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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:39 PM Original message |
Stop Begging Obama and Get Mad- Chris Hedges |
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PM Martin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. k/r |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. k&r |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. kick n/t |
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lordsummerisle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hedges is brilliant n/t |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. ENOUGH of this Lyndon LaDOUCHE-like anti-Obama HORSESHIT. I am reporting it to site management. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. WAKE.THE.FUCK.UP. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Leftwing Teabaggers are the ones who need to wake up. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
83. ++++++1 |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
100. At least in Canada she would have SPHC. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. I'm sure Stephen Harper would welcome you with open arms. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #107 |
153. That's what Freepers say. nt |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #153 |
165. The Freepers will be in line with you trying to escape |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #165 |
211. Corporatist like you are destroying America. Go back to the corporatist party, we dont want you. nt |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #211 |
223. so obama supporters are all corporatists? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #223 |
235. No, and I didn't say that at all. I am a Pres Obama supporter. This poster is telling |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #235 |
239. rhett, i think the poster is quite worked up because he's fighting with a bunch of people who |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. Thank you for the civil response. I get a little irrate when I hear people on here that |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #241 |
243. the problem i fear is not obama, but i worry about the congress. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #243 |
245. I still have faith in Pres Obama. Congress not at all. We have allowed our |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #211 |
226. Do you have a brain, or are you just a talking points generating |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #226 |
228. shut up you corporatist nazi!!11!!11!!11 go roll around in your piles of money... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #226 |
237. You wish I were a bot. Then you and your corporatist friends could have full reign of the party. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
186. So are you saying that we should sit back and accept what Pres Obama does for us? Not lobby for our |
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Ulysses_The_Red (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
254. Red baiting takes on new lows |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
92. GO BACK TO SLEEP LIKE YOU HAVE FOR THE PAST MANY YEARS. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
121. +1000 |
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GCP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
208. . |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. That's a creepy post |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Perhaps satire? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. You mean nutjobs like Hedges who think Obama=Bush/Cheney? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
79. Nope |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
110. The electorate didn't demand single payer. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. the majority supports single payer. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. A majority believes evolution is a myth. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. lol. they understand ithe implications better than they understand the |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #128 |
189. You have any proof of that? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. I favor making everyone eligible to buy into Medicare. nt |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
77. +1 |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
101. Your argument would make some sense were it not |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #101 |
162. Some people here think that a dead child in Afghanistan |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
117. I'm with you. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
122. chris hedges = larouchite? link please. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
195. Heil Obama! |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #195 |
227. that sounds like something a republican would say. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #227 |
244. Quick on the uptake are you? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #244 |
262. that is, something a repub would say, or a democrat bitter to the core that he won. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #262 |
263. I voted for him |
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Ulysses_The_Red (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
255. Shut up and fall in line |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. Kick |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yes, the frustration is definitely growing....and growing...and growing. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Author is a Lyndon LaDOUCHE-like fool, and our job is to attack RePUKES not Obama. Piss on him ! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. THere is still freedom of speech on DU, and if you don't like that... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
62. Your crowd thinks Obama=Bush/Cheney, so indeed why should |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
174. you need a new playbook. |
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JoseGaspar (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
181. And your crowd thinks politics is fantasy football. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I'll attack anyone, who is working for corporate interests over the peoples. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Then you should not be on a Democratic website. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Democrat does not equal blind loyalist |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. So says the guy with a Lenin picture in his sig. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. you sure got the rw smear tactics down pat |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. There's a core of common sense and wisdom in leftism. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. i will reply to you piece by piece |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Hedges is a well-known "Nader was right' ideologue who |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
124. funny. hedges was a war correspondent. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #124 |
247. I love how people who have never been in the trenches, |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
129. So Hedges' ideology = bad but yours = good? n/t |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #129 |
137. Hedges's ideology isn't the problem--it's his fundamentalism, purism, |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. It's always amusing to see Democratic Party loyalists accuse others of being "purists". |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. You Bush=Gore/Obama=Bush are the real intellectual giants. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. You don't care for democracy? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Well, you got what you wanted in 2000 and 2004. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. So, democracy is OK with you when you like the results. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #150 |
