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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:13 PM Original message |
Kucinich Voted AGAINST Wilson Reprimand. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kucinich has an interesting past nt |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
179. Do tell. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thinking of the future |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:21 PM Original message |
So Kucinich supports interrupting addresses to Congress with heckling, |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. Representative Kucinich support full censure. Full censure. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Oh, so he was just voting against a good bill because he wanted a better one. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
126. . |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Link? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Self Delete. Posted wrong spot. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
45. not a valid conclusion |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. It's a valid conclusion from the premises offered in the post to which I replied. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. no, it's not |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. Given the premises in the post to which I was replying, yes. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #88 |
150. delete |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #88 |
174. that's an inference |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
111. So you agree that Obama supports torture... |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #111 |
178. Yes |
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Aragorn (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #111 |
180. Yes |
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Indigent (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
138. Obama was opposed the censure |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. This should be interesting. Scooch over, there. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. loll l ol. no heads exploding anyway. .... nah, of course not |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. Don't blame him |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. dont blame him for his vote? who are we suppose to blame, ??? lol lol. nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. I don't blame him. I think it's funny actually. I was an early Kucinich '08 supporter |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. Deleted sub-thread |
ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. Not important? So you are saying that |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
129. Sure, a little ribbing is always welcome |
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MoJoWorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. So, it is ok to apologize for DK, but not for Obama, EVER, huh? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
132. Who is apologizing? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. I would guess there is a reason. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I believe he was insisting upon a full censure. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Of course. All or nothing... in every way. Well I'll give him consistency points, I suppose. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. I'm sure that not having those points from you would keep him up at night |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. True that. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. of course there is a reason. isnt there ALWAYS a reason? nt |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. Kucinich probably was more interested in the health care debate than a decorum breach. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. so he went and voted no???? why not just not be there and be busy with |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Well, first off, I'm not trying to excuse what Kucinich just did. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. even if not a big deal, which it isnt, no sense voting no. you are there, vote fuckin yes.... not |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Well, he voted no. He was obviously protesting something. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. i dont think the other dems ever get this kinda support when they vote against dems |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. Dennis Kucinich loves political point-scoring. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. or he could ahve been angry that the only question was where and how You lie was |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Yes, we all know how DK hates grandstanding and symbolic votes, |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. And by give-and-take I assume you mean giving in to corporate interests. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. Nope. I don't. I mean negotiating. DK has never been any good at that. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. But you do not deny that he is right in his political beliefs, right? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
103. Most of 'em. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. That's what I'm thinking. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. nothing like looking like a united group as about tackle something important like healthcare |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
124. Nice spin.... 9.9 |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #124 |
137. lol, that is funny. nt |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #124 |
139. Read post #23. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. He might have wanted censure. Kucinich rarely compromises. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Not a good excuse, and the reason he is more unreliable |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Well blue dogs ARE reliable republicans, if that is your thing I guess that counts as positive |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Yes he is less reliable because he refuses to give into the bullshit. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. "If all politicians were like Kucinich, shit would get done." |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. No. There is no place for blue dogs just like there is no place for corporatism. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Shit would absolutely not get done. You know how I know that? |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. He's never lead anything because it isn't a fucking whore. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. So 676 could pass Congress, if we didn't have moderates or conservatives in Congress. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. You are attempting to marginalize him by saying that he's in a "dreamland"... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. No, I'm saying he's a marginal politician who could only be successful in the land of your dreams. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. I will gladly take the label "idealist" if it means that I don't act like a fucking dog. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Did anyone offer you that label? I sure didn't. nt |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. You mock me for refusing to compromise on a bill that is better. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Hm? You're not compromising on any bill. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. Your politicians aren't "effective" at doing anything more than giving us candy coated shit. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
93. The problem is Democrats still don't control the legislative agenda. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Democrats do. Liberals don't. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
113. I agree with your assessment of Kucinich, except your last line. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. LOL! nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
101. um, no. there was no bullshit here. the resolution was perfectly reasonable |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. He is very reliable. He votes for what he believes in. You get what you see with him. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. +1 |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Except when picking out republican vice presidents |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. And because of that, Kucinich consistently compromises. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
25. Surprise, surprise, surprise! |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
31. Kucinich voted against a meaningless wrist slap! off with his head! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Live by the bullshit symbolic grandstanding, die by the bullshit symbolic grandstanding. nt |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
109. incoherent anonymous internet bluster; how quaint and rustic. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
182. Get a grip. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. DLCers will continue their orgasms until DK explains his no vote. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. no kidding - this thread is already a glazed donut. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Original message |
Gads. It's like watching a clique of high school girls preening and crowing because they get to diss |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
79. heh. guess they need a goat, coz with dem majorities on the hill and the WH, they still |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. ...and there it is. |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. Kucinich would probably prefer to have an all out brawl to determine... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. He has already cosponsored a fucking bill. It's called HR 676. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. And it will never pass as is. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. They are corporatists. Why is that such an unbelievable concept to you? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. Yawn. nt |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
110. Don't waste your time. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #110 |
122. Didn't you say yesterday that DLC'ers would never |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #110 |
131. I see ignored below my previous post |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #131 |
140. LOL! Thank god you can put your fingers in your ears and, |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #131 |
142. ... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Ummm.... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. That's what I was thinking. I just wanted to verify. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. Bwahahahaaha! ROTFLMFAO! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. This poster is all in a tizzy and thinks he/she is Mary Poppins (see post #55 above) |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Maybe he or she is Mary Poppins. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
157. Is EVERYONE who isn't a pure-red Socialist a Corporatist? Sheesh, I'm tired of these fucking labels. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #157 |
163. These people are so far from socialist that your question is a little bit illogical. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #163 |
169. Did I misread your post? How does that logic work? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. Yes. A bill that had no chance of ever being passed due to his pathological inability to negotiate. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. 676 is the best bill out of all the healthcare bills, is it not? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Yes. But bills aren't inherently any more useful than toilet paper. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. You are using the failed system to argue against someone trying to fix it. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Has DK ever tried to change the rules of order or the composition of the Congress? |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
106. Yes he has. He has supported and continues to support finance reform. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
183. Speaking of pathological. |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
84. Umm.... |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
44. Well save yer popcorn on my behalf... |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. It never ceases to amaze me how some 'Democrats' will insanely grasp onto |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. "who has continually sought to better the lives of average folk" |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Your talking about how Obama is treated on this site, right? |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. I didn't attack Obama, and I am not defending Kucinich. I am just commenting on an observation nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I never said you attacked Obama. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
121. "Your talking..." |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #121 |
176. Yes Mary Poppins (see post #55), I wilz lurnz gramerz |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. It's the hypocricy...they don't mind condemming Pres Obama |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
104. Maybe, but I'm not yet aware of the reason behind DK's no vote. I will wait to hear |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #104 |
120. IT's against the House Rules and I read |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
107. Just bookmark this thread. It's full of defenses that they call b.s. on when we defend Obama |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. Good idea.. I already |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
130. Done! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
86. I did one of those political tests a few years back, and Kucinich's *stated* views |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
52. Of course he did. and the Dennisians will come up with a... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'm still a Kucinich supporter |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
59. So did Jim McDermott. Barney Franks voted "present" |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Frank voted Present because he has a conflict of interest. He was reprimanded before |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. I grow weary of the Democrat vs. Republican game... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Yeah, wilson broke the rules..and the Dems called him OUT |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. It's politics. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Too often it resembles Studio Wrestling n/t |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
152. Well, I can't disagree with you on that. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #152 |
164. It's a 'Burgh thing. (The granddaddy of the WWWF). |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. Whatever |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
83. Thats rich from the people who don't want to |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
105. You didn't get the memo. Us Obama supporters are held to a double standard. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #105 |
136. Apparently I'm not allowed to be pro-Obama |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
135. WHY would you assume such a thing ... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
94. Perhaps he holds the First Amendment in higher esteem than Representative Wilson? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Please describe in detail precisely how ANYTHING Congress considered doing... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. I don't agree that it was - I'm just putting myself in DK's shoes and trying to come up with a |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. LOL the first amendment has nothing to do with this. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
99. Maybe he's considering Joe Wilson as a potential running mate. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #99 |
115. That must be it. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
112. Well, Obama deplored the whole censure thing as a "circus" |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Snap! |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. And maybe Obama isn't a member of the House whose rules were violated. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. Snap! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #112 |
125. Actually, Obama did NOT deplore the rebuke as a circus... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:39 PM Original message |
So he likes SOME acts of the circus then? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
141. Reading comprehension issues? Here's some help |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. Wow, I never understood before that DENNIS KUCINICH IS A RACIST!!111! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:59 PM Original message |
WTF? |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
116. Kucinich is worse than useless. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #116 |
165. He has never accomplished a thing for working people in this country |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #165 |
171. what is his biggest legislative accomplishment? nt |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
118. But Kucinich did vote FOR: |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Those things are only to be condemned when Obama supports them. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #123 |
134. Hammer. Nail. Double. Standard. |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #118 |
128. Woah there Nellie! He only voted for those because he wanted something better later. |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #128 |
172. and only St. D the Perfect may do that. nt |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
133. Dennis has the highest Ppiv in Congress |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
145. So, he refused to join in the marshmallow throw? How awful!! |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
146. Gotta disagree with Dennis on this one |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
153. Pretty obvious - Dennis always had a soft spot for Mr. Wilson |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
154. A lot of people showing their true colors in this thread |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. How Rovian of you. Everyone you disagree with is a Republican. Got it. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. No, but the ones who look for any excuse to bash a good Democrat probably are. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. The same exact shit happens to Obama here. This thread is a perfect reflection of what goes on |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #161 |
184. Then instead of saying "snap", you should be upset about both instances. |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
156. Let's push for a formal reprimand against him, shall we? nt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Voting Yea or No is not a violation of House Rules. |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #158 |
162. I should have used the sarcasm feature. I was trying to make a joke. Imagine one long string of |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. Ah, I see. Sorry I missed that. Although... |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
160. Because this is more like a slap on the wrist than any actual punishment? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
167. What? Kucinich swimming against the tide? I'm shocked. Shocked! |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
168. I don't |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
170. I happen to think Dennis Kucinich's version of "Sixteen Tons" was goddamned |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
173. Equally baffling: Dana Rohrabacher, RW nutcase personified, voted YES. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. Brain swap? |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
177. As I understand it, based on what the news said without actually reading the bill there is no |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #177 |
185. I'm with you on that one. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #177 |
188. Yes, but you neglect those 'Dems' on this board who are ever so desperate |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
181. I love Dennis and have a lot of respect for him and will continue too |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
186. K has a Napoleanic complex!!! |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #186 |
187. naaa. he just isn't into political grandstanding. nt |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
189. Wilson Deserved To Be Chastized! |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
190. why? |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-19-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
191. God, who the hell cares. |
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