In America, My Family Who Has Worked Their Entire Lives Just Hit Rock Bottom!!!

[Corey_Baker08]

For those of you who may not know, I would like to start off by introducing myself. My name is Corey Baker, I am 19 years old and I am from a small community in Eastern Ohio that has been hit drastically by the economic downturn. I have been a member of DU since, I believe, 2004 during the primaries when I was just a young 14 year old kid enthusiastic about the political process and a strong believer in the principles of the Democratic Party.

We have all shared our good times and bad times here at DU, to me it is almost like a gathering of family here. We have been through fierce debates, shared great defeats, shared joyous occasions, and even had our own personal tragedies. To me DU is a place where we can all come together as one even though we may have differences in opinions, we all share a common belief that even in the roughest of times we can pick ourselves up because we believe in the Democratic Principles.

I would like to share with all of you that I have always been a strong, good willed individual. I have held a job since the age of 14 and I have worked with the promise that if you work hard and play by the rules your tomorrows will always be better than yesterdays. I believe this with all of my heart, yet over the course of the past week my life has really hit rock bottom. My parents who have worked hard their entire lives in factories and driving trucks are the greatest parents I could ever ask for, I love them more than they will ever imagine. Yet heartbreakingly enough, this week my father lost his factory job which paid a mere $8 an hour. My Mother recently got news that within the next month her position at her factory would be cut due to downsizing their workforce in order to save money.

Every week I un-hesitantly give them my paycheck, which isn't much, to help cover the cost of the bills in our home that we rent. Unfortunately with the loss of my dads job and the imminent loss of my mom's job we are losing everything. We received an eviction notice today stating we had 30 days to find a new place to live. Our current home has not had gas turned on in months, forcing us to boil water on the stove to take baths, and with winter fast approaching, if we should be so lucky enough to stay in our home, it is going to be another winter of hardship without heat in the house.

I am amazed that this is happening to us in America, the richest country on the face of the earth where the top 1% has more wealth than the bottom 95% combined. (I think those figures are right) It amazes me that in my short life through all the struggles we have endured that now of all times we are losing everything.

I understand that I am only 1 of so many millions of Americans facing these tough challenges to say the least. I am sure that these sentiments are the stories of millions of working families just like mine, who don't just happen to be down on their luck, but happen to be at rock bottom.

I am not asking for your sympathy, I am not asking for your money, I am sharing with you my story of a family on the absolute brink of losing everything. This is the America that we live in right now, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and finally the poor hit rock bottom and lose everything!

I am asking that if there is anyone out there with the absolute ability and means to help my family in anyways possible it would be greatly appreciated. I don't mean for this to come off as a solicitation of any sorts, these are the words of an individual who is watching his family who have worked hard their entire lives lose everything. These are the words of a 19 year old who is completely heartbroken that his life and the life of his family is hitting absolute rock bottom.

Thank-You for Letting me vent and if by the grace of god anyone can offer help or advice feel free to PM me!!!

Thank-You

Corey A Baker

[pnwmom]

1. I don't know to where you have turned for help, but I just wanted to make

a suggestion, for you and anyone else in this situation.

One of the reasons we have given to Catholic Community Services over the years is that they provide services to anyone in need -- regardless of that person's religion or lack thereof. They will not preach at you, either. If you were to call them, and ask to speak to a counsellor for someone in your situation, they will tell you if there are resources in your community that can help you right now.

My heart goes out to you, Corey.

[Le Taz Hot]

14. Maybe Catholic Charities are different

in different cities but I found them useless here. One had to fit a WHOLE list of criteria in order to receive food. From the time you start the application process to the time your eligibility is determined is about 1 month. I'm not sure what people are supposed to eat during that month.

Believe it or not, and I'm still ROYALLY pissed at them for Prop. H8, the ONE church I could count on was the Mormons. Luckily I had a couple of Mormon friends who made some phone calls (on behalf of a student of mine) and within 2 hours I had 4 HUGE boxes of groceries delivered to my classroom.

[Joe Fields]

33. catholic charities ARE useless.

In my family's time of great need, the Catholic charities turned their back on us. I used to be catholic, my sisters are catholics in good standing with the church, my son goes to the same church as my sisters, is in the choir and bell choir, and yet, because I refused to get back into the church, my family of 3 was denied any help at all.

Catholic charities are anything BUT, for me.

[pnwmom]

38. I'm very sorry to hear about your experience, Joe. That's inexcusable,

and not in line with the experience of people I know in my community.

For example, an unemployed person I knew who was suffering from depression, and who happens to be an atheist, got help from them -- including free appointments with a licensed therapist -- with no questions about his religious beliefs at all.

[proud2BlibKansan]

117. Catholic Charities is wonderful

They have done much to help many families I know. Joe (supposedly) lives right here where I do. He must be referring to Catholic Charities in a different community. Or he's just making shit up cause it sounds good on the internet.

[Hannah Bell]

91. ? Catholic Charity Services doesn't have a religious criteria. Their programs

(e.g. chore services) are open to everyone.

[Dorian Gray]

118. I'm truly sorry that is your experience with Catholic Charities

In our neighborhood, CC is a truly wonderful resource for the underserved. They really do wonderful things here, and it's a shame that you had the opposite experience where you live. It's unexcusable.

[intaglio]

2. Good luck to you and your family

We are with you and so is the spirit of Tom Joad. Wish more could be done

[bobburgster]

3. I am sorry for your situation.

I wish I had the luxury of being able to help you and your family. It is so sad to hear of good people, who are willing to work hard, not having an opportunity to do so. I know you must all feel disillusioned, and the only advice I can offer is don't give up. Keep clawing and scratching....you will rise from the ever growing pit our society has created with its personal greed and indifference.
I have been there!

[Corey_Baker08]

4. Thank-You Giving Up Is Never an Option!!!

:hi:

[bobburgster]

119. Good to hear!

More than willing to share any knowledge and ideas I might have.

[Corey_Baker08]

5. Thank-You All For The Recs- If Anything This Could Better Help Put a Face To The Struggling...

Instead of just another statistic, also this could encourage others to realize that maybe they don't have it so bad or they could always have it worse!

