Freepville just pulled/deleted a "call to arms" thread, but not before I copied it--

[Mrs. Overall]

(based on that awful Newsmax article)


Freep thread:

Full Text Of Newsmax Column Suggesting Military Coup Against Obama (Former WH Speechwriter)
TPM ^ | 10-08-09 | John L. Perry
Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:32:46 AM by cyst
Or do they soldier on, hoping the 2010 congressional elections will reverse the situation? Do they dare gamble the national survival on such political whims?
Anyone who imagines that those thoughts are not weighing heavily on the intellect and conscience of America's military leadership is lost in a fool's fog.
Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a "family intervention," with some form of limited, shared responsibility?
Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial
(Excerpt) Read more at talkingpointsmemo.com ...


I agree with everything except the word "bloodless". That's just not realistic. USA! USA! USA!
1 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:32:46 AM by cyst
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This is the guy that had worked for the Johnson and Carter administrations as I understand it.
Typical solution by someone who has spent a lot of time as part of the Democrat world-view — Revolution.
4 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:35:05 AM by KC Burke (...but He has made the trains run on time.)
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The whole mess needs cleaned up And Americans put in charge.
7 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:38:55 AM by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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I just don’t understand how the things they are doing, basically destroying our economy and way of life, mangling our laws and trampling on the Constitution, I just don’t see how theat can all be reversed without some sort of conflict. Sarah Palin isn’t going to save us. If she were in charge, the Congress would still be there, the Federal Resrve, the U.N. etc. etc.— We just need a reboot. A cleansing, if you will. These people won’t go away quietly. let’s show them the door.
8 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:41:01 AM by cyst
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Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution
Never happen. Civil war will be the only answer. The communists hold over the Country is huge and total rebellion is the only way the Constitution can be reinstalled. King Obama has paid for his followers and those followers are criminals. There is no peaceful way to overthrow. Wish it were not so.
9 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:41:31 AM by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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God speed that Day.
12 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:43:28 AM by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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America is at that awkward stage.
It’s too late to work within the system,
but too early to shoot the bastards.
-Claire Wolfe
Or is it too early?
8 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:46:02 AM by Raymann


I understand they will be changing the Cream of Wheat box. The non-threatening Negro wearing the chef’s hat will be replaced with a Mugabe-type with leopard skin fez and bad Ray-bans.
5 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:50:34 AM by fortunate sun (Fight the marxist occupation of America. Support the Healthcare Insurrection.)
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The US military wouldn't keep it, too honorable. They'd give it back to We the People after taking out the trash, which is piled very high and deep in Washington.
If they don't, We the People may have to.
26 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:51:39 AM by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)


"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
27 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:53:46 AM by cyst
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We all swore to uphold the Constitution.
Uphold and defend the Constitution, from all enemies foreign and domestic.
And if those domestic enemies reside in Washington DC??
28 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:53:50 AM by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Seems to me this kind of talk is being stirred up by Democrat disrupters to try to discredit us.
Everyone: be very careful of trolls who sign up and post stuff like this so FR can be painted as a conspiracy or violence-advocating hate site.
29 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:54:45 AM by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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You know, now that you mention it, I DO fit the Dept. of Homeland Security profile of a terrorist.
30 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:56:52 AM by cyst
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My country right or wrong applies to something else. This is not the country we want or the country we had. It certainly will not be the country we agreed on in the Constitution if this all continues with obozo as it has.
We are experiencing an overthrow of the government and Constitution without due process and the only way I can see to reverse it is with counter action of the same type.
Sedition can have a very broad interpretation, treason not so much. Obozo is aidint abetting the destruction of the United States by weakening it and thus aiding foreign powers in the ultimate ovethrow or destruction of the United States ...Treason.
37 posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07:30 AM by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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[Rude Dog]

1. Once again...

Freep plots treason.

Can we have them shut down yet?

[saracat]

7. The newsmax Op-Ed sounds pretty bad too!

[tomm2thumbs]

91. media matters appears to have grabbed a screen capture of another deleted article

article with .pdf link

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909300012

[JuniperLea]

32. Leaving them alone = giving them enough rope...

I don't want to take away their condemning, irrefutable evidence of their own crimes... erm... free speech!

[Contrary1]

2. Next time get a screen capture. n/t

[Mrs. Overall]

4. I'm not sure I know how to do that--

I just copied the whole thing and then pasted it into the post window.

[BlooInBloo]

9. There's a key in the upper-right of your keyboard reading "Print Screen", or similar...

Hit that button. Then open Paint or some image editing program, and hit ctrl-V (paste).

