of that statement
What she is doing is not arrogance. A lawyer with any small amount of knowledge would know that this battle isn't worth it anymore and to pull out while they still have the ability to practice law. There will be other opportunities to bring her birther cause to court but clearly this Judge, one I might mention that was appointed by George W. Bush himself, isn't interested in your bullshit. Her response is nothing more than 'breathtaking in it's IGNORANCE" - ignorance of how the law works. But what do you expect from a woman who got her law degree from a mail-order college that teaches you absolutely nothing except how to pass the California Bar.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:28 PM
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27. Well, I pulled the quote from the order.
I agree. Any lawyer with any sense would have apologized and made amends after the judge issued his Show Cause Order.

I've been practicing in federal court over 30 years, and I've NEVER seen any lawyer behave the way she has. There is nothing in America like a federal court room. Forget all the other judges in state courts. A sitting federal judge is a very powerful person, and everyone in the courtroom kisses the judge's ass like it was made of gold. You don't go to war with one unless you know you have a really good appellate point and you can support it on appeal with a competent record.

She's a train wreck, soon to be disbarred.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 07:11 PM
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30. I'm also guessing you do not have a mail-order law degree
California really needs to fix the loop-hole for these types of colleges. Being able to pass a bar exam doesn't make you capable of being a lawyer. Hell I could probably study 3 years to take my medical boards licenses but does that mean I should be qualified to practice medicine?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:05 AM
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32. No, and I think this may end California's allowing them.
She's wholly unqualified.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 03:25 PM
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23. Time to double down, Orly!
:rofl:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 03:37 PM
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25. Don’t Taitz me, bro
I’ve mostly grown weary of birtherism, but there are some real gems in some of the recent court filings.

On page 27, explaining why it’s good that Congress, not the courts, are in charge of removing presidents from office:



“Or perhaps an eccentric citizen has become convinced that the President is an alien from Mars, and the courts should order DNA testing to enforce the Constitution <7> ...”

“<7> The Court does not make this observation simply as a rhetorical device for emphasis; the Court has actually received correspondence assailing its previous order in which the sender, who, incidentally, challenged the undersigned to a “round of fisticuffs on the Courthouse Square,” asserted that the President is not human.”



http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=28171#comments
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:30 PM
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28. Either that, or she's going to create about 20 sockpuppet accounts & start posting gibberish at DU.
Well, it could happen. :shrug:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:06 AM
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33. Tonight on the Joy Behar Show she called the judge "delusional and corrupt."
She just can't shut the fuck up.
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:11 AM
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35. Wow, just wow.
You owe a judge 20 large and you're stupid enough to call him "delusional and corrupt"? I wonder what the judge thinks of that!

"Next time I see that &*!$%, I'm sending her straight to jail...." is probably the thinking. :D
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:20 AM
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36. I think he'll issue another Show Cause Order for this.
Even though it was not in court, it was in the public, on television, and will be covered by news outlets tomorrow. It's contempt of court to say that about the judge in whose court you are appearing. I think she may get a contempt charge out this, if the judge is inclined to do so.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:12 AM
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40. Delusional fits Orly, actually.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:48 AM
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37. Fulton County Daily Report got a quote from Orly:
Federal Judge Sanctions 'Birther' Lawyer for 'Frivolous' Suit
Ga. judge issues $20,000 penalty to lawyer who filed suit on behalf of Army captain trying to avoid deployment
R. Robin McDonald
Fulton County Daily Report
October 14, 2009

... "All I can say is that this order is issued with a goal to intimidate me, harass me and retaliate against me for bringing a legitimate action on behalf of my client," she said. "It's an absolute outrage," she continued. "That is an order that was written by a judge who completely misrepresented the facts of the case, who completely distorted the case" ...

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202434530466&src=EMC-Email&et=editorial&bu=Law.com&pt=LAWCOM%20Newswire&cn=NW_20091014&kw=Federal%20Judge%20Sanctions%20%27Birther%27%20Lawyer%20for%20%27Frivolous%27%20Suit
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:08 AM
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38. Orly quote from LA Indy:
Federal judge sanctions O.C. attorney leading Obama 'birther' movement
By WIRE SERVICES
Story Published: Oct 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM PDT
Story Updated: Oct 14, 2009 at 12:49 AM PDT

... "This is obviously a biased judge who completely distorted each and every word in the proceedings," Taitz said. "He is clearly working as a puppet for the Obama regime" ...

http://www.laindependent.com/news/regional/64158162.html
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:15 AM
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41. I would SO pay for a seat at the disbarment hearings. nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:26 AM
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42. I guess George W. Bush himself must be part of the conspiracy too....
he's the one that appointed the judge to the bench.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:10 AM
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39. Oily should spin the wheel
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:33 AM
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43. Auntie Entity said it best
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