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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:28 AM Original message |
I'm going to pay possibly up to 5X more because I'm older??? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. I will not cooperate, and I will fight it if they try to garnish my wages or |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. This plan is a train wreck |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Poison Pill is the term |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
51. Yup, it's DOA |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. The plan was written by Aetna, Cigna, and the Blues |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. This plan will not pass |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. President Obama will be rallying for health insurance reform today, is this the bill |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. This article gives me agita: |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Ditto :( |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. I never hear anyone say "agita" |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I learned that from |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. My mom's family is Sicilian, so it gets lots of usage... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
53. I say agita and I'm Jewish. I guess when you've had a couple of Italian men in your life |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Yeah, Italian men give me agita... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. lol! |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Actually, the actor, Nick Apollo Forte, sang a cool song |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
7. the line for free beer forms over here... |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. So, now, we are going to institutionalize age discrimination????? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Insurance already does this - |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. All the bills also further enshrine discrimination against GLBT families |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Aside from (I assume) not recognzing our marriages |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
83. They speak of subsidies for families |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Until they repeal the marriage discrimination act |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. How do you pay for your current insurance - is it that good of deal? |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. I got diabetes, I bet I pay 5X too! |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. No surcharge for pre-existing conditions |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Just wait till the Supreme Court guts it! |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. No basis for the Supreme Court to overturn that provision |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
60. On what possible basis? |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
11. legitimizing the robbery, it is ridiculous, Baucus is an ass |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
14. We've seen the rebellion of the insane lately. |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. A 50% surcharge if you smoke. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. The "GANG" that came up with this are a |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I'm surprised there isn't a surcharge for skydivers, people with boats, |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. lets call it 500% |
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aroach (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
76. What happens if... |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
16. The Bill Is A Poison Pill... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. like to place a bet? |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. And Your Scenario Is? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. follow the money - |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. How About Pre-Existing Conditions |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I don't think we will see a deviation from the current employer-based system |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. They'll Make It On Umbrella & "Cadillac" Plans |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. tort reform extends beyond this huge issue, unfortunately |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. I am not sure what you are meaning about tort reform |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. do the doctors get malpractice insurance from health insurers? |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #22 |
80. It seems elaborate and risky, but.... |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
17. You have pre-existing age and could pay 7.5X as much. |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
21. I believe the lobbyists wrote this bill outright... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. They did. Many of Baucus's former staffers are lobbyists for the |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
27. fuck that shirt; let's roll back Bush's tax cuts for the rich and fully fund single payer. n/t |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
49. Like Obama promised he would, campaign promises=zero. LOL! |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
81. Obama never promised |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
30. It isn't clear what happens with multiple children... |
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queenjane (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. My health plan has tiers like this |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. It's a relatively standard tier |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
34. couldn't HR3200 conceivably force some into homelessness? nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
59. No. n/t |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. Can we call it 500% for 50 year olds? |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
36. . |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
38. When are the Democrats going to announce their plan |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
42. Older and a single parent here. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
44. Yes, all that and age discrimination in hiring too. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
45. It's hard to find rate comparisons - |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
48. Don't you understand that we are facing a crisis in executive compensation? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
55. I doubt it will ever pass like this, the seniors are a huge block, and they vote |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Remember - seniors from a health care perspective |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
56. What has happened in Massachusetts with a 2-to-1 age rating... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. As a fifty something person, I found this post of yours |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. My pleasure :) n/t |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
57. Let's call this what it is: a BACK DOOR TAX, regressive in application. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
58. 5x seems excessive. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. 7.5 would be smoking + highest age bracket. n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:39 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. People will go uninsured, pay the yearly fine, and go to the ER |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. If you have a shitty job, you will most likely be eligible |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
61. Baucus Bill is DEAD ON ARRIVAL, will not move forward. Baucus I think is a GOP double agent. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
63. "This isn't reform. It's robbery." AMEN |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. This is how private insurance works. What did you expect? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
69. I guess if the Dems are hoping to lose the votes of an entire demographic. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
70. Think we can get age-discrimination passed into corporate taxation? |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
71. It is highway robbery |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
74. I am very very afraid that this is a done deal. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
75. You know that statistic about "older americans have x amount of wealth"? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
79. pssst... bill ain't gonna pass |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
82. If the final bill looks anything like the Baucus Bill... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
84. Ill dump the lousy catastrophic care I have now if they do that |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
85. So much I do not accept as true |
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