Let me know what ya think I love feedback!

Thanks DU

[Berry Cool]

6. This is insane, Corey. I am ashamed it is happening in our state and our country.

Thank you for sharing your story here.

Another thing I was thinking you might do is call Sen. Sherrod Brown and just tell him your story. You are guaranteed to find a listening ear, and maybe he will find some way to get some help for those of you affected by these layoffs and downsizings.

Please keep DU posted on what happens if you possibly can.

[RainDog]

7. I wish I could help

my situation is not yet so drastic, but I can fully understand how you got from there to here.

it is SHAMEFUL that this nation of millionaires and banker bonuses has people who are in fear of their very existences because of the mismanagement of this nation's wealth.

[BR_Parkway]

8. I have a place for your family, PM me and we can talk about it

[Barack_America]

16. +1---Corey, check the above message out.

BR_Parkway, the link in your profile, is that your business? It looks great. Where do you ship to?

My mother is also out of work and facing eviction, so I am unfortunately not in a position to help Corey out. But if you can help him out, maybe I can help out your business?

[BR_Parkway]

31. Yes, my partner and I have a few small businesses here and have not been

hit as hard as a lot of other areas during the recession.

Take a look at the Wine to Water link along the left hand side - Doc Hendley is doing wonderful work in helping bring clean drinking water to communities around the world - we're very happy to be their online outlet.

[Carni]

26. What a wonderful offer

This is the kind of stuff I see on DU every now and then that makes me glad I am a member!

I just checked out the website in your profile and have added it to my favorites.

Great site and I wish you continued success!

[Corey_Baker08]

30. I Have Just PMd' you!

Thank-You

[renate]

35. you're an angel

What a sweet, generous, selfless, compassionate, open-hearted person you are.

:loveya:

I'm sure that Corey's heart is lifted not just by your offer but by the knowledge that even in these hard times, with everything his family is going through, wonderful things can happen.

:hug:

[lildreamer316]

9. Corey,

I am very impressed by your eloquence and strength. All I can offer right now is my support and sympathy; and a listening ear - but please feel free to use that as much as you need to. Big huge hugs to you and your parents; and I have great hope you will find a way up and out.

Behind you all the way;
-lildreamer; husband and son.

[deaniac21]

10. If your Dad just lost his job this week, how come you are already

getting an eviction notice. It doesn't sound like the two events could possibly be related.

[lapislzi]

15. Can I get a side of compassion with that?

I have a dear friend who works 2 jobs and is often behind in his rent. It happens, especially if you're part of the working poor--which it certainly sounds like this young man is.

Kindly hold your judgments.

[TicketyBoo]

20. That should NOT happen.

We have always put our rent (and, now, our house payment) at the top on our list of priorities. If you're working two jobs and can't afford your rent, it's obvious that you need to find a cheaper place to live. In many places, public housing is an option.

We drive a 10-year-old car so we don't have to make car payments. We have never accumulated credit card debt.

We eat macaroni and cheese and beans when necessary in order to keep a roof over our heads.

I know that medical costs can hit a family hard, but let the doctors and hospital wait. I do know of two families who lost their homes over medical expenses when they should have paid their mortgage and let the hospital wait for their money. I have a cousin who has lived with cold water and electric space heaters for over two years because she can't afford to turn the gas back on.

The landlord has bills of his own to pay, and maybe even a mortgage on the rental you're living in, so I can understand how he needs his rent.

I mean, this is obviously too late for you right now in your current situation, Corey, but take this as a learning moment. I'm willing to bet that when you get out on your own you will have learned what you need to do to keep this from ever happening to you again.

And, yes, I do feel very fortunate not to be in such a terrible situation as yours.

Another charity I haven't seen mentioned here is the Salvation Army. They help a lot of people here.

Here, there is a county relief agency that can offer a month's rent if you show them an eviction notice. Call your county court house and see if they have such an agency.

Try calling a free legal services office to see if they know of options that may be available to you.

And good luck! There are better days ahead, I'm sure.

[annabanana]

25. "it's obvious that you need to find a cheaper place to live"

What a self righteous, condescending assumption.

[TxRider]

28. I would advise a better state to live

Beg, borrow from extended family whatever and go somewhere where the jobs aren't disappearing. If it isn't already too late.

[dysfunctional press]

36. how so...?

if a person is working two jobs and can't keep up with the rent- it's a very true statement. (and btw- it wasn't directed at the op, either)

[Carolann]

48. Boy! Are you ever right!

Add to that an immoral, inhuman, non-compassionate JERK! Lord, let these people walk ten feet in Corey's shoes!

[defendandprotect]

50. So true . . .and remember to put off that appendectomy . . . !!!

:eyes:

You really wouldn't want to see anything bad happen to anyone - even that idiot --

but, wow . . . for all of us, our happiness hangs by a really thin thread -- and he

sure doesn't seem to get that--!

[truedelphi]

77. Well it seems pretty obvious to some that Corey and his folks

Could just
1) get a first class airline ticket to somewhere else (As though in this day and age, you wouldn't be better off spending time on the internet and check out possibilitiies that way before even thinking of moving.)
or 2) Find somewhere cheaper to live - guess they'll have to give up that hot tub and sauna and the other things that came with their penthouse and start to down scale it

Gosh when I read posts like that heartless one, I want to go chew on the gizzards of any number of Dems who are really Republican but think they are Democrats!

[TicketyBoo]

88. Oh, I knew I was going to get bashed.

You think a landlord can just allow people to live in a place rent-free?

That's just not the way the world works. Taxes, insurance, mortgage payments, upkeep on the rental -- all coming out of the landlord's pocket.

If somebody is working TWO jobs and can't pay the rent, something is wrong. They need to find a cheaper place to live; it's that simple. Public housing is an option in many (even smaller and rural) places (which I suggested).

Did you not read the additional info I provided regarding places where someone in this position can turn?

Did I say anything about postponing medical care? HELL, NO.

So, chew on my gizzard, I guess? I have been called some dirty names at times, but this is the first time anybody ever called me a REPUBLICAN!

Geez.

(By the way, you think I would recommend a first-class airline ticket to ANYWHERE?)

