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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:01 PM Original message |
Why Did President Obama Exclude Payment for Abortion When He Spoke to Congress? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. don't know. i think he believes there is goodness somewhere in their hearts. i think He's foolish. |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. But getting pregnant is your responsibility. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. so is staying healthy. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. That's right it is. So why do I have to pay for the results? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Same reason you pay uninsured motorists insurance. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. That is an entirely different discussion. This discussion is about paying for pregnancy costs |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I can't figure out where you stand on this except that you don't |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I am saying that if getting pregnant is one's responsibility, then |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. All birth control methods can fail. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. No, I'm saying pregnancy termination should be covered the exact same as pregnancy non-termination. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Ahhh! I got it now. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. In all cases? So we blame the victims of rape and incest? |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not sure what you're talking about |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Correct. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:21 PM Original message |
Oh well |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. It happens. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. The Hyde Amendment prohibits federal funds to be used to pay for pregnancy termination. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. Sometime After Conference Committee... |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. You will lose your bet |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. I am not surprised |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. noamnety says "it will win over zero republicans". I agree. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think it had something to do with not committing political suicide |
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Rude Dog (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. You tell yourself that. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. Abortion is not now paid for with any government program. |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't mind my tax dollars going for birth control of any all kinds, but |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. for any reason? Where do you draw the line...? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
11. Because he feels that "controversial issues" don't belong in getting a Bill Passed |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Well said. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
14. The Hyde Amendment bans using federal funds to pay for abortions |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. +1 |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I was a Federal employee in 1993. And I can tell you that after Bill Clinton became president, |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Clinton had a Powerful "Women's Rights Movement" at His Back... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. That isn't the issue. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. It most certainly is relevant in the context of THIS particular discussion |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. agree...it is the topic ??? |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Thanks for reminding some here of what once was. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. employees' carrier |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. See post #26 for carrier experience. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Henry Hyde is dead |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Fortunately, we have someone here providing the correct perspsective. Thanks, IG. |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. If it means that those poor women and girls.... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. Maybe he feels that the bill won't pass if it doesn't prohibit abortion funding. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'm with your sister, mother and grandmother. But we are talking about Obama here. A man who |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
22. Federal plans could still cover abortion without federal dollars paying for the procedure. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. If the Private Physicians still have control...they can mark on the Insurance "Code" |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Oh, yes it was. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
30. Obama is going to give up on the public option before it's over, so |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Obama is the victim of his "comity." Or, perhaps his true beliefs |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. Pregnant girls and poor women just got thrown under the bus |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
47. i could not agree with you more. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It's because of the ton-ton Macoutes |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
51. I agree with your family-it was a chickenshit and a bullshit move. nt |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Agreed, but probably politically necessary. |
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