Bill Sparkman was slain

[nadinbrzezinski]

now it is official, for those who cannot believe this is actually going on in our country.

Here is a link for you

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32991672/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Oh and I am not shocked or surprised they are not using the proper language, aka lynching. There is a history, but now they are looking for the cause...

To me it is fairly obvious, but they have to go where the evidence takes them, and they have to build a case. I don't.

[el_bryanto]

1. What is the definition of Lynching? I take it to mean a community effort at political murder

but i could be wrong about that. One political murder is called an assassin, a pack of murderers is called a lynch mob?

Bryant

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. This has all the hallmarks of a lynching

he was hung from a tree, with the word FED scrawled on his chest, at a cemetery.

It fits the pattern of a lynching.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching

By the way, they don't know how many people were involved in this. Or if they do, they are shaking the trees.

[tridim]

3. We don't yet know if this murder was the act of one person.

[global1]

5. Did They Cordon Off The Area Where He Was Found?........

They should be able to tell by the ground around the area if there was a group involved. I hope they took precautions and isolated the crime scene.

[Barack_America]

4. "an autopsy report is pending"

The coroner makes these declarations, not the media.

We all know what this looks like, but MSNBC's declaration means nothing.

[mainer]

6. No census, no proper head count? Then no federal handouts

Until census takers can conduct their work in a community without getting lynched, maybe that community should be cut off from any federal tax funds. Since they want the feds out of there anyway.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. .

"He was such an innocent person," Acciardo said. "I hate to say that he was naive, but he saw the world as all good, and there's a lot of bad in the world."

[TxRider]

8. They don't use lynching because it implies a mob.

[Better Today]

9. There are no new facts and the comments actually muddy the water quite a bit. Example:

The mother indicates she has been told the body was in a state of decomp, if so why are we not hearing about any previous missing person report on him? Did no one know he was missing long enough to decompose or I suppose the weather or scavangers, maybe. Nonetheless a question not answered.

Also the indication that some were told it was an apparent suicide? Not likely, based on what little I've read to date, but the facts released to date are pretty darn vague. For example, what if the writing actually said "fed up" and we are only hearing about the "fed" half. Not a lie, but not the whole facts perhaps. If something like that were the case, perhaps suicide is possible. And before someone points out that he recently survived cancer, I've known quite a few that became chronically suicidal after surviving cancer. When their lives get crazy with medical bills, families go back to being jerks, and other such things lead them to a sort of "why'd I bother" perspective that can be quite dibilitating.

Lastly, the consistent confirmation that the area is a hotbed for drugs and meth. Granted the "fed" part doesn't necessarily match up, but hey it's not like meth heads are always rational or sensible in their violence.

Why patience for facts such a difficult thing for folks in USA? Winding this up with spin before we know the facts is no better than the pundits and MSM that are consistently criticized for doing the same.

[Barack_America]

13. The body could be in bad shape either from decomposition...

...or from being beaten or otherwise mutilated.

Or from the medical examiner's office having substandard means with which to preserve it.

Lots of possibilities.

[Better Today]

18. No doubt, hence reason to await facts!

[bertman]

23. The article says that the retired trooper reported him missing when he did not show up

for work for two days. Given the summer weather, rain, etc., it's not unlikely that the body was decomposing.

[Subdivisions]

32. He was reported missing:

...snip...

“Mr. Sparkman was a very responsible person,” Acciardo said.

Acciardo went to Sparkman’s home — he lived alone — to check up on him.

“We even went late that night when he normally would be home,” he said. “We know him and we know his habits and we know if he should be home or not.”

All they found was Sparkman’s dog Jack.

“By Friday morning, we were sure something was wrong,” Acciardo said. “I contacted the state police and had them start an investigation about his whereabouts and his well-being.”

...snip...

http://www.sentinel-echo.com/local/local_story_260125017.html

[justiceischeap]

10. I don't understand this quote from the FBI

FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to discuss any details of the crime scene. Agents are trying to determine if foul play was involved and whether it had anything to do with Sparkman's job as Census worker, Beyer said. Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime.

Emphasis mine...

If someone is hanged from a tree with the word "Fed" scrawled on his chest, isn't that foul play? That statement makes it sound like they're considering that he did this to himself.

[Barack_America]

11. I think they're trying to respect the tradition that a coroner...

...decides the cause of death, not them.

