Fashion show's use of 3 "average-sized" models prompts walkout

[charlie]

Good thing there are people left who won't bend on REALLY IMPORTANT SHIT:

Larger models 'spark fashion row'

A stylist and casting director have left a London Fashion Week show over a decision to use average-sized models, a fashion boss says.

Amanda May, managing director for Canadian designer Mark Fast, said there were "creative differences with regards to the casting of those girls".

Fast broke fashion convention by putting three size 12 to 14 models on the catwalk on Saturday.

"There was a team change and we're glad we stuck to our vision," said Ms May.

Ms May said stylist Daniela Agnelli and casting director Natalie Hubbard stepped in at the last minute to help out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8265312.stm

[Ian David]

1. I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, to find fashion designers being boorish assholes!

[Garbo 2004]

5. The designer was the one who included the average size models and expanded

his line to include larger size women. Evidently two staff hired for the show disagreed with his decision to use average size models and were replaced.

[Ian David]

9. Ahh... thanks for setting that straight. n/t

[Journeyman]

2. I found this size-comparison of women interesting . . .

What we perceive, what the reality is. From this, the decision by the casting director was in line with the women who would ultimately buy these clothes. Unfortunately, though the truth is what is, marketing rarely adheres strongly to truth, especially in so shifting a realm as fashion.

Link marginally NSFW. . .

http://www.buzzfeed.com/scott/which-woman-has-the-perfect-body

[seabeyond]

4. i found it interesting too. thanks journeyman. nt

[Hannah Bell]

7. the 16 looks the same size to me as the 12.

[charlie]

12. Ironic

In a illustration of perception vs reality, those three are photoshopped until they look like burnished pewter.

[Posteritatis]

13. Kind of emphasized the artificiality of the "ideal" standards to me (nt)

[RebelOne]

22. The model in the middle must be 6 feet tall.

I am a size 8 and not nearly as skinny as her.

[Arugula Latte]

44. Me too. I'm usually a size 8, but somewhat more curvy than that model.

[Zywiec]

30. I found it interesting that regardless of the size of the models

shown they were all still tone.

Not sure if that's indicative of the average male / female here in the US.

[Odin2005]

40. LOL, I thought the size 16 woman was the most attractive.

I don't get how projecting hip-bones and ribs are "attractive". :shrug:

[DatManFromNawlins]

43. Oh noes!

The models don't have the figures of adolescent boys! The horror!

[BlooInBloo]

3. *GASP* Models are whiny and petty??? Who woulda thunk it!!!

[Garbo 2004]

6. Nothing in the article about models whining or being petty. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Thanks for sharing

one of the reasons we have eating disorders are those models that are all but realistic for most women

I hope they continue to use average people in the shows

[Zoeisright]

11. +1

[MrModerate]

10. High fashion is so self-referential and incestuous that it hardly matters at all . . .

All the fashionistas in the world don't add up to one Target or KMart when it comes down to deciding what people wear.

[blogslut]

14. It's a Walk Off!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T20KmbNYUzk

Just kidding. My commendations to the designer. The stylist and the casting person that quit can bite my average female ass.

[SeattleGirl]

15. If that model in black (pictured at the link) is "larger sized", then

I'm a fucking whale!

[gbate]

35. Me too.

[Cleita]

38. Oh please SG. I have met you and you are no whale.

You are just right for your height. Don't ever think otherwise.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

16. UK sizes are different than US sizes.

I read about this and it was pointed out that a UK size 12 is probably a US size 8.

A US size 8 is what I wore in high school. A size 8 is TINY. I think the average chubby woman in the US is probably between a 14 and a 20.

[truedelphi]

17. And it's said that Marilyn Monroe was a terribly

Unfashionable twelve.

The really tough thing is, they have discontinued the size sixteen. I have been told to just wear a size fourteen or an eighteen. Would anyone tell someone who is a size six to
"Get over it and just wear a size smaller or bigger?" It is really bizarre.

[Blue Belle]

29. Actually, Marylin would probably be a 7 or an 8 in today's sizes...

They started cutting sizes bigger in the US in the late 80's.

[Arkansas Granny]

37. That's true. When I was in high school in the mid 60's I wore a size 12.

Today, at the same height and approximately the same weight, I wear a 4 to 6.

[loudsue]

42. You should try to find size FIVE shoes. They send you to the kids' dept.

to find a size 3 kids. They tell you that a size 3 in the kids dept. is the same thing as a size 5 womens. It isn't. Not only that, but very few of the styles are mature enough.