Then save the file, and upload it to flickr, imageshack, or any of a dozen other picture hosting sites.

[Mrs. Overall]

16. Merci! Will do that if I ever run across crap like this again.

[BlooInBloo]

21. De rien. Note that possibly if you hit the Browser-Back key enough...

you'll get taken to the page-as-it-was-before-being-scrubbed, and could still screenshot it.

[alfredo]

47. If you are on a Mac you can hit the Shift - Apple key and 3 and it will do a

screenshot. If you want to do just a section you do Shift - Apple key and 4. Your cursor will turn into a crosshair. Hold down the mouse button and drag the cursor over the area you want to capture, then release.

[myrna minx]

50. Thanks - I've always wondered how to do that on my mac.

:hi:

[alfredo]

63. Glad I could help

[tomm2thumbs]

89. and if you do that with a 4 instead of a 3, you can grab the section you want with crosshairs

click drag - like making a box. when you release, the image will be captured... although for this kind of thing grabbing the entire screen might be easiest - just adding the other option if you like to grab just the browser window

[RKP5637]

33. VERY Helpful! Never realized that key was there! Works in Linux too! Thanks!

[BlooInBloo]

35. Heh. Level 2: Use alt-printscreen to capture just the current window...

Espcially useful on systems with more than one monitor.

No idea if it works on *nix or not. I imagine you'll let us know sometime soon. :P

[RKP5637]

64. No doubt! Thx!

:)

[GoCubsGo]

65. Firefox has an add-on for users of that browser

It's called "Screengrab!". You can save as a JPEG or PNG. Very easy to use.

http://www.screengrab.org/

[BlooInBloo]

66. Actually, there are many....

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=screen+capture&cat=all

Users can choose what's best for their needs.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

99. I found Screengrab last week, and "I like it"

[CatholicEdHead]

11. Select your browser window

Control-Shift-Print Screen

Paste into Microsoft Paint and then save as a .jpg file.

[TorchTheWitch]

93. CTRL + Prnt Scrn key

I've never needed to use the Shift key, and I do screenshots all the time.

[ashling]

70. Google has an app called "snip" or something like that

that will allow you to snip any part of what's on the screen.

[SeattleGirl]

3. If you haven't already, you should forward it to the Secret Service

This stuff cannot be ignored.

(And thanks for copying it before they deleted it.)

[cascadiance]

28. At least even if it isn't as good a proof as a screenshot, it is on their radar screen...

If someone else out there in the ozone of the internet did do a screenshot, then a note with this text could serve as a valuable corroboration of the content there. So this in the SS's hand still would be valuable.

These idiots are confusing the term "American" with "fascist"!

[WeDidIt]

34. If Rim Jobinson loved America like he claims to

he would be the one reporting these people to the FBI and the Secret Service,

[HipChick]

5. As much as it pains me, that's another reason why

I frequent rightie websites..to keep an eye on what they are up to..

[Mrs. Overall]

8. Me too. I especially read any threads that have to do with violence or racism--

which are sometimes pulled, but often left up.

[BlooInBloo]

6. Screenshot or it didn't happen.

[SeattleGirl]

10. Not everyone knows how to do that. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

12. That's why I just provided the steps.

[SeattleGirl]

40. I missed it the first time through.

Thanks for the info!

[Mrs. Overall]

13. Well, it did happen.

I couldn't make this shit up.

But, I know, for official use and verification, I need to learn to do a screen capture.

[BlooInBloo]

15. :) It's just a standard intenet line people use when someone claims something astounding...

Didn't mean it literally - I believe you. :)

[Marr]

42. A screenshot is no more credible than cut-and-paste.

[CanonRay]

14. So all this happened in 9 months?

How the hell do people get so delusional...

[CatholicEdHead]

22. Actually, 11 months or more

Remember they were calling for impeachment on election night before the west coast polls closed, about the exact time the election was called for Obama.

[Swamp Rat]

17. Good! Send it to the Secret Service and the FBI!!!

Fuck those traitors!

[Regret My New Name]

18. What exactly do they think is going on that warrants such talk?

You'd think President Obama has initiated martial law and is sending people off to labour camps... What planet are these people on?

[get the red out]

30. Cream of Wheat box

I think the "Cream of Wheat box" comment sheds light on that. Something like "Governing while black", just "un-Amuricun".

[CoffeeCat]

19. I wish the Freepers would explain something...

Like how in the hell they stood around cheerleading George Bush as he totally
destroyed our democracy?

They told us we were unpatriotic when we dared to question that our privacy rights
were being infringed when Bush illegally wiretapped.

