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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:06 AM
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Beck dishes it out but can't take it!!!
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 08:11 AM by styersc
Blog outs Beck's Attempt to Quash Satire that makes a fool of Beck and his Inuendo Based Attacks on Political Opponenets.

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/10/beck_tries_to_kill_parody_webs.php
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I don't know if you've ever seen the Did Glenn Beck Rape and Murder a Young Girl in 1990 website, but it's fairly amusing. It's a political satire of the style of argument Glenn Beck likes to engage in, which involves requiring that someone prove a negative ("prove you didn't do X") and making claims in the form of an interrogative ("Hey, I'm just asking questions here. I'm not saying he did this. What's wrong with asking questions?").

Well now Beck is trying to kill the site by making a formal complaint (PDF) to an international internet governing body, the World Intellectual Property Organization. He wants the domain name taken away from the person who registered it.

Why would he do that rather than file, say, a libel suit? Because he knows he would lose a libel suit. He is a public figure and the site is clearly satirical. Under precedents like Falwell v Flynt, it is virtually impossible to win such a suit. The attorney for the site owner, Marc Randazza, has filed a response brief (PDF) that is hilarious in its attack on Beck's thin-skinned and legally dubious argument. For instance, on the notion that someone might think the site was serious or that it was affiliated with Beck himself, he responds:

There is no indication that the Respondent has intentionally attempted to confuse anyone searching for Mr. Beck's own website, nor that anyone was unintentionally confused - even initially. Only an abject imbecile could believe that the domain name would have any connection to the Complainant.

We are not here because the domain name could cause confusion. We do not have a declaration from the president of the international association of imbeciles that his members are blankly staring at the Respondent's website wondering "where did all the race baiting content go?" We are here because Mr. Beck wants Respondent's website shut down. He wants it shut down because Respondent's website makes a poignant and accurate satirical critique of Mr. Beck by parodying Beck's very rhetorical style. Beck's skin is too thin to take the criticism, so he wants the site down. Beck is represented by a learned and respected legal team. Accordingly, it is beyond doubt that his counsel advised him that under the First Amendment to the United States' Constitution, no action in a U.S. Court would be successful. Accordingly, Beck is attempting to use this transnational body to circumvent and subvert the Respondent's constitutional rights.

That's brilliant. I like this lawyer. He also includes examples of Beck using exactly the same rhetorical techniques. For example, in questioning Muslim legislator Keith Ellison, Beck said:
"No offense and I know Muslims, I like Muslims, I've been to mosques, I really don't think Islam is a religion of evil. I think it's being hijacked, quite frankly. With that being said, you are a Democrat. You are saying let's cut and run. And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview because what I feel like saying is, sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies. And I know you're not. I'm not accusing you of being an enemy. But that's the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way."

And an analog from the website in question:
"Why won't Glenn Beck deny these allegations? We're not accusing Glenn Beck of raping and murdering a young girl in 1990 -- in fact, we think he didn't! But we can't help but wonder, since he has failed to deny these horrible allegations. Why won't he deny that he raped and killed a young girl in 1990?"

Randazzo says that the owner of the website "has merely presented Mr. Beck with a mirror. If Beck does not like what he sees, the Respondent is not to blame." Seems reasonable to me.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:12 AM
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1. I hate to wish for anyone's on-air meltdown.....
...... but I would get a tub of popcorn and a 2-liter of Mountain Dew to watch him blow a gasket and fall to pieces on-air.

:popcorn: :beer:



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hypocrisyandlies Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:39 AM
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8. He has weekly on air meltdowns...
GET OFF MY PHONE!!!!!
:rofl:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:16 AM
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2. I cry for this poor man
Maybe I should take the Vicks Vapor Rub off my eye brows and upper cheek areas?
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:19 AM
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3. Can he write off the Vicks on his tax returns?
It is an important work expense.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:19 AM
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4. karmic adjustments are such a nuisance!
n/t
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:20 AM
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5. Visit the blog to read the PDF of the complaint. Glen sure
thinks a lot of himself. Very little resemblence of the author of this complaint to the man of the people exposing fraud and hypocrisy. Boy, oppose the Great Glen Beck, even in satire, and he goes all international on your ass. I have to change my opinion of Beck in that when he says he is a "rodeo clown" I have to believe him.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:52 AM
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6. I like the "moron in a hurry" test
Only a moran in a hurry would confuse this satirical website with an actual attempt to libel beck.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:58 AM
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7. take that site down and 1000 more pop up with the same crap
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:02 AM
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9. Not only that,
take that site down, and the 100 sites that follow it won't all be satires. The tinfoilers will come out of the woodwork with their "I didn't believe he did it before, but now I wonder if there isn't something to it?" and "If there is nothing to it, why did an INTERNATIONAL GOVERNMENT INTERNET AGENCY shut it down? It's a COVERUP!".

How many of the 'International Government Agency covers up Glen Beck's rape and murder of a teenage girl in 1990' conspiracy sites will be real and how many will be satire.

Best part of it is, how many of his followers subscribe to the International Government Agency Conspiracy Theories and may take this as a sign that all is NOT right in Beckland?

I wonder if Mr Beck thought this all the way through. Anyone dumb enough to follow him is dumb enough to fall for the International Government Conspiracy Theories.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:27 PM
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10. If it turns out that Beck truly is a rapist and murderer (sarcasm)...
...I hope that he is a scoundrel in that order. Murder then rape, yuck. Can you really rape a murdered person? next time I see a conservative I'll have to ask.
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