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samrock Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:08 AM
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Senate will vote on Heath Care bill on Tuesday
ok I am confused.. It sounds as if they will simply vote on the Bacus bill in its totally.. not making ANY effort to combine it with the bill produced by the health committee.. Sorta simply ignoring that there was another bill in the senate that many worked hard on to pass their committee.. Am I not getting something here??? If what I understand is correct than NO public Option from the Senate... ANNND to make matters worse I am hearing some in the house suggest they simply pass what comes from the Senate EXACTLY .. meaning no need FOR a conference commitee to combine a house bill and a senate bill.. Are we being simply by passed and rolled?????
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:09 AM
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1. No, the Senate Finance Committee will vote on its Healthcare Bill on Tuesday.
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 10:10 AM by Mass
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samrock Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:10 AM
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2. Ooooooooo ok...
Feel better....
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:17 AM
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3. Mailed another letter to Ben Nelson yesterday,
and, for good measure, e-mailed our Republican Senator, Mike Johanns, too.

I think there's almost as much chance of getting a positive vote out of Johanns as there is out of Nelson. Nelson was an insurance executive, so maybe you can guess why he is so reticent about this whole issue. He's still their man, I fear.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:27 AM
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4. Reminder of what we are up against...
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 10:28 AM by robdogbucky
I woke up today and as is my usual ritual turned on the Weather Channel to check the local and national weather news. What hit my eyeballs right out of the gate? Thank dog I had the sound down as is also customary. There in a commercial slot was the message that Medicare will be broke in just 8 more years, that proposed Demo healthcare reforms would cost additional billions in tax dollars, that it is modeled on Canada and England where one has to wait over a year for vital surgery, call your senator now and tell them to vote no, yaddity, yaddity, yaddity…

I noticed at the end at the bottom of the screen, “paid for by AmericansforProgress.”

How could these blatant lies be spewed on our TVs? Isn’t there some check to prevent blatant falsehoods from being pandered to the innocent unassuming public? I realized that the reactionary forces that largely control this country have fought against healthcare reform for at least 3 generations. And if they are one thing it is wealthy beyond common men’s dreams.

And then I recalled where I live, the good old USA, where:

“…Money changes everything
Money, money changes everything
We think we know what we're doin'
That don't mean a thing
It's all in the past now
Money changes everything

They shake your hand and they smile
And they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends
We'll stick with you till the end
Ah but everybody's only
Looking out for themselves
And you say well who can you trust
I'll tell you it's just
Nobody else's money -

Money changes everything
Money changes everything
We think we know what we're doin
We don't pull the strings
It's all in the past now
Money changes everything

Money changes everything
Money changes everything
We think we know what we're doing
We don't know a thing
It's all in the past now

Money changes everything
Money changes everything
Money changes everything”

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/cyndi_lauper/money_changes_everything.html

"Americans for Prosperity (AFP) is a Washington D.C.-based political advocacy group which describes itself on its Web site as "... an organization of grassroots leaders who engage citizens in the name of limited government and free markets on the local, state and federal levels." It was founded in 2004 by David H. Koch of Koch Industries,<1> who in 1984 had also established its predecessor, Citizens for a Sound Economy,<2> from which Americans for Prosperity split in 2003. (Citizens for a Sound Economy rebranded as FreedomWorks.)

The organization is extremely controversial and widely reported as a front organisation or proxy for the petroleum and petrochemical industry whose subsidies and rights are threatened by a shift in US public policy towards "green jobs" and energy conservation..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Prosperity

"This article is part of the Climate change portal on SourceWatch.
This article is part of the Tobacco portal on Sourcewatch, sponsored by the American Legacy Foundation. Help expose the truth about the tobacco industry.

Americans for Prosperity (AFP), a section 501(c)(4) organization, and Americans for Prosperity Foundation (AFP Foundation), a section 501(c)(3) organization, are "committed to educating citizens about economic policy and a return of the federal government to its Constitutional limits." On its website it states that it supports "cutting taxes and government spending in order to halt the encroachment of government in the economic lives of citizens by fighting proposed tax increases and pointing out evidence of waste, fraud, and abuse."<1>

AFP was one of the lead organizations behind the Tax Day Tea Party protests April 15, 2009. Its Director is Art Pope, an ex-legislator who has been dubbed "The Knight of the Right" by Raleigh News and Observer journalist Rob Christensen.<2>

In mid-2009, Americans for Prosperity launched an advertising and advocacy campaign opposing U.S. health care reform named Patients United Now.<3>

On its website it describes its "featured partners" as being the Heartland Institute's International Conference on Climate Change, the Internet Freedom Coalition and Townhall.com.<4>
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Americans_for_Prosperity


Just my dos centavos

robdogbucky
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:34 AM
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5. No, Tuesday is our last chance to stop the Baucus bill
and give the HELP bill a fighting chance.
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:27 PM
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6. baucus bill
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 12:29 PM by maglatinavi
There are a lot of organizations that are promoting the health care cause and have likewise ads debunking the lies of the Repugs and the repugbluedogs... try to help them and participate in their campaigns writing and or callinf Congress members... I think it will have an impact...
However, we need a better stance from the Potus... but potus or no potus will keep up the fight... the dream never ends...:thumbsup: :dem:
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