[anigbrowl]

20. Basically there's no new information here

The 'fed' part is from an anonymous law enforcement official. It may or may not be accurate - we really know nothing about that - maybe s/he saw the body, or heard it from another emergency worker or whatever. The FBI usually stays tight-lipped, not least because they don't want to tip their hand or prejudice a trial by pre-empting a coroner's conclusion.

[Better Today]

21. If you read the whole thing it isn't "like they're considering," they ARE actually considering.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. Story says FBI still haven't determined if it was murder or suicide.

:shrug:

[Barack_America]

14. MSNBC said "slain" in the title.

So now it's "official".

:eyes:

[Better Today]

19. Eyeroll is right.

[JuniperLea]

29. Did you read the article? eom

[Barack_America]

39. "autopsy report still pending"

Indeed I did.

[JuniperLea]

43. Law inforcment officers don't usually go out on a limb unless they are fairly certain...

"Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else."

Do you honestly think this could have been suicide?

[Barack_America]

46. The Feds and local authorities seem to disagree.

I know what I suspect, but I'll wait for the coroner before I declare anything.

[JuniperLea]

51. I don't trust the good ol' boy network in that area...

So I wouldn't expect any more clarity from "their" coroner.

[Barack_America]

63. I don't either. I was just noting the squabbling between the agencies.

The locals are pushing for one conclusion and the FBI another.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/dead_census_worker_was_warned_to_be_careful_in_rur.php#more

There seems to be a lot of concern down there that this could be pinned on "anti-govt. sentiment". The guy they interviewed (a retired state cop), notice how his statements don't match up? He says "people might not know you're just gathering statistics", then says his concern was really how isolated the area was.

[frogmarch]

74. I agree.

Right outside of the town where I live, a local college professor's body was found bound by barbed wire to a post and burned. The death has been ruled a suicide, despite the fact that not only was the body lashed to a post with barbed wire, but the man had difficulty walking because of a recent broken ankle yet his body was found in rugged hilly country. It was cold outside when he disappeared, yet the body wasn't found wearing a jacket. He didn't own a car. He was described by some of his students as effeminate acting.

A retired crime forensic specialist who taught at the college here offered his assistance in the investigation - and was told to back off, or else. He was soon fired from his teaching position and has left the area.

Sorry for going off topic, but I am aware of good o' boy networks in law enforcement matters. I hope the FBI continues its involvement in the hanging case.

[JuniperLea]

81. Validation isn't always sweet...

But I'm glad for it anyway... horrid story there... thanks for sharing. We need to shine a bright light on this kind of thing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

90. Yep, validation is not always sweet

[KT2000]

15. This article says he was warned

but that is very misleading - they have to go where they are sent. Census takers who have a high failure rate of participation get fired.
If our country is so screwed up then we need to send armed protection with census takers.
That poor man.

[livetohike]

22. Usually the Census sends two workers together to areas

that have been known to be problems. Such areas include known militia camps. Don't know if that was the case here. (I worked for Census2000 and while we were inner city, I did have colleagues in the the rural offices).

[Beer on a stick]

16. Do you even bother to read what you link to?

[ohheckyeah]

17. Really? Where in that article

does it state he was murdered?

[JuniperLea]

28. Did you bother to read it? Or is this just the usual argumentum ad hominem ?

"Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else."

[anigbrowl]

35. 'apparent' means 'seems to be'. So probably, but not yet definitely.

This is why we have coroners. I guess that it will turn out to be homicide, but they get to make the call.

[JuniperLea]

40. I get that...

But the poster to whom I was responding didn't seem to.

[proteus_lives]

24. Doesn't lynching imply a mob of people doing it?

If one person did it, isn't it just murder?

And I'm still not comfortable speculating on why he was killed. It could all be misdirection.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Well I guess the level of denial is pretty heavy

no use in discussing this, or anything else in this place anymore. After all everything is honky dory and nothing is happening in the country.

:sarcasm:

Yep, this parallels events in other situations going where we are going.

Denial is part of it.

File this under... descent to the ugliness we are going into file.

Oh and yes, it was a lynching. It is pretty clear it involved anti guv'ment sentiment, and it happened on 9\12

Suffice it to say that connect the dots is not a skill people like to exercise any more.

At least not now, and not here.

And yes, some folks see the pattern, not just me. A few even here on DU... thankfully. But for the most part there is still pretty much denial.

