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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:11 PM
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Tax Question re: Illegal Immigrants
OK, I just got THAT email again (for the 4th time); the one saying "Pay your taxes, 21 Million illegal immigrants depend on it!"

Can anyone tell me what percent of our tax dollar goes to illegals, and how? I'd also be interested in figures about what percent of our tax dollar goes to putting pot-smokers in jail. Everyone of the people I have gotten the email from enjoy that little illegal activity.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:15 PM
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1. no matter how misleading or how big of a lie it is, I know one thing for sure:
I would rather have my tax dollars go to 21 million illegal immigrants than to one or two military contractors like Haliburton.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:15 PM
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2. well
im not positive on the exact amount that goes to pot smokers, but ive always heard the majority of alcohol and tobacco taxes go to the war on drugs.
kinda ironic, aint it ?
haha

dunno what percent to illegals either, but you know tax payers do eventually pay for it .. but i mean come on its hardly anything to be upset about. there are legals here that dont pay taxes either, so ....
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:24 PM
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6. A Homeowners Association that I know, 99% rabid Republicans,
had no problem getting Mexicans to do labor for them at a fraction of what it would have cost otherwise. Seems to me that if some kids are going to school on their taxes, the parents already earned it.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:26 PM
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9. indeed
thats why i dont understand the right wing point of 'jobs americans wont do'

well obviously we wont do it for 2 dollars an hour like deperate illegals do.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:18 PM
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3. Google "earnings suspense file"
"What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year."

http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060501.shtml

The article is quite interesting. To a certain extent SS solvency depends on that earnings suspense file. Hmmmmm....

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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:26 PM
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8. Interesting. Thank you.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:19 PM
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4. Did the sender offer discounts on pointy hats and sheets?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:21 PM
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5. Don't forget, illegal immigrants also pay taxes.
All of them pay sales tax, and many also pay income tax. They also pour billions into the Social Security fund.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:25 PM
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7. if you want to stop immigration, stop the employer who employ them
without jobs they won't come here. More importantly, we KNOW who the employers are. I work in a small state, we ran a report on welfare recipients with family members under the age of 12 with reported "wages" of over $3,000 per quarter. Thousands. In many cases, the childs SSN was being used by as many as 10 people.

25% of the SSN reported by employers to the unemployment office in my state are invalid numbers.

And the agency can't tell anyone.

That's right, the state/federal unemployment/welfare office can't tell immigration or other police agency.

And who wrote those rules that prevent us from stopping illegal immigration?

The employers. They insist that the information be private.

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