I'm SO FUCKING SICK & TIRED of corporate America cramming all this crap down our throats!!! I refuse to buy the crap they sell these days. That is NOT what I'm going to spend my money on. Clothes on the rack at the mall look like yard sale rejects, but they're charging 50 and 60 bucks for a piece of crap that will fall apart after 2 wearings, and $150 for something that will last through 4 or 5 washings.

[TommyO]

27. At current exchange rates, a UK 12 is actually a US 19!

:rofl:

Sadly, I crack myself up at times.

[Skittles]

18. kudos to Mark Fast

for knowing that gals of all sizes like fashion

[legin]

19. And another thing

Men's clothes can be mostly boring colours and patterns.

Women have all the best stuff.

I'm a size 16-18.

This concentration on clothes for midgets really cramps my style.

[legin]

20. I might go to the men's day on Wednesday

although why I need to be bored out of my tiny mind is another question.

My guess is a lot of outfits in the default colour for men, black. I prefer bright yellow.

[paulsby]

21. and for endomorphs and ectomorphs

try getting fashionable clothes that fit if you are more muscular than average.

it's quite difficult.

this is especially true for suits and stuff.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

23. Exhibit A as to why I can't stand the fashion industry.

Making Zoolander seem less and less outlandish by the day.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. When I read your subject line, it made me think that attendees at the fashion show walked out.

I'm delighted they used normal sized models and I bet they were all drop dead gorgeous. The one who leads the other models in the photograph is a size 12. :)


A size-12 Hayley Morley led the team at the end of the show

[theHandpuppet]

25. Kudos to Mark Fast

Also from the article...

"He has also been involved in All Walks Beyond the Catwalk, a photography exhibition featuring models aged 18 to 65, from sizes eight to 16.

"This is where he met Hayley Morley - one of the models he used in his show."


:thumbsup:

[Vinca]

26. You mean he was showing clothes

a real person might actually be able to wear?? The horror of it all.

[legin]

28. What's the point of using models anyway

they are all 12 out of 10 lookswise, tall, leggy, beautiful.

They would look stunning wearing a plastic dustbin liner.

They completly overshadow the clothes.

[JAbuchan08]

32. I disagree

I work not far from Bryant Park, in the service industry, during fashion week I had a few models wander into the store. Almost every one of them struck me as thin for their height, most of them too thin. While some seemed to have merely a thin frame, others looked unhealthy.

On the balance a lot of them weren't really very attractive, they simply had the long limbs and fine facial features that models are expected to have.

One, in fact, was a little bit snaggle toothed and odd looking, but because she was 5'8 and 105 lbs. she was a model.

[AngryAmish]

33. I saw this famous model this weekend

Alek Wek

I have no idea if she is still modeling but she is incredibly tall and incredibly thin.

There are thin women and then there is model thin.

[CrispyQ]

31. ...

"We wanted women to know they don't have to be a size zero to wear a Mark Fast dress - curvier women can look even better in one."

Size 0??? Really? How can someone be a size 0? 0 = nothing.

US women's clothing sizes get smaller & smaller. Soon there will be a size -1. :eyes:

[Hansel]

36. My niece is a size 0. She eats like a horse and really gets off the couch. nt

[JNelson6563]

34. I love that they kept the models in.

It's high time we had all sorts of models doing these shows as there are sorts of bodies out here in the real world.

I think a designer would be smart to have all body shapes in their shows and ads, along with flattering designs for different body types could come to dominate the industry.

[guitar man]

39. good, let 'em walk

I'm sick of seeing bones sticking out on these poor young girls that are starving themselves to death. I'm glad to see some larger sized women being accepted.

hell, as far as I'm concerned, the "bubblier" the better :evilgrin:

[Odin2005]

41. The stick figures can go screw themselves, they are very bad role "models"

Now days Marilyn Monroe would be considered "fat", idiots.

[charlie]

45. Holy crap, LOOK AT this

The mere act of putting regular women alongside makes runway models look deathly, like anemic refugees from Planet Scurvy.

These are 2 of the 3 that made the director and stylist quit:





And here are 2 of the type they preferred:

[XemaSab]

46. Come on, what man doesn't want to &#$% a girl with the build

of Jar Jar Binks? :shrug:

[Gold Metal Flake]

47. I see the models but where are the fashions?

Looks like a bedspread factory exploded.