Oh and wait for the facts... you'll see. One more marker towards the ugliness we are marching towards. Me just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point.

[Echo In Light]

26. Never underestimate the power of denial, especially by those inordinately concerned over appearances

[JuniperLea]

30. But what would the lurking Freepers think?

Yeah... that shit kills me.

[Echo In Light]

33. Ha...doubt many of em could keep up (limited reading & grammatical skills)

[JuniperLea]

37. It may be difficult to read...

WITHOUT ALL CAPS!

Ew... sorry... even for effect, that grates on my last raw nerve!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

31. Actually, he was FOUND on 9/12

But then again, we shouldn't let details get in the way of exploiting this guy's death for political purposes.

[Barack_America]

45. TPM is reporting he died on the morning of Sept. 11.

But gives no source for their information.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/census_worker_found_dead_in_kentucky_--_what_do_we.php?ref=mp

[JuniperLea]

48. Oh, I see... you believe TPM and are willing to post their stuff...

But the OP is an asshole... and MSNBC gets an eyeroll...

Check.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

49. TPM's credibility is irrelevant to the OP's status.

[JuniperLea]

54. I never said it was...

I was discussing the poster's useage of TPM, whilst bashing the MSNBC. Neither are stellar, imho... so quoting one whilst bashing the other just seems rather odd to me.

[Barack_America]

50. Where did I say I believed them? Until they reveal their source...

...their information is as suspect as any.

Saying someone is "reporting" something does not mean one believes it.

It's just one assumption after another for you, isn't it?

Do you not see the problem with MSNBC reporting he was "slain" while noting the results of an autopsy were still pending?

[JuniperLea]

61. "It's just one assumption after another for you, isn't it?"

Listen, Duckie, this is the first thread on the subject I've commented on. Show me one place here where I was making an assumption. I've been asking questions, and stating opinions, but I don't recall making any assumptions.

Whenever someone takes it to personal attack mode, such as your snarky-assed comment, "It's just one assumption after another for you, isn't it?" I tend to think the agenda of said attacker is in question. My opinion. Deal.

[Barack_America]

64. Well, you assumed that I believed TPM carte blanche.

Even when I noted they gave no source for their information.

[JuniperLea]

68. I assumed nothing...

You used it as a source, whilst belittling another source.

You assumed quite a bit about me, and accused me of things I never did... so how would I know what you were thinking? It doesn't seem logical at all to snark me off for shit I never did.

[ohheckyeah]

55. I think he probably was murdered but the article

doesn't say that.

[JuniperLea]

62. The article says exactly that... it is probably... "an apparent homicide"...

Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else.

[Subdivisions]

27. More on Bill:

http://www.sentinel-echo.com/local/local_story_260125017.html


...snip...

Sparkman moved to Laurel County in 1993 as part of an assignment for his job with the Boy Scouts of America. Shortly after arriving, he became a volunteer at Johnson Elementary, an experience he so enjoyed he became interested in pursuing a career in education. He was eventually offered a position as instructional assistant, which he accepted.

“For the nine years, I did it, I loved,” he told The Sentinel-Echo in March 2008. “All those years at Johnson, I taught the first hour of the morning, they called it daily oral review ... I loved teaching that.”

...snip...

He was eventually diagnosed with Stage 3 non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Sparkman underwent six session of chemotherapy, during which his Johnson Elementary colleagues rallied around him.

“They were sneaky,” he said. “They gave me two huge baskets full of food, books, tapes and clothes and gift certificates. I was just ... I couldn’t believe they’d done that.”

...snip...


And, out of curiosity I decided to go explore the area around where his body was found on Google Earth. Less than 20 miles from where his body was found is a small community called Burning Springs. There was a Wikipedia geographical marker there so I clicked on it and was surprised to find this:


Burning Springs is an unincorporated community in Clay County, Kentucky, United States. It is mostly centered around U.S. Route 421. It has one school, Burning Springs Elementary. It is about 4 miles (4-5 minutes) from Jackson County but about 15 miles (15-20 minute drive) from Manchester, the county seat. Some of its major roads are Brushy Branch, Sexton's Creek, Hogskin Rd, Laurel Heights Subdivision, Sacker, and Ponder Branch. It extends from Island Creek to the Jackson County line.