I didn't suppose that anyone was living in a penthouse with a hot tub and sauna, but there should be cheaper digs that allow someone who is working TWO JOBS to afford rent (or look into rent subsidies if income permits, which I also suggested).

I was trying to be practical here, but nobody wants practicality, it seems. They want sympathy and forget the practical advice. Okay. I'm done with it, then.

Have a nice life expecting the world to give everything to everybody, and whine when that doesn't happen. Hey, that works for you? Okay.

[truedelphi]

98. Look if you are a struggling person or family

You probably are already living cheaply.

Let's say that the rent involved is $ 500. That they are barely making it.
For them to move to a cheaper place, say $ 350 a month, they need to have a first month and security depost. So to avoid paying $ 500 they now must come up with $ 700.

Also there are credit checks. So if everything is a struggle, they don't have ANY options. Not really.

In California for a long long itme, landlords required First Month, Last Month and security deposits.

People with kids in grade school and high school want to keep their kids in the same school, for obvious reasons.

As far as reality, this nation can always afford several wars. And bailouts for the banksters.

The only thing this naiton cannot provide us citizens are jobs And decent health care. And and without jobs we are screwn. Royally.

[clear eye]

100. Gee--all those families living in their cars must just like the mobility.

Methinks I'm reading landlord guilt. The OPer (who you most certainly did address in your first response) never asked for free rent. He specifically said he wanted to put a human face on the statistics of people on whom the crumbling economy has landed. The only implication in the post was a desire for work for his folks, and renewed effort by us to demand our government put its resources to improving the economy of "Main St" instead of giving everything to Wall St..

By coincidence, I just posted a petition to create a "Consumer Financial Protection Agency" in order to rein in the greed of our financial institutions that has so drained our country's resources. There are many other measures DUers can support, including "Medicare for All" (removing the burden of health insurance from our businesses) to revitalize our economy. I'm sure other members can think of more.

I know these things don't offer this young man and his family immediate relief, and I hope there are some DUers in a position to offer direct help, but at some point we do have to not only "rescue the babies drowning in the river", but look upstream and address what is pushing them in. I think it is this orientation of DU which made this young man feel that there was a point to posting about his family's tribulations.

If your guilt at evicting the victims of this cruel economy is warping your vision to the point of hating the poor simply for being poor, you need to save your humanity by selling your properties and finding less soul-destroying investments. It sounds as though in a way you are just as much a victim of our looted economy as the OPer.

[TicketyBoo]

110. I have no "landlord guilt."

As I posted elsewhere, I've eaten out of grocery store dumpsters, so don't talk to me about being a REPUBLICAN.

I do know a landlord or two, and yes, they, too are feeling the pinch.

Where I live, it's against the law to charge first month's rent, last month's rent, and deposit. The landlord can charge first month's rent plus deposit.

"Sell your properties." We are struggling to make our mortgage payment and you tell me to "Sell your properties." Oh, in my dreams. Guess you want me living in MY car.

[truedelphi]

124. All those of us critiquing your response want from you is to understand that

When a family is suffering from a calamity, getting "Logical" and coming up with non solution solutions doesn't do very much good for anyone (Although it can help ease the inner gnawing away inside you that maybe this could be YOU.)

When a calamity hits, all that people want is some compassion. It doesn't do any good for an earthquake victim to hear that they should not have lived in an earthquake belt. Or an area of coastline where a tsunami hit.

Financial calamities are not any different. Yes, if some family now facing eviction had not thrown that kid's birthday party four years ago, maybe they would have that $ 75 in an envelope in the sock drawer. But they threw the party. Maybe they lived in a place $ 92.50 more a month than the cheapest comparable property - AND SO WHAT? Maybe they did go on vacation six years back - and yes, if they hadn't maybe that spent four day's worth of gas and fast food, those monies would be in the envelope in the sock drawer.

Whatever is wrong with our society -such that two adults working full time at jobs that don't pay still cannot make it? Well a great deal of is wrong in this society is that while we have endless dollars marked by OUR CONGRESS for the Nobel Peace Prize-winning President amping up the wars, (Including perhaps a new one against Iran) while sending DRONES to oversee the rural areas of Afghanistan (I imagine that these drones will drop missiles that broadcast some version of Lennon's "Imagine" before they slam into the rural wedding feast) we do not have the money or energy to see that our society provides jobs. (Or real health care reform)

And yes this is a calamity for Corey's family. I know that your making endless suggestions of how you'd go about dealing with the crisis if you were in the family's shoes, the fact of the matter remains that the real reason you are doing this is to make yourself feel that here are steps that can be made to avoid calamity.

There aren't any - not once the calamity is in full force. If the tsunami waves are already cresting one mile and a half off the shore - no reasonable precaution is going to make much difference.

[TicketyBoo]

127. Well, it doesn't help to be ILLOGICAL.

I am very sorry for anyone in this predicament, but "Oh, boo-hoo, I'm sorry for you" doesn't help a lot, either.

I was trying to make some concrete suggestions as to what can be done (public housing, Salvation Army) as well as suggestions on what we've done in the past to keep it from happening to us. You see, my parents lived through the Depression, so I've always been super-cautious. Cory is just starting out his life, so I thought maybe he could benefit from some of what was instilled into me.

I had these things drilled into me by Depression-era parents. Dad never trusted the stock market. My mother was very good at making do. $80 a month for groceries was her allotment.

"Making do" is sort of out of fashion in our credit card world now, but we have to get back to it to prevent the bankers from totally owning us. They already have a lot of our money. We need to keep them from getting even more of it. These are hard facts. Sure it could be me, and, sure, I'm glad it isn't. But I've had some hard times, too, so the compassion is definitely there. I can relate.

"All a person wants is compassion." Well, I'm used to helping people with solutions. I do have compassion, but I have a practical, "Hey, let's see what we can do" sort of mentality, but if it isn't appreciated, I can just post, "Oh, I'm so sorry," and forget the rest. Or maybe just skip this type of thread entirely in the future.

[pnwmom]

39. How do you know there are affordable places to live for a family

with a couple of almost minimum wage earners? And in many places, public housing isn't an option at all.

