Jim Webb would have killed the shooter with his

[jcrew2001]

concealed weapon. I think that this strengthens the need for Virginians and DC to have firearms to protect themselves, the more guns there are, the less people will die.

Next week there will be another NRA rally with Charleton Heston proclaiming that they will never take his guns from his cold dead hands!

[pretzel4gore]

1. maybe that was the psychological playground he was in...

bang bang shootem up! 'tonight, we''ll dine IN HELLLL!'

[trumad]

2. Dude==== I don't even trust a teenager behind the wheel of a car

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

3. Jim Webb, Diplomat and Author, among other accomplishments, would have done the right

thing at the right moment.

Whether that moment meant shooting a person could be debated forever. MKJ

[dmkinsey]

4. I think that if I were in that classroom I would have wanted a gun

Logically, I believe that if everyone carried a gun these situations would become all against all in a free-fire orgy. But, if someone's trying to shoot me I'd like to have the option of shooting back.

I work in a store that sells guns and our accountant asked one of the gun guys "If you had a concealed weapon in this situation could you shoot the guy?"

Gun guy said "you could and I would".
He was in Vietnam. I have no doubt he would shoot the guy.

[KoKo]

8. You think that most College studen't would get it together enough to pack a gun?

Have it ready in their dorm room while they are preparing for class or sitting in the classroom after rolling out of bed and cramming for test or trying to find your laptop under your dirty laundry to take notes would have time to "slip their gun in their pocket?" Or, do you prefer a holster?

It' just not realistic unless one expects their college dorm room or classroom to be invaded by a "psycho intruder" ready to kill...when you are just there in your "normal routine."

It's just not realistic. They weren't attacked in the dark walking around campus to the library...they weren't expecting to be in a sneak attack. It's just not something College kids are thinking about. That they need to be prepared "at all times" like a soldier in Iraq or Afhanistan or riding a subway or in a place that would signify danger that they needed to be "on their toes and aware." :shrug:

[brentspeak]

5. Jim Webb is not a Virginia Tech student or professor

[AnnieBW]

6. Aren't Heston's Hands Cold and Dead Yet?

That dude's older than Kurt Vonnegut. Maybe God gave him a few extra years for playing Moses?

[Hekate]

7. How do you feel about regulating gun owners as stringently as drivers of cars?

Just curious.

Personally, I would not try to ban guns, but I would treat them as an item as dangerous to own and use as an automobile, and regulate their ownership accordingly. Does that work for you?

Oh, and I very much believe that bullets need to be identifiable -- that can be done, and law enforcement is in favor of it.

Law enforcement associations are also in favor of outright bans or strict regulation of military-style weaponry for civilian use. Back to the car analogy -- we don't let Joe Citizen drive a military tank down Main Street, nor do we let soccer moms use same to pick up the kids from the elementary school. I'm pretty sure of that.

Hekate

[beevul]

10. More than not...

firearms ARE treated like automobiles.

Automobiles do NOT have to be liscensed or registered unless used on public property. Much the same for guns, for the most part though guns require a background check to purchase (unless you buy from a private sale), and cars do not.

Bullets being identifiable...is a pipedream. Google "ballistic fingerprinting" and see how well it has worked out where it has been implemented.

As far as military style weaponry goes...You are talking about guns that are not fully automatic or select fire, and are basically self loading firearms. Otherwise knows as modern firearms. These firearms fire a less-powerful than or in many cases exact same cartridge as - most hunting firearms.


I know that might sound absurd, but it is absolutely true.

[mzteris]

9. VA already has VERY lenient gun laws, including CW's -

". . .Virginia Tech is in Blacksburg, in a scenic Blue Ridge valley in southwestern Virginia, in an area where gun ownership is common. . .

Virginia has lenient gun-ownership laws. Ownership requires only passing criminal background checks, which can be bypassed by buying from an unlicensed dealer. And unlicensed dealers can sell their wares at gun shows without requiring criminal checks. Guns need not be registered unless the owner wants to carry a concealed weapon."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/16/news/virginia.ph...




How about we require mediation training for every child in school?

and just in case for those who break with reality -

How about we require self-defense training - real self-defense not pseudo-karate bs - as part of every PE program?

[youngdem]

11. If they allowed concealed weapons on frat boys at LSU, there would be 30 dead a DAY

Hey BRUH, did you look at my girlfriend?

Hey Bruh, did you see that bitch over there sittin with those Delta Chi's?

Sally, I bet you can't shoot this can off my head.

Hey Bubba, bet you yer lunch apple you can't shoot that squirrel.



NO THANK YOU. That solution would be FAR worse than the problem.

How's about we get real about the fact that life is uncertain, and that you can't protect yourself from everything, and if your lottery number is drawn, then you're dead.

And really, wouldn't it be worse having kids carrying guns to class protecting themselves from a FREAKISHLY rare occurrence.

We can't legislate or shoot our way out of every potential threat.

[elcondor]

14. Heh, yeah, let's combine guns and

a TON of alcohol ... :toast:

[gravity]

12. In hindsight, Webb should have been in the classroom to shoot the killer

I'm tired of these assumptions that only serve to push their political agenda.

While a gun in the classroom COULD have saved lives in this incident, there could be more gun shootings across colleges in the country, since more emotionally unstable kids will have easier access to guns.

[frogcycle]

13. this thread is brain dead

[damntexdem]

15. One nutcase with a gun was enough.

I don't want to be in a situation with multiple nutcases thinking they're a western hero.

The fewer guns there are, the safer we are.

But the NRA and other gun nuts will claim VA Tech means we need more guns around, and all too many American idiots will fall for their lies.

[Unrepentant Fenian]

16. Charleton Heston was on TV today

I heard that Charleton Heston, head honcho of the National Rifle Association was on CNN for the fifth time this year, breaking the news that he has Alzheimer's Disease. Can't for his upcoming NRA promotion!

[Midlodemocrat]

17. .

:eyes:

The idiocy tonight on this board is astounding.