Oklahoma trooper who choked ambulance driver in May in trouble again.

[Liberal_in_LA]

Okla. trooper again accused of excessive force

HOLDENVILLE, Okla. (AP) — An Oklahoma trooper previously suspended for fighting with an ambulance driver is on paid administrative leave after being accused of using excessive force.

Trooper Daniel Martin is accused of beating Khristopher Douglas of Holdenville. Douglas says he was at a friend's home helping with renovations Saturday when troopers pulled up to handle an apparent traffic stop.

Douglas says he was going inside when Martin demanded he come toward the street. Douglas says Martin grabbed his arm and began beating him when he questioned the order.

Oklahoma Highway Patrol Capt. Chris West says Martin and another trooper are on paid leave during the investigation.

Martin served a five-day suspension for the May incident in which he grabbed a paramedic in a choke hold around the neck.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-10-05-okla-trooper-force_N.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno

[Blue_Tires]

1. roids?

[Taverner]

3. They all take them

IN some cases, they are advised to take them by their supervisor

Don't believe me? Look at cops from the 80's and now...

[vadawg]

5. rofl, all cops take roids rofl

[Taverner]

7. You think the cops don't take anything above asprin, you're sadly mistaken

Sure hope those rose colored glasses fit well, Polyanna!

[vadawg]

9. no you made the statement that all cops take roids, i say prove it

until then i am going to laugh at the stupidity in your post...

[Taverner]

11. Just look at the news - all kinds of cops getting busted for roids

Its very common

[vadawg]

16. common because the media reports a few stories, or common because the numbers indicate it

how many cops do you actually think take roids or was the comment of they all do it just your exageration..

[Taverner]

18. Well no one is doing to dare do a study

Most of the reporters who reported even local cops on roids ended up sort of, ahem, unprotected if you know what I mean.

Remember the Oakland Riders (OPD)? ALL of them were on roids. All of them.

[vadawg]

20. so are you still saying that every cop is on roids or are you backing off on that one

since all you have is your opinion that this is so..

[Taverner]

26. Ahhh I see where you're going - you're a nitpicker

OK, let me change it to MOST cops are on roids then

Feel better?

[vadawg]

32. Most, define most, still seems you are making shit up

most cops i know dont even go to the gym or participate in any excercise outside of beer runs and bbq, so i am wondering when all this roid using happens,

[Taverner]

34. Whatever - I can't argue with Gestapo Apologists

[vadawg]

37. lol so you are basically admitting that your roids premise is BS

good cause it just made you look stupid when you first made the statement...

[Taverner]

39. No I'm saying there is no way to argue with you - its like arguing with a wingnut

Police always good

Police always good


Police always good

right?

[Taverner]

43. Tell you what, I'll bite:

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/hoberman/cops-on-steroids.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3745740&page=1

[vadawg]

45. wow some cops use roids, go figure. still waiting for you to prove

your statement, or are you now changing it to a minority of cops use steroids which is what the reports you linked to seem to say...

[Taverner]

46. See, this is why I'm not going to argue with you

Because you are looking for the ultimate MacGuffin here...and guess what, we will never have one and you know it.

So please excuse me while I go communicate with some progressives.

Enjoy that rose colored view, Polly!

[vadawg]

44. opposed to your police always bad, police always bd

difference is i wait until i see the evidence before i hang a man, you just because he wears a badge and someone who may or not be a criminal says so are already picking out the tree....

[Shell Beau]

38. No they don't all take them.

That is silly. I am sure many do though.

[vadawg]

42. i think its a locality issue more than a cultural issue, some dept's have problems

the majority dont, but once again its the broad brush thing, one cop in buttfuck california does something and its all cops do it, whereas a cop gives his life and you hear oh he was different from all the other cops... Luckily i know that DU speaks for a minority of the US when it comes to the police and the job we do.....

[MineralMan]

2. The stupid is strong in that one...

[vadawg]

4. not enough info to go on, just one side of the story so far....

[Raineyb]

15. Gee what a surprise

A cop with a history of abusing his position but you need "more info" Why don't you just admit that NOTHING anyone says will convince you that this asshole cop is a fucking menace?