[WatchWhatISay]

43. how kind of you to offer a lecture

[Knight Hawk]

44. You are right

I have made many sacrifices over the years to survive.I lived in my office for 5 years following a divorce.You have to what you have to do but always think ahead as much as possible.

[Texasgal]

45. You are very rude.

First off.. How do you know that Corey and his family live above what they can afford?

Second... there are MANY,MANY families that are a paycheck away from devastation! Get your head out of the clouds and learn something.

[truedelphi]

75. Public housing in some areas of our nation has

Not exactly ended, but is closed... This means that while you can put your name and your family's name on a list, it doesn't guarantee that you will be offered housing for YEARS!

And for some people, they are already paying as little as they can afford to pay. I heard the same thing from various "friends" two years ago when we were in such awful shakes.

Sure, we could have moved somewhere cheaper, where there wasn't any working utilities, and then what? Eaten out all the time?

Or there is always a move to a rougher neighborhood, where when we left the house, our computer and other tools for our life would be stolen.

Get real. If you wanna talk about this - go over to a community center in any area where the jobless rate is over twelve per cent.
Once you are there, talk to some of our nation's social workers, that is, to those of our nation's social workers that have not yet been laid off.

You might be surprised as what awful straits the Paulson/BernankeGeithenr economic fix for "the Too Big To Fail" crowd has 'accomplished' for this country. It's been great for banks, but not so great for working class people.

[TicketyBoo]

112. I have known families here

who paid as little as $16 per month for a three-bedroom house under public housing. (Public housing rents here are based on income and family size.)

I have been in a very bad situation when my husband was permanently injured at the age of 30. It was his misfortune to be injured on the very day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated. It took six years for him to get Social Security Disability benefits, suffering one denial after another. We went through some very hard times. At the time, my father was in a nursing home, dying from Alzheimer's disease. I hadn't worked in years, but I went back into the workforce and found a minimum-wage job that gave me 35 hours a week with no benefits.

We did what we had to do to survive. You do get through it, somehow. We ate a lot of macaroni and meatloaf. I thought that maybe some practical advice on how to get along could be helpful here. Instead, I got accused of having no compassion and being a REPUBLICAN in disguise.

Absolutely revolting.

[truedelphi]

125. I have friends using Public Housing also

It took them years to get on it.

Corey's family along with other families like them didn't get on Public Housing. They didn't know some six years ago that things would be this bad. If everyone in their shoes had put their names on a list six years ago - the Public Housing option would have been exhausted in their area.

I am sorry that you went through what you went through those years ago. I am glad that you foudn and took the low paying job you were offered. But right now, there are not many jobs. And right now, if you're poor, your chances of getting work are even worse, because almost every employer now runs credit checks.
It wasn't like that everywhere all the time in the Reagan era, simply because we weren't such a Big Brother-styled society.

[deaniac21]

27. Just sounds made up to me.

[AllieB]

78. You obviously don't know the working poor.

And if you really were a 'deaniac' like you claim to be, I think you'd have a little more compassion that what you've exhibited on DU. :eyes:

[Corey_Baker08]

101. Our Rent is $590 a Month For A Two Bedroom 1 Bath House With No Garage or Yard....

I live in one of the most high class redneck counties in the state where the cost of living is expensive even though the wages of jobs around here are dismal. My Mom has busted her ass at a factory since I can remember working 40 even 50 hours a week. My dad was a temporary making less money than her at a factory working a full week just to be broke at the end of the week.

When it comes down to not having food or not having water or electric in your house, what is the point in having a house. My parents to their absolute best to prioritze the situation and you know what some months its been 'we can either pay the landlord and sit here with no electric for the month or we can pay the electric company who dont negotiate with ya and try to talk the landlord into letting us slide for a couple weeks, well by the time a couple weeks was up when they had the money saved up a week later another months rent was do.

I will say it was a fair question although it may have came out as an asshole question!

:hi:

[Electric Monk]

102. k&R best of luck to you Corey, sorry I can't do much else

You seem to be pretty smart, I hope you find a way to hang in there.

[Autumn]

11. I remember you from back then,

it was so great to see such a young person getting into their first taste of politics. :hug: I'm sorry things have gotten so bad for you, and your family. So many people are suffering now.

[Mass]

12. I'm so sorry. I hope the winds turn soon for you and your family.\nt

[Fumesucker]

13. Are you getting food stamps?

If not, you should be..

I have a post up about my experience applying for (and getting) food stamps.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6561846

Best of luck to you and your family, I hope things work out for you.

[newspeak]

17. I know it may be a fraction of what your parents may be making now

but how about unemployment? And, does Ohio have a federal housing program? My daughter and her infant son qualified for an apartment based upon income some time ago. We lived in a beautiful smaller town and the apartment complex was well maintained and in a nice area.

Also, I'm with the above poster--contact your senator and tell him your story. He may be able to help in some way, and it will validate what's happening to main street in this country, instead of wall street.

[ceile]

18. So sorry Corey.

I wish I could help out.....

[MissHoneychurch]

19. Corey, you have my deepest sympathies

:hug:

Unfortunately I can't help you with me living in Germany. But be assured that we are always here to at least listen to you :hug: And I know that other DUers will be able to help you and are giving you good advices.

[LeftHander]

21. GOP: you can still afford a healthcare plan....300-400/month...

Sell some things. Trim back on eating...personal responsibility you know.

[mike_c]

22. best wishes for you and your family, my friend....

You're right-- this is not the America I grew up in. It had poverty too, of course, but today we're seeing the systemic collapse of the working and middle classes. People need to wake up and take action before it is too late. Unregulated, free market capitalism is failing before our eyes-- or perhaps it's succeeding, depending upon your perspective.

[elizfeelinggreat]

23. k & r

:hug:

[RT Atlanta]

24. Godspeed Corey!

Something positive will come about - is moving an option? do you have family/friends in town, or other towns, where you can move for other opportunities? Have you written your state/local representatives to make them aware of what your family is going through? they need to know.

