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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:01 AM Original message |
Fuck the beach dwellers |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. If her house is paid off, she can take out a loan and buy a new house, Inland. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. exactly |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. Excellent point. |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. I hate to get all biblical |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
52. And that book also talks about paying for the consequences |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
68. How about this gem: "As you reap, yay, also you shall sow..." |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. Same with mudslide, wildfires, earthquakes, and flooding areas. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. But ultimately if we're going to include all those predictable risks |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I agree. But should one group be singled out of all the rest of predictable |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. No, sorry I didn't make that clear. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. We are |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. People |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Right, but I'm sure you heard the same things I did |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. they do have those regions |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. When you talk about earthquakes you're talkin' 20% of thepopulation |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
70. Nah, not all of those places fit the same catgory. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Wrong, some places are prone to these over and over and over. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Yes, SOME places are, but you implied that ALL places like that should just be fucked... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. No, I said that you can't just single out beach properties. There are other |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. No. Those kinds of fires can not happen everywhere. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
80. I think earthquakes may be a little different |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. Her house is gone, but she owns the land (fee-simple) free and clear? |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. she wants us |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Well then pity her. Want in one hand |
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Chemisse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 06:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
49. She wants a home with no mortgage! |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
10. They do it for the same reason as the bailouts |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
13. If the entire $80,000 had to go to the mortgage company then she did not |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
16. I believe your anger at the beach dweller may well be misplaced. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. nope |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:45 AM Original message |
You couldn't get insurance if you built on a volcano. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
20. I'm in total agreement |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I do understand your position. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I lived in Texas City and |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Like I said, they have handled the health care reform issue badly |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I wonder |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. If you had proof that you lost your roof, you had proof that the wind |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. I remember your story from when this was happening. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. LOL - I know what you mean - I don't know of any calamity proof |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Well I imagine that you can't pay much for earthquake insurance in LA. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
53. +1 : from a former resident |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. There has been controversy here in NY as well about rebuilding houses in known |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. I see footage |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
89. Between banks and insurance companies.....we are all victims |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
23. Is her race an important part of your story? |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. yup it is |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 04:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
48. I disagree. The issue is privilege, not race -- and they don't always coincide. n/t |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
59. Her race makes it ok.... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. +1 n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
24. Give her a fema trailer. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. those are |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. would you stop that. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I'm sorry for your |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. thank you |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I went through |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I've been through more than I can remember. |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. I live in the Keys |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Yeah one with a good dose of formaldehyde |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
34. Give the beach 'access' back to the people... the beach is ours anyway |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. back in the 70s |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
40. Let's not insure anyone living in Tornado Alley.Or New Orleans.Or the flood plains of the Ohio River |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. She got her pay off |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
65. It really depends on her policy whether or not she's entitled |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Her policy said she was entitled to 80 grand. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 04:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. gimmie a sec |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. She was insured. The insurance paid. She paid the mortgage |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. It's about risk |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #40 |
56. I hate when people bring up tornado alley and try to compare it |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Agreed. I wonder how many of these people actually know what a tornado is like. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Yep. My house on the plains of Nebraska has stood for 135 years-- |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
42. What difference does her race make? n/t |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 04:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Visit |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
74. You are falling victim to what is commonly referred to as "racial profiling". |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
55. Your post is bullshit. She's not well off, Soc. Sec. her only income. Her house was 1300 sq ft. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. But she's white |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
86. now |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
60. Have you ever been to the ocean in a populated area? |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
85. the poor |
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FloriTexan (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
63. Simple solution for anyone wanting a beach house.... |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
64. But she was "free to choose" where she lived, and free to endure the consequences! |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
66. Federal flood insurance is hideously abused |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
67. She should rebuild in a below sea level hole....New Orleans. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
72. So many people with 2 homes... |
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MidwestRick (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
77. NOLA |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. What an asinine thing to say. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Excuse me? |
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MidwestRick (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Live in a flood plain |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Live next to a Great Lake or the Illinois and Mississippi Rivers |
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MidwestRick (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Agreed. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-12-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
81. We have the same problem here on the coast of North Carolina. Those barrier islands are |
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