Excellent Moyer's Journal on Health Care Lobbyists (Video)

[Ruby the Liberal]

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10092009/watch2.html

Also WELL worth watching is his roundtable with Marcy Kaptur and Simon Johnson. To the left on that link, also posted for discussion here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6746687

[orpupilofnature57]

1. Thanks

[Dover]

2. Excellent program but not terribly hopeful due to the entrenched revolving door

between the private sector and government. So if you think your representatives represent YOU
think again. This is why Obama, even with a majority in Congress, will get little more done than
Bush for the PEOPLE. That should be a glaring reality check all Dem supporters (and Republicans alike) should make note of.
NOTHING can get done on our behalf with such a system so stop beating your head against the same wall.
I think it will take a grassroots movement and revolution to dislodge the corruption at this point.

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. I have been saying for eons that until we reverse

so called "Corporate personhood" and make SERIOUS election reform, the rest is all moot.

It is all rooted in that evil where our congress people pretend to "represent" us while focusing on the next election coffer.

[Dover]

4. Agreed. But in this corrupt failed system of government there seem to be no mechanisms

left to use short of revolution. But revolution has to be guided by more than anger if a productive transition is to happen. That rarely if ever happens though, so you get kind of a phenomenon like what happened in Russia when Yeltsin emerged - someone takes full advantage of the anger and impulse toward revolution and puts themselves in power...without any real change to the system. So the People need to become participants in the building of a form of governance that
is truly a reflection of their needs, vision of the future, etc.
Or perhaps the system will collapse under the weight of its own excrement.

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. Collapse would be messy, but may be what it takes.

:(