For your house lease - were you current in rent payments to the time of the notice? Regardless, does your state law require longer notice times? You can likely check If so, what does your state's law provide? I find this on a quick google search for "ohio landlord tenant act"

http://www.cohhio.org/pdf/Know_Your_Tenants_Rights.pdf

There could be some things in there you can use to forestall the eviction.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. Don't give up, and no I am not offering prayers

I do what I can to try to change this back ass system.

Oh and do contact social services your parents should be able to qualify for unemployment.

And my deepest sympathies.

[mdmc]

32. you are not alone my friend

peace and low stress..

[Joe Fields]

34. Been exactly where you're at, man. Don't ever give up hope.

Believe it or not, if you try hard enough, things have a way of working out.

[Corey_Baker08]

109. I Believe You Thank-You For That Sometimes Its What U Need To Hear! n/t

[renate]

37. it's NOT FAIR

I'm so sorry. You must feel as though the world is crashing around you.

BR_Parkway is just one example--a sweet, wonderful example--of the help that is out there, if you can find it, which isn't always easy.

I would bet that if one church doesn't help you out, another will. I'm not a fan of organized religion per se, but every once in a while you'll find people who really put their money (and time and energy) where their mouth is. For example, my mom volunteers to help (mostly) women who are leaving violent homes, and she says that the St. Vincent de Paul outreach in her town is absolutely fantastic, and doesn't ask what religion a person is or preach or anything.

Can you look into subsidized housing? Even if your parents aren't working now, they have a good solid work history--I wonder whether that counts for anything.

Good luck and please keep us updated. You are a strong person but it really stinks that you and your family are being tested this way--it's just not fair.

:hug:

[twitomy]

40. As others have mentioned, you and your family should be eligible

For various forms of assistance. Food Stamps, section 8 housing, etc. Seek it out. Assuming you have graduated from high school, are you attending post-secondary school? You should be eligible for grants. You dont want to find yourself with little marketable skills. You now know the future of factory work. Of course getting an education does not gaurentee you a decent job, but it does help the odds considerably. Hang tough.

[debbierlus]

41. I am so sorry for your rough time. Having been through these waters, here are a few thoughts

First, take a breath. As hopeless as things can seem at times like these, this is not the definition of how your whole life will be from now on. Your family is in crisis. Be loving with each other and gentle with yourself. Allow yourself to feel all your feelings and don't judge them. Talk with friends, vent, and find a physical outlet for the anger you are bound to feel. A walk or run is free, and it can do wonders not only to clear your mind but make you feel more positive and give you energy to confront these tough circumstances.

Take action NOW to prevent things from getting any worse. Contact your landlord and let them know the circumstances that have led you to be unable to keep up with your rent. Be proactive. Your mother should be eligible for unemployment, even if your dad's has run out (and the Senate extended benefits today as well). Figure out what income you will have coming in and see if you can work out a emergency payment plan with your landlord.

Also, research what type of assistance is available in your state for people in your situation. I know in MA, there is a program to help people stay in their homes when faced with emergency situations such as this...I don't know if your state has a similiar program. Apply for every assistance you are eligible for through the state (this varies so widely).

Also, as others have suggested, contact church and charity groups.

You sound eligible for federal fuel assistance programs, definitely submit an application to the program.

Go to the closest welfare office and find out what your family is eligible for...they also will have material on available programs in your area.

Good luck.

[closeupready]

42. Sorry to hear about this. Marcy Kaptur represents part of Ohio, doesn't she?

She's terrific - I'd try contacting her office ASAP, if I were you, and see if she has any advice.

Good luck to you and your family, Corey! :hug:

[1776Forever]

46. Hi Corey - I have a few suggestions....

If your father is a veteran go to the local VA office and see what they can do. We came from Florida last year to Ohio and we got a lot of help from our local VA office here. They have funds to do this so you should see them as soon as you can. If he is not a Veteran then find out if your Salvation Army might be able to help some.

I know how hard it is to get help when you are all adults with no minor children. Our 38-year-old son became chronically ill 5 years ago and everything we could possible do for him we did. It took all our savings and then when times got really tough a couple of years ago I couldn't find a job and his step-dad only had a part-time one and that wasn't enough so we lost our home. We are doing better now so don't give up hope. There is a future but it doesn't help much when you don't know what might happen tomorrow. Just try to keep your options open and if you have to move where family could help do so. This is not easy I know but it may be the best option you have right now.

You can also look into a Pell Grant that would help you go to a 2-year college and they give you a little more money then you have to pay for the school with so that might help some also for a little while.

Best of luck to you and your family!

[demwing]

53. Grants are great, but don't refinance your debt

with student loans. You'll end up thousands of dollars in debt on a loan that NEVER goes away. Plus, if your only motivation for getting the student loan is to pay rent, you wont get as much-if anything-out of your education.

Don't create student loan debt unless you really want to get the degree. I implore you, it will haunt you as it does me.

[BeHereNow]

47. Sorry but NASA is spending 79 million dollars to shit on the moon...

While your family and so many others are losing everything.
The most pathetic thing about DU to me right now is no one is
talking about the cost of the moon debacle, while families like yours are
suffering all over the country.
At least you have a loving family and it sounds as if you will stick together
no matter what- that's more than many people can ever hope for.

Hugs,
BHN

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. Listen to reaosn... no I don't expect it

the cost of the moon mission is nothing... in the national budget.

Now if you want to talk to me about the cost of a SINGLE day in Afghanistan, I am all ears

Science is important, even if that is bothersome.

[BeHereNow]

55. The cost of empire is everything-

We have got the government we deserve.
I see no difference in the raping of the planet, the endless military spending
and now, that hand of greed and violation reaching into space, while all living
creatures are suffering and paying for the mindless quest for power by the very few
in power.

We have NO right to violate nature.
Period.

For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction.
Science.

BHN

[nadinbrzezinski]

72. We should not have spent a dime on the Salk vaccine either

or for that matter other basic science.


I get it, lets go back to the 10th century. I know plenty of church fearing muricans that agree with that part of the sentiment, not the lets stop empire part, but the sciency stuff. like yesterday.

Oh and on edit, you are aware that the moon gets bombarded every day?

You are also aware that missions like this one, we are actually late to the party?

Definitely the anti science is just down right amazing.