160. We have to live with the results of bad decisions in a |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. The left is available to Obama, all he has to do is move away from the "middle". |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Republicans and you Naderites are an unholy alliance. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. Hogwash. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #169 |
190. Lord, when are some going to stop calling out Nader? GORE LOST mostly because he ran |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #190 |
200. Leave Ralphhhiiiiiee alooooonnnnee! nt |
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Ulysses_The_Red (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:01 AM Response to Reply #67 |
257. "Organized Labor" |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #58 |
89. "undermine his agenda", no way |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #105 |
127. I would be happy with single payer and exiting the ME. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
95. Deleted sub-thread |
Ulysses_The_Red (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
256. Going for a gold medal in red baiting today |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
93. hookay comrade.... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
191. You are saying that the Democratic Party is for CorpAmerica and therefore those that cant |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #191 |
196. Kucinich got |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #196 |
201. What? Kucinich got what? You aren't saying that 99% of the party favors the DLC? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #201 |
224. He got less than 1% of the vote in the primaries. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #224 |
261. Wrong again. My "litmus test" is if you support the people not corporations. |
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GCP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
214. So Democratic now equals Corporatist ? |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #214 |
248. That's what he appears to be saying. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #30 |
246. Sorry pal, I'm a former Democratic Congressional candidate. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. Teddy Roosevelt on criticism of the President. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. And this is DEMOCRATIC (aka PARTY) Underground, and not the place to attack OUR president like this. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. we are not goosesteppers here |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. No one who agrees with Hedges can honestly call themselves |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Lots of people here aren't Democrats. They're leftwing Teabaggers. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
88. Geez |
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Pennelope Pennebaker (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
90. No, actually |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
202. And you would sell out Americans to the health insurers. And you call yourself a Democrat? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
203. Self delete, duplicate. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
249. And some kool-aid drinkers are insane. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
250. No, actually we're just reccing it to piss you off! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
86. Deleted sub-thread |
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
131. if democrats can't debate policy here, where the fuck *is* the right "place"? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. This isn't a policy debate. It's an open declaration of war |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. bull. it's a policy debate. unless you're suggesting a purge is in order under the 'big tent'? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Hedges says Obama=Bush and that people should STOP |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #136 |
155. obama specifically asked for policy input from the public. now *you're* saying if we don't |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. Hedges doesn't believe in lobbying Obama. He believes in |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. lol. obama asked people to hold his feet to the fire. so we are, unlike |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. Obama=Bush isn't accountability. It's mindless partisan bashing |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
145. This is not a football game |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #145 |
170. "continuing Bush's policies." |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #170 |
176. Hello? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. Scheduled withdrawal of ALL US troops by 2011 from Iraq, the |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #179 |
187. Disagree |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #187 |
199. Yes, if Obama pushes it, it must be irrelevant. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #199 |
204. Again |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. tool indeed |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Ha. You described yourself as a supporter of Obama |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
96. Deleted message |
jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
13. k&r |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
15. it is good to be a bank or insurance corporation (same difference) |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Now that you've ranted and raved, Chris,...will you get off the boose and help us? |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. He IS helping us, sicksick. He's helping us by reminding some of us and educating others |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Please, do not patronize me or assume me ignorant or asleep on any of those issues. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. You can't agree with Hedges and support Obama. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Question |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Who received more money in small donations from ordinary Americans |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Oh but wait |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Not Obama. But thank you for spreading misinformation. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. You admit that you are an opponent and not a supporter of Obama. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Personal integrity |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Increase in US presence in Iraq? Talk about integrity. nt |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Obama has become little more than a front man for |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Then Democrats are your political enemies. You are not our ally. nt |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I campaigned for Obama in 2008. I won't be |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Deleted message |
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59. Deleted sub-thread |
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
138. lol. the poster campaigned & voted for obama. he has as much reason to be here as you. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Deleted message |
SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