Laurel Heights Subdivision, a large part of Burning Springs, Kentucky Is know for the death of a small child, who was shot, by a fire arm, while playing with it.The land is currently owned by, Tyler Martin (fat-cakes), Cody Smith, and Brad Jones. It is often referred to as the ghetto of Kentucky, because of frequent, drug problems, robbery, Breaking and Entering, arson, and little girls getting shot. There is also, a crew (gang) from The subdivision, that is know as hells angels, they frequently kick babies in the face. The current known members of this gang are: Fatcakes, Brad Jones, Blaze(CS), Alpha (cp), Omega(JP), Cain Bruner, JW. They frequently give LH beat downs to unsuspecting Victims, there have been no known survivors of an LH beat down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Springs,_Kentucky


Not that these characters should be considered suspects, but it goes to show the sort of mindset that exists in the area where there is a lot of marijuana growing and selling as well as methamphetimine production and use going on.

On a more personal, if meaningless, note, I have driven through this area of Kentucky, including Manchester. The area is extremely rural and in places the front stoop of peoples' home literally terminate at the edge of the road. I got a very uneasy feeling being back in those mountains and couldn't get out of there fast enough.

[JuniperLea]

34. I don't think things have changed much in that area...

In the past 50 years or so... except meth labs seem to have replaced the stills... them dam revenuers, ya know... folks in these parts don't take kindly to the guvment... never have.

Kentuky has some beautiful people, and areas... I don't this this is one of them.

[Subdivisions]

38. You know, it's crazy...When I first heard of this story and as I was making the above

post, the phrase "them dam revenuers" was the first thing that came to my mind. When I was passing through that area, I got the distinct impression that almost anything could happen back in those mountains and no one would ever know about it.

[JuniperLea]

42. It's the stuff Stephen King novels are made of...

Creepy. I once saw a little boy with nine fingers reloading shotgun shells BY HAND... bang out the old primer, bang in the new, pour in the black power, stuff in the wad (this could have done it too), add shot, fold down the top and tuck it in with a pocket knife... I figured the 10th digit was lost when a primer was pushed too hard or something. The whole thing scared the hell out of me. I'd stopped for gas... this reloading was happening on the front step to the little gas shack... if I hadn't needed the gas so badly, and if I knew there was another station nearby, I would have booked it the hell out of there! I saw him load two while I filled my tank... and winced with every tap and poke... I'd seen it done with re-loading equipment dozens of times, but never by hand! By a child! Ugh. You have to pack those things pretty tight to make them work right... otherwise they backfire, or your shot comes rolling out the barrel. Too scary... I need a drink now just talking about it!

[armyowalgreens]

36. You just don't give up do you?

[nadinbrzezinski]

91. The facts are starting to catch up

facts bother you in this case, don't they?

by the way, how do you bind your hands and commit suicide?

See post bellow

[JuniperLea]

92. Facts, and inconsistencies...

I think it will be a while before we see the big picture.

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. A lot of it is local vs Feds

to be quite honest...

[Jazzgirl]

41. Just scrolling through to see who responded.

I see most of the naysayers didn't post.

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[JuniperLea]

47. You seriously think it was suicide?

Really?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

52. I think we're saying it shouldn't be ruled out.

I also think we shouldn't be jumping to conclusion because we want to exploit this guy's death as a stupid political attack on Bachmann, etc.

[JuniperLea]

57. I fail to see how discussing opinions...

is a bad thing, or should be banned from DU. In my business, brainstorming is king.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

60. "In my business, brainstorming is king."

I'm not seeing any evidence of imagination, creativity or rational thought whatsoever.

[JuniperLea]

67. Admitting that might cause someone to question...

Your ability to ascertain the same.

[armyowalgreens]

53. I DON'T KNOW.

We don't know for certain. Yet the OP and other people have been running around having a motherfucking field day with this. It's not only disgusting, it's also extremely unwise.

[JuniperLea]

56. Ahhh... so you don't like opinions...

You should stay away from DU in that case... DU is full of opinions.

[armyowalgreens]

58. I don't like people exploiting suspicious circumstances surrounding a mans death.

Do you guys realize that? A man is fucking dead.

And you are all running around screaming about how Bachmann and freepers are the reason for his death.

[JuniperLea]

65. Show me where I ever said anything like that!

You are fucking out of your mind.

He was apparently a very GOOD man, by all I've read. THAT is precisely why I'm interested.

You are acting like a class A fuckwad! Show me where I've done any of that, genius.