[BeHereNow]

82. You KNOW I love you and have for years-

I am not anti-science; I am anti CORPORATE.
I think there are FAR more pressing matters here on earth
and I can imagine the corporate profiteers laughing all the
way to the bank on this NASA debacle.

Water on the moon? And HOW does that help with the shit
we are going through here on earth???

Are the pipeline contractors cuing up to construct conduits
to transport water from the moon or what?

BHN

[nadinbrzezinski]

84. NASA is not a corporation, they are doing basic research

basic research may not seem obvious to you. But I stand by what I said... we should not have done the Salk Vaccine.

This is not the militarization of space. That is happening, but this is not it. This is BASIC Research, the kind that SOME DAY may lead to colonies on the moon.

IF the species is to survive, we need to spread to first the solar system and finally other solar systems.

That starts with silly shit like this.

[BeHereNow]

85. Until we can manage our own backyard, I don't think we have any business in space.

We've fucked this planet up beyond belief, so now we want to extend the damage
our species has done here to space?
I just can't get behind that one.
Not with the world we have on fire, thanks to US.
You have to admit what I have said before,
WE are the ONLY species that SHITS in our own nest.
As time goes by, I think the mother will have no choice but
to shake us off like the bag of fleas that we are.
I certainly hope so for sake of the other living creatures on the planet.

BHN

[nadinbrzezinski]

86. The mother will do nothing

if humanity goes extinct it will be for many possible scenarios.

I am not that spiritual nor hold any of that thinking.

As to learning how to handle resources... well the dark side of the magical thinking is precisely what is leading to global warning and other environmental disasters... see dominion over the land and the air is the dark side of magical thinking.

I will repeat this, in the view of some we should have never done any basic research... well I am not of that school.

Oh and we are not the only species that fouls the nest.

[defendandprotect]

52. Is that what this little moon adventure is costing? -- !!!!!

[BeHereNow]

57. Yes. It is an abomination when you consider the suffering on this planet.

Imagine what that money COULD be used for.
There is so much suffering here on earth, and yet
we have 79 million dollars to spend exploring the moon for water???
Fuck us, we deserve it.
BHN

[defendandprotect]

61. Astonishing -- !!! Stuff like this, Obama should be stopping . . .

This looks to me like just some more paranoid military stuff --

militarization of the skies --

Thanks!


Disgusting!

[BeHereNow]

63. Well, given that Cory's story is increasingly the story in the US, I find it hard

to find any justification for this type of spending-
Guess Obama thinks more military space projects are more important
than the well being of life on earth.
Apparently, many DUers agree.
Science over people.
BHN

[defendandprotect]

93. Look at how long we've had Reagan's homeless and now Bush's homeless....!!

[winyanstaz]

89. I am one that was angry that we are spending so much on polluting and blowing up the moon...

while Americans are on the street. You wouldnt believe how bad I was blasted for it too.
All that aside...Corey...find out if there is a local food bank. It will save you money if there is one and make sure there is still some food in the house.
An eviction notice can put you on the top of the housing help lists but only if you have a small child..however you might want to look into the costs of getting a small trailor house perhaps or a small travel trailer? At least you would have beds and warmth and a stove.
You can shower at state parks for about a buck fifty in quarters.
I wish I could do more but we are in the same boat here...my two sons and I (I am retired senior now on a pension) have to roommate together because even though we all worked hard..we dont make enough to live individually on our own..due to layoffs and high credit card interest. It would only take one emergency to put us on the street right now.
It is rough in America right now..and little is being done to keep people in their homes nor are jobs being created that are paying enough to make the rent.
It may well be worse before it gets better but sooner or later...this mess will have to change..just hang in there Corey..and never give up!
I have been worse off then I am now..at one time I was a working single mom..homeless and escaping a batterer with three kids and that was a tough time then too. Things can get better...just never..never ever give up.

[mistertrickster]

95. 79 million is a lot . . . but not anywhere close to what the nation spends on the military.

51 percent of all income taxes go to fund the US military.

We spend more on our military than all the other militaries in the world combined.

We've spent 3 TRILLION in Iraq alone, and the RepubliCONs are bitchin' about 800 billion for health care over 10 years.

It's a travesty and wholly unsustainable.

[demwing]

49. Cory - Help your family apply for food stamps immediately

here's the Ohio State Website for FoodStamps:

http://jfs.ohio.gov/ofam/cmandfsa.stm

Also enquire about TANF (Temporary Aid for Needy Familes, which is emergency cash assistance for families with children). You may not qualify, unless there is a minor child in the house, but they may be able to provide a list of local groups willing to help you and other families in need.

Recently, in a similar situation, I followed the same steps in Florida, a notoriously tight state, and received food stamps within a week, cash aid within a month, and a $150 voucher to pay the electric bill, all from the state. I also was directed to a local charirty that gave us the funds to pay a months rent.

Start tomorrow, everyday you wait is another day without help.

[Corey_Baker08]

107. Will Do Thanks For The Link....

:hi: :hug:

[Unrepentant Fenian]

54. Not to be rude, but...

Not to be rude, but did your parents give up the heat (gas) in favor of keeping the internet hooked up?

[Whisp]

59. yes, that was rude.

besides assholish

[Unrepentant Fenian]

64. Really ? I think it was a fair question.

It seems that even when both parents and the son were working, they still couldn't afford to heat the house. I know if it were me, I'd cut off the internet (use free computer at library), cable tv (use rabbit ears, get local channels), anything to keep the heat on. But that's just me. Having heat will save your life, the internet won't.

[Whisp]

68. here's a fair question to you.

are you the internet police? do you think the same of phones, heat, buying needed new clothes.
or maybe you should check his refrigerator out to see if whats in there passes your approval test of what hardship really is or isnt', seeing as you seem to fucking know it all with that yardstick measuring everying except how big a deep asshole you are

[Unrepentant Fenian]

73. No

[MrMickeysMom]

79. Use some common sense...

This young fellow may not even be posting from his home. He well may be going to a public library to use the internet. Not exactly a high post count.

You are one dimensional and should probably go back to your hobby of target shooting...

[DollyM]

96. sometimes Internet is a life saver!

