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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 07:59 AM Original message |
Eight U.S. Soldiers Dead in Bold Attack in Afghanistan |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. Bring them home and let the "insurgents" have the place. nt |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. they have had 7 years to learn to fuck us over....thanks mr bu$h* |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
3. It appears the blood bath has begun |
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Don Caballero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
4. May peace be with their loved ones |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. NO we need a strategy to get OUT of this war...there is NOTHING TO WIN. |
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Don Caballero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. We need to disable Al Qaeda and the Taliban |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. ain't gonna happen |
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Don Caballero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. If Al Qaeda and the Taliban |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. aint' gonna happen...been there almost 8 years....ain't gonna happen...bring them home |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Let's sacrifice American youth (forced into military service by econ) for out political gain |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I disagree with the political part. however |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Was this misplaced? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. yep, was a reply to 10.(nt) |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. You are advocating a policy of |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Or LBJ or JFK or get off your soap box and look at how |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Except extra-judicial assassinatims were |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Banned killing heads of state. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Your use of the word "terrorists" suggests the |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. The tactics used since inception of the nation state. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. The military is not a police force it is a very blunt instrument used to kill wholesale. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Lets focus on the matter at hand, right now. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Another circular arguement. We created a situation and now have to fight the cold war against a new |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. One day we will all just get along |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. The problem is that it wasn't a war until we made it one. This was a criminal matter and should |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The CIA bled the USSR out |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Wrong. The pashtuns bled the USSR out. Just like they are doing to us. BTW, who is mnfg those AK's |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. NO they used weapons WE BOUGHT from Egypt and gasp>> |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. The proof is in your face. They confound us without those weapons. Again whose mnfg the AK's |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Let see which war, Egypt supplied weapons |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. You make my point for me. Who is mnfg those AKs. And, they were only old 6 yrs ago. Now they'er new |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. They are not new. They are not fielding |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. When you have an actual rebuttal, let me know. Again you make my point for me. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. One question, who is the USSR in your vietnam comparison?(nt) |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. ahh Pav, we discuss this below ... and you lose there too. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I missed the name of the super power supplying them? |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. What is needed is a litte transparency AFTER the fact. The only thing that is really covered up is |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
51. We'd be killing a lot of the Saudi Royal Family, then. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You never know.. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Or of 'thirst'. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Lets close the loop. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I believe the CIA was caught either loafing, or just behind the curve. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I agree. Once again.. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. And the ISI has their own agenda of staying in power, and controlling |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Hopefully the people making the calls.. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Fuzzy, yes. Warm? Not so much. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. It's the worst motivation to continue a war due to the loses incurred in the war. If the CIA was |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Read legacy of ashes, they never were super sleuth.. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. The CIA is lazy, psychotic and more often than not WRONG. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I agree |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. And the terrain makes the task of monitoring very difficult. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. "Win"? How 'bout we GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE ASAP!? |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I think we should hire H1-Bs to replace Nate Silver's needed talent in the CIA. Since we can't be |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
7. "a remote area on the border with Pakistan." What a surprise; who'da thunk. Vietnam all over again |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Who is plating the part of the USSR? You know the important |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. OK, the Pashtuns have a high quality gun metal smelter in those mountains and secret RPG factories |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The soviets dumped in migs, advanced air to air, and crates |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. The only difference is the enemy is not playing to win. They are playing not to lose. Pashtuns have |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. We have to define "enemy" |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Exactly! And if the CIA were really about intelligence instead of death squad we could identify |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. The CIA is 3 or 4 major agencies under one budget. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. They act more like a young man with a hard on. Thinking with the wrong head. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. There is a written history full of examples |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Noam Chomsky from his first book to his last. Well thought, well written and cited |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I tend to read content from SMEs. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Troll much? And Einstien didn't have the expertise to realize E=MC^2 was patently in error |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Subject Matter Expert. Ie books on the CIA |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Thevenin or norton? Hence, it is possible to characterize something from external evidence |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. The CIA is summarized as generally incompetent. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
73. Well, there is all that opium money. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Legalize it... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. Killing their ignorant meat puppets will not win this war. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Yeah! But if you look at it from their point view ... it will. That's exactly the situation. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
21. "Bring it on!," the Emperor taunted. And so |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Exept they didn't. They play the game of economics. How much does it cost to place a future cadaver |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
45. Cannon-fodder to cover the asses of the politicians and generals. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
60. Time to pull out the soldiers and call in the lawyers |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
62. Escalation and expansion. |
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