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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:21 PM
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This was gonna be a reply, but it has personal connection so wanted to make it an OP
Posted by ccharles000
Girl Rejects Gardasil, Loses Path to Citizenship
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6614798#6614871

My girl friend has been a nurse for 25 years. Emergency room, cancer ward, trained in examining rape victims, now working ICU.

Her two daughters, two weeks ago last friday, got a call from their doctor about their pap smears. Something was wrong. Same with 3 of their friends within the last month, all had been given Gardasil injections sometime in the last few years.

I will make a long story short based on research both she and I (and later her/their Dr. after she talked him) did:

PLEASE note the words 'certain people' below:


It sounded like another Bog Pharma scam but it may be far worse. Turns out that studies actually show that not only does HPV NOT cause cervical cancer, the Gardasil itself does.

This revelation should be quite shocking to anyone who has been following the debate over Gardasil and mandatory vaccinations of teenage girls. First, it reveals that Gardasil appears to increase disease by 44.6 percent in certain people — namely, those who were already carriers of the same HPV strains used in the vaccine.

In other words, it appears that if the vaccine is given to a young woman who already carries HPV in a “harmless” state, it may “activate” the infection and directly cause precancerous lesions to appear. The vaccine, in other words, may accelerate the development of precancerous lesions in women.

http://trenches.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/the-gardasil-scam-hpv-does-not-cause-cancer/


So before jumping on the above here is what I have to say:

We are a diverse physical group of people and what affects you one way may affects others differently (case in point, I used to take Loratab for my neck and back injuries, made me feel happy and pain free and awake and alert. A friend who took it used to get sick and have nightmares and get sleepy.)

Mandating everyone get the same thing without finding out if and how they are different chemically than others (imagine if we all had to be injected with peanut oil - most might be ok but some have allergies to it) *IS* going to harm some people, maybe even cause death.

Finally - her one daughter is ok, the other has cancer but is early enough to treat. Of the other three close friends of her daughters, two of them are said to need surgery (or some such procedure, not up on the medical stuff like the GF is) but are getting another test done and the other one already retested and is ok (all in the same town too which makes me wonder if it could be a testing issue and false positives, I dunno just wanted to share.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:22 PM
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1. Thank you for posting this.
I have refused to let my daughter have it, though the doctors keep pushing it.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:26 PM
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2. Thank you very much for this post. The best of luck to these young women. n/t
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:34 PM
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3. thanks for the info and thoughtful response. i think you have a really good point about
being a "diverse physical...people."
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 09:36 PM
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4. k&r.....
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:03 PM
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5. kicked. n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 10:29 PM
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6. how horrendous. I am glad it is getting to be better. thank you for
the info. Take care.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:44 AM
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7. Not to belittle what is happening to your people...
...but this is why my cats get tested for the leukemia virus before I start giving them their vaccinations with the fe-leuk vaccine included.
If they tested positive (so far none of them have, thank Bast), they would not receive this particular serum.

Why can't we do the same sort of checking for humans before we start vaccinating ourselves against stuff?
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:57 AM
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8. People should take the advice of their doctors and not rely
on anecdotal evidence. Not to be rude, but a person's doctor is generally more knowledgable than a story about a friend's daughter one reads on the internet.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:10 AM
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9. That is actually bad advice IMHO
I have worked around a lot of doctors, as has my x, and my GF. They are just normal everyday folks and can easily get behind the times in medicine related issues (it is a huge field, like computers - you can be a programmer but not know recent developments in PERL because you work mainly with a subset of .net, like VB).

Her doctor had not seen the link I used above and was actually thankful for my GF sharing it with him.

And, oh, a lot of those things you look up on the net are also written by doctors.

Docs are busy people, collating data yourself and doing research is a good thing, as is getting a second opinion.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:12 AM
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10. I think it is 39 people who have died from Gardasil?
And there have been some really devastating side effects. This is just one more experience to add to the growing list of problems with this unproven vaccine.
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