We gave up cable and a land line phone to cute expenses after job losses but kept the Internet because it is the cheapest way to stay connected with the things we need like job searches (going to the library uses gas for the car which isn't cheap)I applied for food stamps online (again, did not have to drive to an out of town Public Aid office)I sell on ebay and have a web site which brings in a little money, I pay bills on line and do my banking online, also saving gas and stamps. Since we don't have a land line phone, we have trac phones but that uses minutes so using email is "free" and I can keep in touch with just about anyone without the cost of a phone call. There are no jobs locally anymore so we use the Internet to search for jobs online. We couldn't do that any other way. We use daily updates from Career Builder and I am not going to run to the library everyday and try to do this, especially since our library has a 30 minute time limit on Internet use, IF you can even get on without having to wait for others to get off the computer. Since we don't have cable, we get our news from the Internet including world and local news. So the Internet is much more of a neccesity than you realize because it keeps you connected with the world and saves on the cost of fuel to get the necessary things that we need.

[Unrepentant Fenian]

114. You're right, but heat has probably saved more lives.

[DollyM]

126. we keep our heat set at 55 in the winter

We have a wood burning stove and have cut down several dying trees on our property and that has helped immensely in keeping the house warm. We use electric blankets as well. Our utility company just trippled their rates last year so many of us are looking an alternatives in heating sources.
(I didn't mean a literal lifesaver anyway . . . geeze!)

[MrMickeysMom]

60. No, you wouldn' t mean to be that...

... you jackass

[Unrepentant Fenian]

65. Name calling, cool!

[BeHereNow]

66. No need to call it- you revealed it yourself most effectively. N/T

bhn

[Unrepentant Fenian]

70. For some people, I have to be obvious. Surprised you caught it !

[MrMickeysMom]

76. Hell of alot better than YOUR observation

[BeHereNow]

62. How do you know Cory is not using the library to surf the net?

It's free there.
And I would ask you, did you use your brain before posting?

BHN

[Unrepentant Fenian]

67. I don't. That's why I asked the question. Get it?

[BeHereNow]

69. You should be ashamed. But clearly you are not.

I will not waste another minute in the company of such a fool as you
have shown yourself to be.
Post away, but do not expect another reply from me.

BHN

[Unrepentant Fenian]

71. Thanks, that's the best news I've heard all day. Bye

[MrMickeysMom]

80. Yes, bye, indeed

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

87. First off the young man works.

And as you know all work places these days have computers. The poster has friends ,all of whom no doubt have computers. A phone is essential to finding work, if you have a hard line, you can find free internet service. You must be some kind of a recluse or very closed minded to view the mans post as some kind of a lie.

Heating bills are stretched out across the year in states where hard winters are at the very least six months .It does not take long in states like New York ,Ohio, Pa. Mass. Vermont, Conn. DC, Maine, Montana , Colorado ,to run up a bill for heating. Because both parents work, they are not eligible for assistance or reduced rates. You have no clue how it would be to be cut off by yer heating fule supplier in cold country.

You were born with a cold suspicious heart,go and see the wizard of Oz and get yerself a fake one.

Moving away from where the jobs have all dried up as president Obama once put it ,is not a easy thing to do when you have roots deeply embedded in a place. When you have parents or even grand parents buried in the place you were raised. This brave young person is helping out the family. And found the courage to write about it.,thinking of his parents,not himself.

Go now you who were born with a cold cruel heart ,go and see the wizard of OZ and ask him fer a fake one, so that you can at least make yerself out to seem as though you have one.

Corry, you keep the faith, it shall work out.

[Unrepentant Fenian]

90. Dear Scarecrow, I made NO assumptions, I asked a question. Signed, the Lion

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

116. Very good than lion

I see you were asking a question. The point being ,internet connections are evrywhere .One need not look too far too long to find a place with a computer with a internet connection to use.That to me would seem like a no brainer question.

Now you know he used his grandmothers computer.

It was the fallow up posts and comments that caught my eye.

But when you think about it, I mean really, how much is high speed internet or cable?

Than eithernet ?

than dial up ?

Than cable tv ?

Than factor in eviction notice.

see what I mean ,

no brainer, the luxuries were gone for quite some time ,thats if I can read.

none the less the question occured to you

and so it was raised.

I see it as a question now

signed scarecrow !

[Corey_Baker08]

99. To Answer Your Question Which Was Nothing More Than an Assumption....

I do not have an internet connection or for that matter a computer at my home. I spend alot of time with my elderly grandma in her house she has a computer (its a dinosaur) and an internet connection though she rarely uses it.

Our heating bill is near $600, with little to no income and rent and water to worry about we can boil water on the stove to take baths, we can heat the house poorly with a kerosene heater, I would disagree with you that heat is the most important thing. I believe having a roof over our heads and being able to flush our toilet is the most important things followed by food.

[Unrepentant Fenian]

111. I didn't assume anything...

I didn't assume anything, I asked a question. Just like I never assumed that you were using your Grandmother's computer. And to be fair, I said that I think heat is more important than having the internet. You assumed I thought it was the most important thing. Just re-read my post, you'll see.

As to your situation, I honestly hope it improves soon. It sounds like you and your family have adapted to an already tough situation. I don't know how, but I think you all will find a way to get through this together. I hope you do. And again, I didn't intend to come off as rude, it was an honest question.

[Corey_Baker08]

113. To Be Honest As I Re-Read Your Post I Understood Your Question....

Also I understand that your intent was not to be rude your intent was to ask me where our priorities where. It is completely understandable what you were asking and I hope my reply answered your question to the best of my ability.
I think some people might have jumped the gun in calling you rude you were just asking a question.

My apologies if my reply offended you I honestly believe you hope for the best for me and my family as I do for you and yours!

Take Care :hi:

Corey Baker

[Unrepentant Fenian]

115. Corey, Thanks...

I appreciate your saying that. Your reply wasn't offensive in the least, I hope nothing I posted was offensive to you. I really don't care about the others jumping all over me, but I did feel bad when I realized that I might have offended you. You take care of yourself mate.
Thanks,
Ed

[defendandprotect]

56. Corey -- as so many know, this shouldn't be happening --

it's a nightmare in America --

Hope that something positive will happen for you and your family --

Obama has to get jobs programs going --

That's the help that people need --

We also need a return to much more extensive unemployment benefits --

and more assistance for families suffering now.