When we had to stand in "free speech zones" and protest--miles from where Bush was
speaking--that was all fine and dandy.

When the failed Iraq war--bankrupted our nation--they attacked us all when we tried to
draw attention the billions we were wasting. They could have cared less about our
deficit or national debt when Bush had the checkbook.

When Bush stripped away Habeas Corpus--we were mocked and told we didn't care about
national security.

But now...NOW these freaks want to kill people and storm the castle because their poor
country is being destroyed?

Give. Me. A. Freakin. Break.

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[CoffeeCat]

82. I will say this...

I'm totally unhappy with all of Obama's decisions/policies related to every point you lay out. You are totally
right.

The problem I have with the Freepers is this--THEY are not intellectually or morally consistent. They scare me.
Their hair is on fire right now--but when it was Bush doing the same things--they mocked us.

When Bush was in office, I screamed against his unConstitutional decisions and his destruction of the country. I rally
against Obama, when he does the same things. I don't put up with Obama not reinstating Habeas. In fact, that was one
of the primary reasons I agreed to be a precinct captain for him. He said he would give back Habeas and he even mentioned
that he would do this in his "Blueprint For America". So yeah, I'm pissed. I'm also ticked about Afghanistan, immunity for
the telcos, Guantanamo, and big Pharma/big Insurance deciding who lives or dies.

I am consistent, but the Freeper yahoos are not. You wait, if a Republican takes the White House in 2012--they'll be
rationalizing every horrid move.

So yes, the Freepers are saying they don't like things now--but they have no credibility. I don't want to be on the
same side with a bunch of hypocrites--because when a Repub does the same things--they look the other way! They want
Fascism, as long as the party in power is wearing their uniform.

[Arctic Dave]

85. Big oil can't bribe anymore? Are they broke?

[Sinti]

92. By "revolution" you mean an enthusiastic return to participatory democracy, right?

We are a large group of people here in the US - all of the groups you blame for our current less than optimal situation are very small. If we participate, write letters, sign petitions, strikes, make a fuss generally (but civilly and respectfully with viable solutions to offer and agreed upon demands), we can easily get what we all agree we'd like to see happening here. We also need to communicate, so that we all understand that we're here together, rather than little islands suffering at the hand of the powerful.

The problem is we (the vast majority of Americans - you can include me there) have not been participating fully and communicating with one another effectively for decades. That's how we got to here.

[notadmblnd]

97. We have a problem all right.

it's with the freaks advocating violence because they don't like having a black president.

Bush took 8 years to create this mess. Obama has been in office for nine months. You expect it all to be turned around in a day?
You still have your republican congress critters hindering in any way possible, all attempts to improve the peoples situation.

Just what the hell do you expect?

I imagine even republicans like pizza, what would you like on yours?

[CatholicEdHead]

20. Too late

"Everyone: be very careful of trolls who sign up and post stuff like this so FR can be painted as a conspiracy or violence-advocating hate site."

Looking at the other posts, the radical wannabe-militia types really want real blood.

The Secret Service has to be pretty busy nowadays.

[CoffeeCat]

25. Is the Freeper who posted that post...

...a new person or someone who's been on FR for a while?

Same goes for the responses. I bet those who chimed in with violence-advocating posts
are long-time Freepie posters.

So, the deflective message really means nothing--cuz it's not just about the OP Freeper--it's
about the man "yes, exactly" responses.

Those aren't "trolls" and everyone knows that. Everyone knows what FR is all about.

[JuniperLea]

37. Everybody knows...

The once thin veil has gaping holes in it now... their dirty laundry is showing... and reeking.

[yodoobo]

23. So now. DU is hosting the call to arms and FreeRepublic isn't

ironic.

[SeattleGirl]

26. Huh?

That makes no sense.

DU is doing no such thing.

[yodoobo]

57. Well if Freepers are disapointed it was deleted

They can just some here and catch up on their reading.

[Mrs. Overall]

29. Yeah, go bury your head in the sand. They need to be called on this shit and reported--

ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

[yodoobo]

56. Oh by all means REPORT it

and call them out.

Just don't propagate it.

[Name removed]

78. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[yodoobo]

80. Oh yes genius one?

Oh anonymous one, please demonstrate to the world your great genius to all the other anonymous people here.

[get the red out]

24. The one guy says to be careful of people posing and making Freepers look bad

But the entire discussion is based on a News max op ed. :shrug:

What part of this isn't treason? Really, this is a call to overthrow the elected government of the United States. (As usual).