[vadawg]

19. nope nothing that anyone says without actual evidence will convince me that anyone is an asshole

unlike yourself i dont let my prejudices convict someone before i have seen the facts of what happened..

[Raineyb]

25. Right because his past behavior is NO indication that the current accusations

may have merit.

What does he have to do kill someone? Oh no of course not because you won't have enough info should that happen either.

Your constant excuse-making for the police is really quite nauseating.

:puke:

[CreekDog]

28. one doesn't need to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to be proven an asshole

as it is not a criminal offense.

the preponderance of evidence (like the video of the last incident) shows that he is *in fact* an asshole.

if you think that is not enough evidence to conclude such a thing (and lots of innocent people are assholes by the way), then i don't know how you can do your job. i suspect you are not treating the officer with the same standards that you treat others.

:eyes:

[vadawg]

35. dont you get it im treating the officer the way you would want to be treated

im not prejudging him based on only one side of the story, think about it, would you want to be in jail based on nothing more than what a reporter wrote in their story without any evidence or even your side of the story. Stories like this are just fodder for the we hate the pigs crew to jump on without even realising that everything they accuse the pigs of doing they are now guilty of themselves.

[CreekDog]

41. did you even read my post? this was about your statement that he wasn't an asshole

and HOW THAT IS NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENSE!

of course he should get constitutionally required due process before being declared guilty of an actual crime.

of course he should get the appropriate due process before losing his job according to the rules of his department/agency in accordance with his contract if any (not the high bar of a criminal matter though).

but after his behavior on film with the ambulance driver what else on earth is required to call the guy an asshole? DNA?

:wtf: :banghead:

[vadawg]

47. sorry i clicked the reply to the wrong post :)

[CreekDog]

48. ok

maybe you were responding to what i was thinking and not what i wrote. :rofl:

[Gman2]

21. The real problem is: cops get outta training without the fucking faintest idea what OUR rights are.

Tell me I'm wrong! I dare you. I have had three breakins, with no evidence, no warrant, no bad stuff to answer for.

[vadawg]

24. ive argued with you before, and it got us nowhere, we ended up insulting each other

and then both of us started acting tlike adults and cooled it, so i for one dont want to spend the next four hours going back and forth with you about how you think all cops are corrupt and me thinking your nuts. peace out man

[Gman2]

30. No prob. but how do rogue cops make YOU, the victim nuts?

[Soylent Brice]

6. lesson of the day: as long as you have a badge you can choke and beat people.

check.

[Echo In Light]

14. Which is why haters and sadists LOVE wielding that power

[piratefish08]

23. and taser.

yup.

[Hepburn]

27. +1....

...the misuse of a taser seems to be the latest with these power-tripping asshole cops.

:puke:

[Hepburn]

8. Asshole cop....

...what a fucking surprise ~~ not.

JMHO

[EOTE]

10. So this asshole is being punished by getting a paid vacation?

Yep, sounds about right to me.

[AndyA]

12. The trooper should be terminated. There are obviously anger management issues with him.

He will eventually hurt someone or kill someone.

Fire him.

[Barack_America]

13. I think we should wait until he kills someone....

Before we determine him to be a "problem cop".

[ddeclue]

17. ROID RAGE?

What is this dude's problem? Send him to jail for assault.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

22. Even if this guy is forced to resign, he'll still be out there with his violent temper

He's now been suspended twice for violent behavior. With these anger issues, I hope he gets some kind of counseling or psychological treatment before someone gets badly hurt.

[Raineyb]

29. And some other police department will hire him.

It's not like violent behavior precludes one from getting hired by the police department.

[Gman2]

36. The freak will work for APF, or is that APPF.

[barbtries]

31. dude's in the wrong line of work

and he's getting a paid leave. maybe he's just rousting people for no reason so he doesn't have to work at all.

[Gman2]

40. HAd a friend{nolonger} that was denied being a cop, cuz psych

eval. He got a job as a fireman. He used to fight fags for fun, and throw huge crescent wrenches at kittens. Serious freak. I heard from a friend, that he always talked about glassing the ragheads. By that, he meant all Arab women and children.

[jeffbr]

33. Another scumbag cop

He'll be police commissioner before long.

[BlooInBloo]

49. If it was a white guy this time, possibly people will listen.