[MrMickeysMom]

58. How I wish I could help...

But, what I'm seeing here is such reaching out from your community. Let me be one more who sends you hope.

No doubt you are the product of your loving parents. :grouphug:

[samplegirl]

74. Ohio is not a good place to be

but it is still home to some of us. It's just heartbreaking to hear yet another Ohio story like this. Ohio has been hit so hard. I really don't have much advice as I am from Ohio as well and everyday hanging on to the hope that my husband will have a job daily.
I wonder how much worse it will get before Democrats stand up and start their own rallies to make our voices heard.
If not for my husbands job...and near impossibility to sell my home here in Ohio I would relocate out of the godforsaken place which has been home all my life.
I wish you and your family the best. I hope you will all be able to find employment soon.

[graywarrior]

81. Jesus, what a sad, disappointing situation to be in.

I'd give anything to find a solution for you and I hope the awesome DU'rs who offered some help can come through for you and your parents.

One thing I must mention is that you are an incredible writer. I hope you do something with that gift. I will send out good vibes to your and your family. Keep us posted on what happens, Corey.

[BeHereNow]

83. Agree with you on the posters writing talent... hope you pursue that Corey!

Not that anyone in America reads, but there are other markets!
BHN

[Corey_Baker08]

103. LOL Thank You That Is Really Cool- My dream is To Be Governor of Ohio Someday....

:hi:

[graywarrior]

121. Well then, you're an excellent communicator for that job.

[mistertrickster]

92. Has your family considered moving? Particularly since you're not locked into a mortgage,

you could pull up stakes pretty easily.

West of the Mississippi, there are still plenty of 10 dollar an hour jobs to be had. Check this link for instance: http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?IPath=QHKCV&ff=21&APath=2.21.0.0.0&job_did=J3G4B576CLR8R0L7X50&cbRecursionCnt=1&cbsid=
e8ab98947a1241c498574bfb04d89a4e-308369516-J6-5

Places like Kansas City, Kansas and Grand Island, Nebraska aren't on the tourist circuit, but they have low cost of living and plenty of jobs -- although the pay is pretty average.

[ConnorMarc]

94. The Saddest Part Of This Story Is

How barely NONE of us are ABLE to help out.

Lord knows we sure would LOVE to help out.

I think most of us are barely trying to hang on for dear life ourselves.

I know I am.

Got laid off from my job in August, just got a new job 3 weeks ago...and I'M considered lucky. Which I realize, but I still had to borrow some money from a good friend just this week to make it to next paycheck to pay for gas to get to and from work and have a little food to eat.

There are tons, and tons, and tons of people smarter, more educated and more articulate than me that are UNEMPLOYED, desperately looking for work.

The whole country is in a mess...and it ain't Obama's fault. Anyway, that's besides the point.

Poster, all I have for you are my prayes and my sympathies. It makes me smile from the inside out to know there are posters here that can and were willing to help.

We still have HOPE...thats for certain.

The liberals, Dems and progressives need to rise up and let their voiced be heard. A thought hit me today that we could at least start a YouTube Revolution, just have people start creating videos expressing their NEED for a Public Option with no limitations, no comprimise and perhaps even including their own personal stories to go along with it like yours Corey.

Damn the media...damn them to HECK! They are dying and good riddance to them, NBC, CBS, ABC...I SPIT on them openly...they are all in the pockets of Big Pharma...damn the print media too like The New York Times, USA Today, Washington Post et all...I hope they die swiftly and violently (not literally the writers) but you get my meaning.

Let our voices be HEARD!

*gets off my ranty box*

Good luck Corey, you sound like you will make it.

Sincerely,
Marc R. Connor

[Corey_Baker08]

104. The Thing About Us Democrats Is We All Look Out For Each Other- If I had The Ability I would Help U!

Just as I know you would help me!

Good Luck To You and Yours I wish You The Absolute Best Of Luck- Its hard times for everyone just know that we are not alone in this fight!

[Iwillnevergiveup]

97. Thanks for posting, Corey

I feel certain that help is on the way for you and your family. Your parents have done a fine job of raising a wonderful young man.

K&R

[Corey_Baker08]

105. Thank-You Giving Up Is Never an Option Anything Is Possible in This Country!!!

[Corey_Baker08]

106. I Wish I Could Personally Reply To All Of You......

You will never know how encouraging and inspiring it is to me to hear all of these good positive thoughts and to have so many recs for my thread is unbelievable.


We Democrats are the best, we look out for each other, when one of us falls another is there to pick us back up. Just when we think its the worst it could be your level headedness kicks in and you realize that there are alot of other people not only in your predicament but some even in a worse predicament.

To all of you who are facing the same struggles my family is right now, thank-you for your kindness and know that good things do happen to good people, do not give up, do not falter,and you will never fail!

Thank You All So Very Much!!!

:hug:

[Iwillnevergiveup]

108. Keepin' this kicked - n/t

[hfojvt]

120. about boiling water for baths

One method I use for bathing when I have no hot water, is the local pool. For $2 at our community center you can get a hot shower and a swim. Granted, I only shower about twice a week, but it beats a bunch of boiling (if you can spare the $2 of course).

As far as these things go, both of your parents should be eligible for unemployment, and also things like food stamps and tanf. Contact social services for the county.

For housing, I do not know what you can do. I'd be turning to family. My parents and siblings all have housing and space, and if they needed it, I would have space for them too. Otherwise trying to scrape together first month's rent and a damage deposit seems impossible. You might ask at the Red Cross or the Salvation Army, but I do not know what either of those do for the homeless, and there are not lots of shelters around.

[Corey_Baker08]

128. good advice thanks will do!!!

[Christa]

122. Kicked. nt

[Desertrose]

123. So sorry to hear about this.....

wish I could help but I'm hanging on by a thread myself, like so many others here.

Stay positive as much as possible, Corey. I have a feeling things will work out.

:hug: DR