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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:08 AM
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REPORT: ‘We Will Overthrow The Government’ — Calls For Violence Repeatedly Stoked
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/08/anti-obama-violence/

REPORT: ‘We Will Overthrow The Government’ — Calls For Violence Repeatedly Stoked By Conservative Voices

Last week, the right-wing media outlet Newsmax — which receives 4 million unique monthly visitors and 130,000 print subscribers — published a column by conservative author John Perry arguing that a military coup could “resolve” the “radical left…Obama problem.” After being widely criticized, Newsmax retracted the column. However, the column appears to have encouraged an already angry group of anti-Obama radicals who have been plotting violence against the government.

While discussing the Newsmax column on his XM Sirius radio show last week, Michelangelo Signorile heard from a caller, “Jim from Oklahoma,” who explained that the idea of a coup is already being planned by a group of at least 200 people:

Pulling our government down, pulling our President out, and putting him back where he should be <...> the right to bear arms, it’s in the Constitution. <...> We need a coup, there needs to be a coup and if the United States military won’t do it, we’ll do it.

Jim confirmed that he was “dead serious.” Although he was coy about specific details, Jim said that he was motivated by homophobia and an interest in bringing back slavery. A second caller confessed that her own mother has been scheming against the government because she has been captivated by racist thoughts and a belief that “Jesus is coming to overthrow Barack Obama.” She pleaded for people to recognize the extremist threat against Obama. Watch it:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:18 AM
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1. CIA and FBI should really look into this.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:20 AM
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2. CIA can't
FBI can
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:21 AM
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3. @_@
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:28 AM
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4. The CIA is not a law enforcement agency, the FBI is.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:30 AM
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5. Alright, alright
Yeesh...
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:30 AM
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6. that's not the distinction
the distinction is that the CIA cannot investigate matters INTERNAL. the FBI can

they are both investigative agencies. the FBI also has agents that have arrest (enforcement powers) but it's primary job is investigation.

regardless, the distinction is one of jurisdiction.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:34 AM
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7. I was going to say that, but just went with the law enforcement angle.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:36 AM
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8. we think alike
that's good
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:37 PM
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14. I worked for a different agency through the military.
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 02:37 PM by alfredo
My avatar is a clue.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:20 AM
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24. admittedly, i was not in the military
so clue me in.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:24 AM
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25. Army Security Agency. We were the nerds
and "tit-less WACS" of the Army, but without us they'd be deaf. We answered to Ft Meade, not so much the Pentagon.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:29 AM
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28. nice thanks for serving
i had a friend who said he worked "army intelligence" when i knew him. don't know if that was the unit you were in. he spoke russian. after the cold war ended he ended up applying and working for the PD
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:11 AM
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29. It depends on the years he served. The ASA was disbanded then resurrected
as INSCOM.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:35 PM
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22. The CIA cannot officially operate inside the US
the few times they have... well read about the Church Committee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:40 PM
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23. Those agencies are only used domestically against anti-war activists
silly.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:43 AM
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9. I hope the appropriate agencies are looking into what these nuts are plotting.
Jim says he is motivated by homophobia and an interest in bringing back slavery. My god, this is very disturbing.

It is domestic terrorism. Makes no difference if al Qaeda is plotting to overthrow the government or Jim from Oklahoma is - its all the same and it is terrorism.

The DHS report about right wing extremism and violence was right on the money.
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Wraith20878 Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:52 AM
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10. Jim wants the country back to the way it was 400 years ago
Apparently he wants to be ruled by England again.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:55 AM
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11. Yay! Then we'd have good health care!
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:58 PM
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13. Not much difference between being ruled by merchantilist monopolies
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 01:59 PM by juno jones
and corporate ones.

He should feel right at home.

He'll even be able to keep his 'taxed to death' bumpersticker.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:43 PM
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12. Don't recall these fuckers' voices clamoring to pull our government down as our Constitution was
being systematically dismantled by junior and his minions so this surely is nothing about the Constitution and all about race/ideology foreign to our Constitution. ;)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:07 PM
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16. Yeah, funny enough, when we were devolving into fascism and world-wide
imperialism-at-gunpoint, none of these assholes said "peep!" When we had a so-called "pResident" whose "elections" were legitimately questionable, whose attitude toward the Constitution was, in effect, that it was a "goddamn piece of paper", and whose regime was systematically breaking down every convention that would prevent the executive branch from going rogue and claiming dictatorial status (if not dictatorial power already), they were just fine and dandy about everything.

And to think our Homeland Security Department backed down on that report it issued a few months ago that "right"-wing extremist groups were going to be the source of increased domestic terrorism in this country!

It just boggles the mind.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:01 PM
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18. These fucker-heads have no problem with any of the trappings of a dictatorship as long as
it is their guy who is the dictator. ;)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:33 PM
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21. Now there's a familiar turn of phrase!
STILL makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

:scared:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:32 AM
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27. They must have learned from US foreign policy
or from Bush, Cheney, Rush et al who repeated ad nauseum that the Democratic party was made up of unpatriotic Americans and its leaders were not fit to rule.

Never forget that they are a tiny minority. Dems won big time.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:00 PM
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15. "motivated by homophobia and an interest in bringing back slavery"
that's the ticket!

:wow:
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:27 PM
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20. LOL
I think he's scored the slogan for the GOP 2012 campaign!
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:13 PM
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17. Jesus is coming!!! Ahhh!!!!!
Run!!!
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:09 PM
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19. And yet the cops beat up peaceful protesters at the G-20
Then again, let it be known the the establishment doesn't care so long as you argue in favor of making the rich richer.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:26 AM
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26. Oh my. These people are fucking nuts.
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