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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:21 PM
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IBM CEO Palmisano on Single Payer
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091006-708860.html

By Peter Loftus
The Wall Street Journal
October 6, 2009

"The chief executive of International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) sees a huge business opportunity in making the U.S. health-care system more efficient.

(Sam) Palmisano sees IBM providing everything from electronic-health records technology to ultra-tiny personal devices that read DNA and cost less than $1,000. He likened those technologies to health-care equivalents of universal bar-codes in the retail industry, which made that industry more efficient.

But Palmisano acknowledged that single-payer, government health systems outside the U.S. make it easier to use technology for health-information sharing, because health information is more centralized.

“The advantage of a government payer or centralized system is they can begin to create incentives for change much more so than you can in a fragmented model,” he said.

He said the federal government could save itself $900 billion over 10 years in health-care spending by simply managing it better."


Comment by Dr. McCanne of PNHP

http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/10/07/ibm-ceo-palmisano-on-single-payer/

"So IBM CEO Sam Palmisano says that single payer, government health systems have an advantage over fragmented systems (like ours in the U.S.) since they can create incentives for change. That seems counter to those who claim (falsely) that government systems suppress innovation.

He also states that the federal government could manage health care spending better (as Medicare and the VA have done).

Wow! Welcome aboard!"



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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:29 PM
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1. I wish I trusted IBM more. I wonder if this health care records keeping
and DNA readings are anything like the census data their equipment collected in Germany in 1930-40s?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:53 PM
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5. It just makes sense that a fragmented system is more expensive...
to operate, many countries have centralised record keeping now.

:shrug:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:16 AM
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9. I know and I guess that it will be okay. Just tired.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:40 AM
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14. Never let your guard down :))) n/t
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:38 PM
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2. So the $900 billion over 10 years saved
is about how much the new plan will cost.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:54 PM
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6. Yes, if the figure is accurate. n/t
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:38 PM
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3. IBM's 'concern' about health insurance - much irony given their monopoly antitrust issues

greed in any industry is unbecoming
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:57 PM
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7. It was just a statement that a fragmented system is more costly, also when ...
there is data on the entire system it is easier, as he says, to create incentives for change.



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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:48 PM
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4. It is simply an economic opportunity for IBM, nothing more
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:58 PM
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8. But it is more of an economic opportunity in a fragmented system. n/t
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 11:59 PM by slipslidingaway
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:20 AM
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10. +1 where some see potential for health benefits, other see profits as high as the sky
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:25 AM
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11. Yes - BUT doesn't this counter the repigs argument how healthcare reform is going to hurt their
precious corporations?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:29 AM
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12. IBM is information technology not healthcare
THEY simply want to be the conduit for the information and the MILLIONS of new customers in the system.

He who develops the Medi-Alert necklace records chip rules the industry.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:40 AM
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13. I look at it different - if corporations could see that there is profit for them to be made with
healthcare reform, then maybe they would join in the fight.

If more people are insured there is going to be a need for more medical equipment, id cards, employees, nurses scrubs - on and on and on. It's a win-win situation on so many levels.... and if the corporate giants would wake up and see that they could help us win the debate rather than fight us.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 06:54 PM
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15. Good News! Recommend. nt
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:15 PM
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16. Thanks, IBM should benefit more from a fragmented system, but I'm happy...
he mentioned that it would more costly than a SP system.

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