[armyowalgreens]

69. Notice how I said "you are all"...implying multiple parties.

And yes there are many DUers who have been doing just that.

I included you in that group because you accused me of not liking opinions. Which is really disingenuous.

[JuniperLea]

71. Yeah, I noticed...

And you didn't answer my question... which would blast your claim of my being disingenuous out of the water... and right into your own lap.

I never said any of those things, I do not deserve to be put into any group, I accused you of not liking opinions because you have railed against all of mine, even though they are clearly only opinions... and questions... which you don't seem to like to answer.

[armyowalgreens]

75. You are being ridiculous...

I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. You were the one that invited yourself to come over and ask me if I honestly believed it was a suicide. Which was a loaded question because you were just looking to be a wise ass. Do you feel good about yourself?

You still honestly believe that I don't like others opinions? I don't even know what that really means.

If I think someone is wrong, I'm probably not going to like their opinion. That doesn't mean that I hate the idea of expressing ones opinion.

What's hysterical is that this "not liking opinion" meme is just freeper bullshit repackaged. Everybody and their mother accused me of not liking others opinions when I counter protested a tea party in march.

Just like them, I believe you are all acting like selfish fools. But I fully support your right to embarrass yourselves. It just makes me a little bit ill watching it take place.

[JuniperLea]

80. LOL!

Whatever, dude... you still haven't answered my question...

[armyowalgreens]

82. You have asked me two questions...

I responded to the first one in post 53. I responded to the other in post 69.

1. I do not know

2. I put you in that group because you were attempting to misrepresent my stance.


Anything else you'd like to comment on, or are you done?

[JuniperLea]

83. Wrong... I asked three...

I said to show me where I said any of the things that the group of people have said... that group that you erroneously placed me in.

[armyowalgreens]

84. From all that I can tell, you asked two. That was your second question...

And I answered it already. It's not my fault that you don't like my answer.

[JuniperLea]

85. Ok, it was more like a command...

To show me where I ever said anything of the sort.

[JuniperLea]

66. Show me where I ever said anything like that!

You are fucking out of your mind.

He was apparently a very GOOD man, by all I've read. THAT is precisely why I'm interested.

You are acting like a class A fuckwad! Show me where I've done any of that, genius.

[Stephanie]

72. I agree with you

The speculation around this has been over the top.

[nadinbrzezinski]

93. Whiskey rebellion, read on it

if there are drugs involved in this, see Whiskey Rebellion, Prohibition, et al. Clay Co has a LONG FUCKING HISTORY OF THIS going back to King George sending troops in the 1770s.

If there are no drugs involved it is even worst, as it is a stronger indicator of where we are moving, and has little to do with Bachman by the way. I doubt must folks in Clay Co know who crazy Bachman is. You should do a little readying.

I'd also recommend you read Bruce Catton's trilogy on the Civil War, especially at this point BOOK ONE... and that is just on top of a readying list, a historiography as it were.

[JuniperLea]

95. Hence my first thought...

Guldurned revenuers! Folks in that area don't take kindly to strangers poking around, nosing in their bidniss. Never have, never will.

My dear departed grand-pappy ran moonshine... got 25 cents a bottle... he swam up river with them. A poor 14-year-old will do about anything to help his momma feed his brothers. I've heard stories... and they surely do match up with the history!

[nadinbrzezinski]

99. That history is why I am willing to use the term lynching

as to the history... really depends WHY he was killed.

Meth lab, one story.

No Meth lab... something a little more serious in our road to civil war.

That independent streak goes back oh to the old country of Scotland.

Regardless Quick lighting has been replaced by meth and marijuana...

The only thing that makes me think... this ain't drug related is... the message to the Feds. Last thing you need is to give the DEA all the excuse they need to come down guns a'blazing.

[conscious evolution]

59. Civil war

I have said it once and I will keep saying it.

THIS COUNTRY IS IN A STATE OF CIVIL WAR!

There is no other way to describe it.We have people committing violent acts and terrorism against their fellow citizens over political differences.That is the definition of a civil war.

[Odin2005]

70. WTF is with all the denial?

This is RIGHT-WING TERRORISM, people! Wake up!

[Stephanie]

73. You don't know that

You have no way of knowing if that's true.

[Odin2005]

76. The "FED" thing is a damn good indicator.

The "it's just because these are a bunch of out-law types" misses the fact that these people didn't kill census workers in previous censuses.

