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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:06 PM
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Is the word application really to long to say? RE: Iphone advertisement
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 10:07 PM by RB TexLa
It was as if the words applications and application are too long to pronounce. I understand when children shorten words to make it easier for them to communicate but these advertisements are by adults and I assume targeting adults.
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:07 PM
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1. LOL
Kick and rec
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:11 PM
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2. Did you watch Bill Maher last week?
He was ranting about the shortening of the English language. Or was it Family Guy. Or The Simpsons. Don't recall.

Not a very original complaint in any event.

Does it bother you when people say tv instead of television too?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:14 PM
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5. No, I did not watch Bill Maher
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:13 PM
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3. "App" has been an abbreviation for application for years
this is just the first time it's been used in an advertisement

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:15 PM
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6. We geeks have known that for decades
I know
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:28 AM
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19. I'm friends with several geeks at Apple that integrate these "Apps"
and they find "Apps" annoying.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:13 PM
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4. Yep, it is.
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 10:14 PM by DireStrike
In conversational english, shorter > longer.

The commercial isn't conversation, but they're going for that feel.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:18 PM
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7. There's an app for that.
It abbreviates everything you text just in case you accidentally lapse and type in a long version. :D
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:25 PM
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8. It's just a little more geek-speak entering the lexicon
Think of it as an expansion of the language, as both words are used and will continue to be. The IT (information technology) field is full of these things, B2B, ROI, TCO, RC... at least they don't use an alphabet soup like the military, yet. In the ad they're probably trying to make it roll off the tongue more fluidly, so you will repeat it to your friends - cadence is important also. :)
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:05 PM
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9. They are Typically Referred to as "Apps"
and calling them "applications" would be confusing and sound out of touch.

Shortening is great. Too many businesses try to cram way to many syllables into their product vocabulary.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:43 PM
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10. Hmm. To unrec or not to unrec?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:24 AM
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17. Be civilized and say recommend or un-recommend, knave! paren no text close paren
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:27 AM
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18. O.K.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:47 PM
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28. +1. Snarky but +1.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:01 PM
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34. That is the question... I admit, I chuckled at the OP but am
still tempted to unrec for some reason. But then again I did chuckle. So I guess I just won't weigh in at all with a vote.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:43 PM
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41. OP?
What this OP you speak of?
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:57 PM
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45. The op about the app.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:52 PM
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11. You would hate my job
There's a secret language of acronyms. I have a 155 page decoder book.
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Rude Dog Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:10 AM
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12. "App" for "application" has been part of the parlance for years.
Or have you never heard of a "killer app"?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:14 AM
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14. I try to speak properly.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:47 PM
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29. Bully for you. nt
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:50 PM
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30. Of course you say things like...
Television vs TV
Automatic Teller Machine vs ATM
Internet Browser vs Browser
Personal Identification Number vs PIN
Automobile vs Car
etc...
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:56 PM
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31. I try to speak properly. I do fail at times in life.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:41 PM
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39. I don't drink with you...
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:42 PM
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40. Don't worry, that will never be a concern.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:12 AM
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13. "There's an app for that" is much catchier than "There is an application available to process that
request"
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:21 AM
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15. I love this! I just said the same thing to my 19 year old daughter two nights ago.
We are devolving to baby talk.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:57 PM
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32. It's been around for longer than your daughter has been alive.
No, really. It has, and it's just fine.. We also abbreviate a whole hell of a lot of other things, and again, have done for those things for longer than your daughter has been alive:

VCR
Phone
TV
Fridge
RPG (role-playing game)

Just off the top of my head. Abbreviations are not "baby-talk".

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 12:23 AM
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16. Imminent death of the English language predicted! (nt)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:23 AM
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20. Yah, and they should always say advertisement, too,
instead of "ad." It should be "newspaper," too, instead of "paper."


Television commercials have never been about perfect English. They never will be.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:26 AM
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21. When people type "just sayin'", replacing the "g" with an apostrophe
does this save keystrokes?

Or do they dislike the letter "g"
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:46 PM
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27. It's an accurate reflection of the way that phrase is normally spoken. nt
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:40 PM
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38. So it's speakers AND typists who don't like the letter 'g'. nt
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:40 AM
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22. Apple ads are symphonies of marketing tricks
aimed at those who think they are above marketing tricks. The word in question is just another method to engender furious brand loyalty in people who find brand loyalty to be a bad thing in most cases. It works like magic.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:33 PM
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35. Apple did not coin the term "app." (nt)
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:46 AM
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23. Is the word "Regarding" really too long to type?
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 08:46 AM by MilesColtrane
Stop with the baby talk.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:26 PM
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24. Very true, I should watch that. I do try to speak properly.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:38 PM
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25. Actually "re" is a word in and of itself.
but the grammar is incorrect. It should read: Is the word application really to long to say re iPhone advertisement?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:36 PM
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36. OK, I should have said, "Stop with the dead languages."
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:03 PM
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55. Condemnant quod non intellegunt.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:40 PM
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56. Tempus abire tibi est
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:45 PM
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26. "App" has really become its own word now.
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 06:11 PM by Codeine
"Application" has many meanings, while the word "app" is very specific in it's meaning.

Language evolves and changes constantly; complaining about the normal course of change is silly and smacks of being the old man shouting "get off my lawn, you damned hippy kids!"
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:01 PM
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33. Exactly. Too many people don't realize that English is a living language
and, moreover, incorporates new ideas and new words and bases of words almost constantly. Given the rapid pace of today's technological development, especially with regard to global communications, we should expect to see more of this sort of thing going on more often as technology progresses.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:37 PM
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37. Language prescriptivists always see change as degradation
They don't understand a neologism or a new turn of phrase or the fact that nobody who's halfway intelligent gives half a damn about the no-splitting-infinitives rule or the fact that we no longer pronounce y as th, so they run around screaming that nobody can communicate anymore and we're all doomed and it's a Republican plot or whatever.

The idea of living languages terrifies these guys; generally speaking they want English to be as dead as Latin. Or Akkadian.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:44 PM
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42. It makes it cool!
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 06:50 PM by JNelson6563
I've known people who try to shorten everything. I think it makes them look like assholes trying to look smart.

Julie
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:46 PM
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43. I choose not to share a beverage with you...
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 06:47 PM by SidDithers
Edit: and if you're going to complain about the use of language, at least get your grammar correct.

Sid
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:50 PM
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44. As I told the other poster mentioning that, you never have to worry about that being a problem.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:11 PM
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46. Is the word "too" really too long to spell? nt
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 07:11 PM by Codeine
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:17 PM
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47. +1...
I love it when those who complain about language can't even get their own damn post correct :)

Sid
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:28 PM
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48. I did miss that. I wasn't trying to shorten the word, I made a mistake.
In the television commercial they meant to shorten the words.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:43 PM
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49. Don't you mean "I was not trying to shorten the word...?"
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:46 PM
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50. I wasn't, it was a mistake. Sorry.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:48 PM
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51. Don't you mean "I was not, it was a mistake?"
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:55 PM
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52. lol
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:57 PM
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53. Oh, I see. It's an opportunity to run your smartass mouth.
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 08:58 PM by RB TexLa

Maybe someone will read it and "five high" you.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:59 PM
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54. Wrong.
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 09:00 PM by HiFructosePronSyrup
It should have been "I was not; this was a mistake."

You fail the test.

Also: "It is an opportunity to run your smartass mouth.
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