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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:27 PM
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In First Lady’s Roots, a Complex Path From Slavery
In 1850, the elderly master of a South Carolina estate took pen in hand and painstakingly divided up his possessions. Among the spinning wheels, scythes, tablecloths and cattle that he bequeathed to his far-flung heirs was a 6-year-old slave girl valued soon afterward at $475.

In his will, she is described simply as the “negro girl Melvinia.” After his death, she was torn away from the people and places she knew and shipped to Georgia. While she was still a teenager, a white man would father her first-born son under circumstances lost in the passage of nearly two centuries.

In the annals of American slavery, this painful story would be utterly unremarkable, save for one reason: This union, consummated some two years before the Civil War, marked the origins of a family line that would extend from rural Georgia, to Birmingham, Ala., to Chicago and, finally, to the White House.

Melvinia Shields, the enslaved and illiterate young girl, and the unknown white man who impregnated her are the great-great-great-grandparents of Michelle Obama, the first lady.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/08/us/politics/08genealogy.html?ref=us
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:35 PM
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1. I'm so glad she is the First Lady
We are really lucky to have her.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:37 PM
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2. I love genealogy. It makes history so much more real to me when I think of
my ancestors who lived through it.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:37 PM
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3. Even though we're about the same age, it's my great grandparents that were slaves
I guess Michelle's people married young or something. Five of my 8 great grandparents were slaves about the same age or a little older than Melvinia -- as opposed to great-great-great-grandparents of Michelle -- and I'm about the same age as Michelle.
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SPedigrees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:57 PM
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9. It's frightening and distressing to think that this was your personal history.
But Michelle's, and your own, circumstances today are testimony that even the most disgraceful chapters of mankind can be reversed.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:13 PM
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13. I'm older than both of you.
Half (8) of my GGGParents who were born about the time of Melvina were enslaved. Maybe your ancestors were a little older at the time of the birth of your direct line.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:23 PM
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14. My parents had me late, and my grand parents had my father late
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 03:25 PM by HamdenRice
I think the norm back then was having kids around 20, but my parents had me closer to 40, as did my grandmother viz my father.

My father was born in 1920, my paternal grandmother and grandfather in the 1890s, and four of my great grandparents were teens or preteens at emancipation, putting their births in the early to mid 1850s.

So it's interesting that several generations of late births put me closer by two generations to slavery than most people my age.

On my mother's side only one great grandparent was a slave here (the rest were from the West Indies or elsewhere), and the story is that he ran away from slavery to Brooklyn.

On edit: You mean GGGparents (great great) or GGparents (Great grandparents)? You mention 8, which would be your great grandparents, not great, great grandparents.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:25 PM
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17. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
I meant 16, but half (8) were enslaved about the time of Melvina Shields. The other 8 were a gumbo of Natives, FPCs and Europeans.

I didn't know anyone who was enslaved. But I have talked to relatives who were children while some of the former enslaved were still alive. She told me great stories about their escape from the plantation. The escape was documented in Freedman Bureaus records, but she gave me details that weren't included in the narrative. She also described the scars on his back.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:36 PM
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19. My Great Grandma was alive until I was in my 30s
Puts it in very sad perspective for me.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:15 PM
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16. Amazing
I'm reminded of the woman who passed a few weeks ago. Her father was born a slave, and she lived to vote for Obama.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:38 PM
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4. k&r
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:39 PM
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5. And in her husband's actions, a complex path back toward it
This time based on economics rather than skin color.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:42 PM
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6. Well, At Least You Did Not Embed A Picture Of Obama With A Hitler Mustache
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:44 PM
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7. I wasn't even thinking of Hitler
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:08 PM
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11. Dag, teh stoopid be painful at times
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 03:09 PM by HamdenRice
Spoken like someone who obviously has no stories passed down in the family about what slavery was like.

Why not give us your best holocaust joke while you're at it.

Fucking moron.

And, btw, that's not an insult, so there's no reason to alert. That was a perfectly accurate and objective description of any jackass who would compare slavery to anything likely to occur under the Obama administration.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:08 PM
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12. Forgive my ignorance but I have no idea how your words have anything to do with the op?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:37 PM
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15. I don't care about the first lady (this or any other one)
I don't care about the first kids or the first dog.

I don't care how the President looks or what he likes to eat any other such human interest bullshit.

Obama is selling out America and particularly those who put him in office.

If that changes, it's news.

The rest isn't fit to print.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:34 PM
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18. Well, I guess that's all there is to be said about that. Bye. nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:42 PM
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20. So long.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:54 PM
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22. We should close our eyes and put our fingers in our ears
and forget that slavery ever happened.

Let's not think about the significance of it.

You can go back to ranting on an internet message board now.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:50 PM
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23. then why click on this thread?
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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 02:50 PM
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8. We have 32
great-great-great-grandparents. I'll bet there are some more interesting stories in Michelle's background (as in most of our backgrounds).
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:03 PM
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10. your right...utterly remarkable .....proof that justice can sometimes be achieved
even if it takes a couple of centuries for it to occur.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:49 PM
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21. K & R. Great article. People should go read the entire thing.
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