[anigbrowl]

78. what if that report turns out to have been inaccurate?

The coroner has to produce a report. Since the FBI is involved (because the dead man was a federal worker) that report will have to be approved by them at the very least - it may be that the FBI itself will produce that report. That report will contain the details of the evidence. I'd rather base my conclusions on that than on an anonymous comment which may or may not be completely accurate.

[anigbrowl]

77. There is no denial, there is a waiting for facts

Nobody denies the fact that he may have been murdered, or that it may have been political - most people think that is a very strong probability - but one that has not yet been definitively established. Having the facts first is a good thing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

101. Where it happened it may not be that

lynching, yes,

but related to the RW not fully.

There is a history of this crap in that area of the country going back to King George.

That said, keep your ears and eyes open. It depends, if this was drug related... it is a bad indicator but far less bad than if this has nothing to do with the meth trade.

But denial is strong that something nasty is going on.

[FarCenter]

79. Anyone who goes knocking on peoples' doors without armed backup is nuts

[kath]

86. "Sparkman was found with his hands and feet bound, with the word “fed” scrawled or carved

into his chest." http://www.sentinel-echo.com/local/local_story_267133715.html

Hard to bind your own hands, no??

[nadinbrzezinski]

88. I know... but nothing to see here

See above... my post on this. To some it does not matter what details emerge, it was suicide, nothing to see here.

Me, waiting for other shoe to drop

[anigbrowl]

102. My goodness, you are full of yourself

This detail about his hands and feet having been bound only emerged in the last hour or so. You did not know it before, and nor did anyone else who suggested it was better to wait for details that would confirm the story one way or another. Quit trying to pretend that there is some conspiracy to deny it could have been murder, it's quite reasonable for people to wait on facts before making up their minds even if you don't feel the need to.

[kath]

87. He did not show up to work on Thurs afternoon Sept 10 - friend/co-worker who is ex-trooper became

concerned.

“Mr. Sparkman was a very responsible person,” Acciardo said.

Acciardo went to Sparkman’s home — he lived alone — to check up on him.

“We even went late that night when he normally would be home,” he said. “We know him and we know his habits and we know if he should be home or not.”

All they found was Sparkman’s dog Jack.

“By Friday morning, we were sure something was wrong,” Acciardo said. “I contacted the state police and had them start an investigation about his whereabouts and his well-being.”

http://www.sentinel-echo.com/local/local_story_260125017.html


Friday was Sept. 11, the body was found on Saturday Sept 12. Depending on how many days a week he worked at the school, he likely was dead that long, so body shouldn't have been terribly decomposed. Not clear why the officials recommended cremation...

[nadinbrzezinski]

89. From years of EMS and I saw a few torturned bodies

I think we are not being told all details for a reason. American sensibilities. I suspect his passing was more horrific than they are telling... or for that matter should tell, while they build a case.

Then there is heat and humidity...

[kath]

94. Doesn't look like it was all that hot in that area on the 9th-12th:

http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/USKY1114?from=tenDay_topnav_undeclared
{on edit -- it did rain, though, in that area on the 9th and 10th)

Does it seem odd to you that the authorities are recommending cremation? Unless, of course, as you suggested, his body was horribly mutilated...

[cap]

96. I am just going on a hunch but something doesn't smell right about this...

somethings seem a little coincidental or serendipitous? First, the fact that there is some sort of Census Dept survey going on is not widely known. Second, it wasn't a theft because the computer was left alone.

I am just wondering if there isn't something more behind this than an isolated birther taking out his frustrations. I know that's the simple answer... and maybe I am going out on a limb... But if I wanted to scare off Census workers and screw up the 2010 Census, I'd make it into one foul, scary business.

The hanging of a man with the word fed on him strikes back at minorities and feeds on the image of the sinister federal government.

Between this and Acorn, I'm wondering if something more is afoot.

The 2010 Census is going to show major demographic shifts in key districts favoring Minorities if it is done accurately.

I have no evidence but I smell something like the hand of Karl Rove.

[Barack_America]

98. Apparently his computer was not in his car...

As had been reported earlier.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/949349.html

Assuming you believe this report over the earlier one, that is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

100. Oh this has little to nothing to do wiht Rove

Now it could have to do with the census, but not for the reasons you are thinking. It could be as simple as we do not like them feds... and that has a LONG history in that area

Remember the Hatfields... where do you think they're from?