[kctim]

27. Ah, its the mid 90's again

[Kalyke]

49. Except the economy isn't as good. n/t

[LeftinOH]

31. They think they're living in the movie 'Red Dawn'.

[Posteritatis]

53. Argh. The cheese is in my head. Avenge me! (nt)

[notadmblnd]

98. they're remaking that movie here in my town.

[JuniperLea]

36. I'm sure someone at the CIA or FBI has access to all the InterTubes...

I'm sure all our stuff is being funneled through a tiny AT&T building in San Francisco... some things haven't changed too much as of yet... this may well be a very good reason why is hasn't, or shouldn't.

[snooper2]

59. that's technically impossible...

but of course the Internet is just a series of tubes to some people...

[JuniperLea]

62. I guess you didn't get the memo...

That's exactly what has been happening... that's why I mentioned a specific company and city... that is how they did the wiretap/data mining operations.

[snooper2]

69. AT&T was sending traffic routed on THEIR network to the feds

"I'm sure all our stuff"

Real technical there....how long have you worked in the telecommunications industry again?


I take it you are an expert on CALEA as well.... :rofl:

[JuniperLea]

71. I dumbed it down just for you, slick...

You should Google AT&T wiretap datamining and educate yourself. I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you... I didn't bring my heavy bone-head drilling equipment today.

:eyes:

[snooper2]

75. ROFL

I've actually been in that Central Office before doing work (Not the secure room my badge wouldn't work :P - And yes I've read everything written by the AT&T whistleblower)...

But the dumbed down statement that all our stuff is being monitored is just stupid. A fraction of traffic was monitored..AT&T and two other providers...


Do you actually work for Juniper Networks? That would explain a lot :rofl: ( Go google Juniper Networks now :) )

[nebenaube]

67. Clueless much? n/t

[snooper2]

68. How much Traffic is being routed over all Internet providers at any moment in time

and how many fucking OC192 do you think would be required to gather all that data...


Oh, and for the clueless, if you have hosting services from say, Quest. And DIA services from Quest at your office, you really think they route that traffic when you visit your page via AT&T :rofl:

[JuniperLea]

74. Why do you think Bush fought so hard for immunity for the telecom companies?

Laugh it up, genius...

:eyes:

[snooper2]

76. So the illegalities of his executive "rulings" wouldn't get uncovered

Which is exactly what a lawsuit would bring...


How are they capturing all our stuff again? If I send you an SMS message from my Sprint Cellphone is that going through the "room"

You'll be happy to know that some telecommunications providers did not break the law at any time, followed the law as it relates to CALEA. :)


What's your phone number again? :evilgrin:

[JuniperLea]

77. 1-800-Fuckyou eom

[snooper2]

79. That wouldn't be a valid 8xx Service, too many characters

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


I'm going to go look at some of the "stuff" we collected over the past 30 minutes now...only a couple terabytes to go through but I've got a real good indexing mechanism ....


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[JuniperLea]

81. Jesus you are dense...

I understand the concept of key words... and of data mining... you are just full of snarky assholery. You made stupid assumptions... and you laugh. Jesus God... how some people survive in the world is just amazing.

[nebenaube]

95. forgive him...

He has no concept of the 'backbone'...

[snooper2]

96. And what's your field of expertise?

how many "backbones" do you think are out there? Are you reffering the the GDC ATM backbone MFS used to have back in the day? Maybe you reffering to the frame relay backbones of the world. Cascade was a great company....oh, are you talking about the numerous IP Backbones by all the Telecom companies. Sprint has two, yep TWO backbones for IP traffic, one for DIA with no COS and a second for their VPN and VoIP customers.

do you know what peering connections are by the way???

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

38. They really do want the U.S. to become a Banana Republic with a military junta

Banana Republicans.

[thunder rising]

39. They are just stoking up a crazy lone wolf to pull a trigger.

Since, the wingers haven't shown any motivation to actually fight in a real war or battle.

It's the lone wolf that needs health care to give him some counseling and meds before he goes off the deep end.

Winger churches are able to recruit these folks since the only place to go to help ease the torment of the various forms of crazy are these churches. The preachers know they are one suggestion away from being a murderer.

Messages like this are as dangerous an Osama bin Laden taped call to activate.

[Berry Cool]

60. True. It's almost as if they placed a classified ad.

"Wanted: One modern-day Oswald who can rid us of this meddlesome president and is willing to endure the consequences. That way, we can all sit back with a sigh of relief while he takes one for the team."

It's disgusting--and, as some here have pointed out, highly ironic considering the actions of the president before him, and how he was put in office, compared to this one and what he's done so far.

