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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:26 PM
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45,000. 45,000.
That is nearly half the population of my county (I just looked it up). That is the number of people we lose in this country every year for lack of health insurance. Where is my torch and pitchfork? :grr:
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:28 PM
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1. Have a link? n/t
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:33 PM
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7. Check out Keith Olbermann when he comes back on at 10.
That is what he said on his special episode tonight, which is all a special comment on the health care mess in this country.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:43 PM
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10. Listening now
nt
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:04 PM
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20. Have a link?
Have you been paying any attention at all?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:28 PM
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2. That's 3750 people a month...
So, greed is costing us more lives than a 9/11 every month... where is the outrage? Where are the death memorials?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:30 PM
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4. That's one person every 12 minutes.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:48 PM
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13. There's a "Deaths from Smoking" counter on Santa Monica Blvd.
We need one for this... too sad.

Where is the outrage?
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:02 PM
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19. Great idea.
Post one in every Senator and memeber of the House of Representative's office.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:32 PM
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5. Where's the supporting data?
Sorry, I just want a thorough analysis.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:40 PM
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8. It's been all over DU for a month...
And all over progressive radio and TV for as long... where you been?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:42 PM
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9. Read, and weep...
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 07:43 PM by JuniperLea
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/18/deaths.health.insurance/index.html

snip...

Research released this week in the American Journal of Public Health estimates that 45,000 deaths per year in the United States are associated with the lack of health insurance. If a person is uninsured, "it means you're at mortal risk," said one of the authors, Dr. David Himmelstein, an associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.

The researchers examined government health surveys from more than 9,000 people aged 17 to 64, taken from 1986-1994, and then followed up through 2000. They determined that the uninsured have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those with private health insurance as a result of being unable to obtain necessary medical care. The researchers then extrapolated the results to census data from 2005 and calculated there were 44,789 deaths associated with lack of health insurance.


Are the American Journal of Public Health and a professor of medicine at Harvard enough street cred for you?
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:04 PM
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21. Thanks.
No need to get so uptight.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:44 PM
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11. Supporting data - check this out.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:46 PM
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12. the main figure is from the Harvard study released
last week I believe. It has been on nbc msnbc, watch KO at 10 pm repeat he mentions it.

My figures are for Yanceyville, Caswell County, NC. from Wiki, which match the figures I myself had seen at the county courthouse.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:49 PM
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15. This is the first one I saw... back in Sept.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/18/deaths.health.insu...

snip...

Research released this week in the American Journal of Public Health estimates that 45,000 deaths per year in the United States are associated with the lack of health insurance. If a person is uninsured, "it means you're at mortal risk," said one of the authors, Dr. David Himmelstein, an associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.

The researchers examined government health surveys from more than 9,000 people aged 17 to 64, taken from 1986-1994, and then followed up through 2000. They determined that the uninsured have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those with private health insurance as a result of being unable to obtain necessary medical care. The researchers then extrapolated the results to census data from 2005 and calculated there were 44,789 deaths associated with lack of health insurance.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:49 PM
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16. silence
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:52 PM
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18. Our world is so manipulated!
I really hate that this isn't common knowledge!
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:42 PM
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23. for us it is overhelming outrages...for them...the pro lifers it is ecxeptable losses
:cry:


no more war
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:29 PM
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3. Our little town in NC is 2,091, the county As of 2000, the population was 23,501
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 07:42 PM by HillbillyBob
rec to offset teh sob who unrec.
edit to correct numbers and add.

This is a poor county with median income household in town was $20,353.
About 23.3% of families and 27.7% of the population were below the poverty line.


The median income for a household in the county was $35,018, and the median income for a family was $41,905. Males had a median income of $28,968 versus $22,339 for females.

I do not have insurance figures, but you can bet most folks around here do not have any or very little. They cannot afford it.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:59 PM
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22. 26% of the people in my county are uninsured.
And the San Joaquin county is a big county, so that means that almost half of more than a quarter of the people are more likely to die because of lack of health care!

Sick country.

Good to see you by the way Bob.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:33 PM
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6. Americans, for the most part, have become a bunch of passive sheep! n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:48 PM
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14. Keith mentioned that you're actually more likely to die from not having insurance
than you are from smoking cigarettes. :scared:
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:50 PM
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17. Sounds like a lot
as a stand alone number.

:smoke: on the other hand.....
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