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oligarhy (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:08 PM Original message |
O'Keefe and Giles broke many laws in their 'investigation' |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. How about conspiracy? How about interstate flight to avoid prosecution? How about RICO? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. If they could determine that Faux News was fundamentally |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Yours and mine both....K & R I hope they investigate just who funded this little venture.. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Extremely unlikely. Flight would only apply if there was a warrant out for their arrest. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. How about corporate or economic espionage? |
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liam_laddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R Thanks! n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't see that any of those statutes apply to this situation. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Who was present? Was the door closed? Were they discussing tax matters? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Were they there for that reason? No. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Actually they WERE there about tax advice if you've read or seen anything about it so I |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. they were there for general questions, not for tax preparation |
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oligarhy (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. a closed room is a private conversation |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. that's not quite how the statute is written. and the |
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oligarhy (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I might agree with you |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I'm fine with that. I also think ACORN needs to do something |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Some of Those Statues |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. And if they appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Criminal speech is not protected speech. Acorn deals in personal and private information. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. They don't care that rules were broken. They don't play by our rules. |
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oligarhy (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. These two are young, and jail time would take the wind out of their sails |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I'm not an atty and know nothing of these matters but something tells me they will not spend much |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. You need to go look at the penalties.. some are quite draconian. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. "If the President does it. It's legal" is well on it's way to becoming - |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. You know |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. Sadly it won't matter... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
21. You are mistaken; courts have already ruled otherwise |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. The 9th circuit is the most overturned in existence. This is their mistake in the ABC case. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I'm sure there's some reason MLMC didn't appeal it upwards |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It's illegal to defraud the government and it's agencies in any way. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You are not reading the law right |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. umm. It's against the law to eavesdrop on phone calls? really? hummm. |
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oligarhy (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Good one |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. If ACORN were a right wing organization |
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oligarhy (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yes I would |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I think the word your looking for is "whistle blower" |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Umm NO... I don't blame Walmart minimum wage workers, I blame the Walton family. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I blame Walmart minimum wage workers. But that's another thread for another day. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. The right-wing buried the Bush going AWOL story..... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. supply the UNEDITED tape...you can create anything you want on video these days |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
37. Same in DC, yet Linda Tripp didn't even see the inside of a court room. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
41. The Census Bureau and Senate have broken the law in their response to it. |
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