[Mrs. Overall]

61. Actually, there were quite a few posts on the Kennedy assassination mixed into this thread and I

didn't copy those.

Now, I realize why they were there. Initially they just seemed like they were out of place and a side discussion. They even had a picture that repeatedly showed Kennedy's head being shot.

Holy shit. I wish I had copied the Kennedy discussion as well.

[laughingliberal]

90. That one is a good way to get a little face time with the Secret Service...

or FBI

[MindPilot]

41. Bring it motherfuckers!

You sit there behind your computer screen posting about what badass patriots you are. Let's see some action.

Oh, didn't think so.

[thunder rising]

72. Be cool

What I started to post above was
I'm sure the wingers have expensive exotic weapons; furthermore, I'm sure their battle field experience gained from sitting in tree stands waiting for man-eating deer and killer rabbits has honed their skills to perfection. However, their unorganized, undisciplined mob would result in a ridiculous Cheneyian friendly fire disaster that would be comedy if it weren't deadly.

It would be a sad, sad event.

[wryter2000]

43. Someone please explain to me

I just don’t understand how the things they are doing, basically destroying our economy and way of life, mangling our laws and trampling on the Constitution,

I can see how someone might think Obama and the dems are destroying our economy. I wouldn't agree, but I could see a rational way of thinking that. But honestly, how has our way of life changed? What laws have been mangled? How has the Constitution been trampled? When we accused Bush of mangling the Constitution, we could point to examples -- mostly of illegal wiretapping and imprisonment. What in hell are they talking about? Do they ever say?

[byronius]

45. Gotta appreciate the humor of a poster named 'cyst' who knows the Constitution.

And 'Sequoyah101' bemoaning this terrible overthrow of Bushville by 'Democracy', whatever that is.

[Sebastian Doyle]

48. "Sequoyah" also alludes (in its signature) to the fact that half the country has a below average IQ

Which is ironic, given the crowd they're preaching to. And also the fact that they can't spell their own name.

[and-justice-for-all]

46. Be sure to turn this into the Secret Service and FBI

I am sure they are under surveillance any way, but it does not hurt to turn this nutty shit over to them for evaluation.

[booley]

51. Were these people f*&king asleep the last 8 years?!?!?!

"We are experiencing an overthrow of the government and Constitution without due process"

:mad: No! No you are not "experiencing" it. You already experienced it with Shrub. FOR EIGHT FRIGGIN YEARS! And CONSERVATIVES were his CHEERLEADERS!

If Obama has any blame here. it's not undoing that with as much alacrity as he should.

Gawds these morans piss me off. How can they have such a combination of self righteousness AND Stupidity?! Should someone who is self righteous at least make sure they are RIGHT first?

:argh:

[Orsino]

52. This is the sound white privilege makes as it dies. n/t

[mike_c]

83. you nailed that one, I think....

Bingo! :toast:

[anonymous171]

87. White privilege is far from dying nt

[Orsino]

94. No, it's beginning to die, I think.

Not because America is evolving into a progressive paradise, of course, but because the plutocrats aren't playing by the rules. Rank-and-file wingnuts are dismayed to discover that their white skins no longer get them the same old privileges, that they are after all just so much more grist for the mill...little different from all those poor, brown people.

Their outrage is thunderous, if not pitiable.

[NNN0LHI]

54. Here is the URL. How does one go about getting the cached version of this?

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2357629/posts

[deaniac21]

55. Important stuff. You will help change the world.

[Mrs. Overall]

58. Hmmm, care to elaborate?

[Kurska]

73. Next time hit print screen (Next to scroll lock) go to msn paint and hit control v

Save the file, thats the way to take as screenshot

Send that to the Secret service.

[chrisa]

84. Epic fail idiots.

These are the same people that used the reasoning that, since the army doesn't teach soldiers to shoot over 400 meters (which sounds like bs - what about snipers? lmao), their units of fat and retarded rednecks, 20 at most, should be able to take on the entire US military. One dumbass even suggested an "Assault Wheelbarrow," where they would shoot with the wheelbarrow, and then pretend that they were just a civilian using a wheelbarrow after the shot was fired to create confusion. I'm not kidding.

They're not going to do anything. They only know how to whine.

[CatholicEdHead]

100. Sounds like they want covert guerrilla style warfare

similar to what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan against our troops.

[anonymous171]

86. Wow. That sounds remarkably similiar to what the fascists were going to do to FDR

[Monk06]

88. Bill Mayer said it best, RWers are a bunch of fifty something Civil War Reenacters