104. +1 |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. but obama IS a corporatist |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Eh, there's no debating things with Leninists to whom everyone |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. again |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. It's not leftism, it's ideologically fundamentalist leftists. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. you sound like the best rw stooge. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. No, stooges are the ones who suggest that Obama is a fascist |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS THREAD THAT HAS SAID THIS |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. You said I was supporting fascism because I disagree that Obama |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. i never said that |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #76 |
98. the hell you're not implying it though, comrade. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
103. Deleted message |
dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. shall we bring it up with the commissar? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
126. Alles klar, Herr Komissar? nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
140. he didn't say that. not only can't you argue on the basis of policy, you |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Hedges is a Naderite wanker who bloviates from behind a keyboard. nt |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
87. And? That Doesn't Make What He Wrote Any Less True. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. Naderites are the world's biggest fools and collectively |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. Again, And? What Does Your Opinion of the Author Have to Do With the Truth of His Article? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. He's pushing Naderism and Teabaggerism. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. He's Pointing Out that Obama Is a Corporatist. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. Not all of us are Naderites who want to destroy the Democratic |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #130 |
144. when "democrat" = "republican + abortion," the party is doing a fine job of destroying itself. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. Yes, it's that simple. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #130 |
161. I Don't Give Two Shits WHICH Party Gives Me What I Want, As Long As I Get What I Want. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. I have a much more nuanced view of Obama than your crowd does. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #163 |
172. Anyone Who Doesn't View ALL Politicians With Suspicion Is a Child |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. Homophobia, ad hom insults, and lies. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #175 |
178. Homophobia - That's a Good One. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. Yes, insulting Obama supporters |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. I'm Not Insulting the Activity OR the People Who Engage In It |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #184 |
198. I love how people who completely unaccomplished in their own life |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #198 |
212. And I Love How People Who Don't Understand How Democracy Works Look Down On Those Who Do |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #212 |
229. do you *really* consider trashing obama on a message board as some kind of noble activism? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #229 |
236. No, That's Just Fun. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. "keeping your head up Obama's ass" uh, not really. but you may continue to work yourself into a rage |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #198 |
219. . |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #184 |
218. well, you have clearly expressed your hatred of obama. let it simmer, and hold it close. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #218 |
222. Oh, Sweetie, I Don't Waste My Hate On Obama. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #222 |
225. dunno, he seems to really piss you off |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #225 |
233. That's Only Because You're Drunk. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. you don't make a bit of sense dude... you ooooooze hate for the guy, and |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #161 |
215. so obama's just in it for the money? give me a fucking break. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #215 |
216. Not At All. He's In It Primarily For the Power. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #130 |
206. When the Democratic Party let the corporatists in like you, the part is destroyed. nt |
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Ulysses_The_Red (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:06 AM Response to Reply #130 |
258. Democratic |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #106 |
207. So you support Glenn Beck's pinky. Fuck off asshole. nt |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R - tiny changes that someday maybe someone somewhere might believe int.. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
21. k/r |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
25. Kick! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. More horsecrap from DU's Democrat-hating, Naderite, Republican-aiding and abetting brigade. |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
78. Rahm, is that you? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
109. Ralph, is that you? |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
35. during the last depression in the 1930s |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. How does declaring war on Obama help beat back the forces |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. the issue is bigger than obama |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I would support an effective one. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. a viable one encompasses an effective one |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. The one that exists has contempt for the 98% of the country that |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. you just puked your true colors |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Yes, because I support the fascist Obama. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. i don't think you're even an Obama supporter |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Well, your judgment is Rumsfeldian. nt |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. i think you are in over your head |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
125. I haven't seen you post a relevant fact to back |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. geek tragedy, I'd really like to see you argue your points instead of resorting to name calling. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. The other individual accused me of being a paid operative |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. why do you persist in ATTEMPTING to put words in other people's mouths? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
148. i don't think he is either. |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
99. i suspect that why we have not effective left wing is because |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
209. +1 |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
251. Perhaps |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
60. Considering junior's and DC's abysmal ratings as their reign ended, I guess it would have been to |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
69. Rec for Chris Hedges! |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
81. Blah Blah Blah |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
85. Yep, the left has Teabaggers too. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
91. "The right wing is not wrong. It is not the problem. " what a pile of horse shit. this hedges guy |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
94. How dare you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. "He is squandering the country’s future with deficits that can never be repaid" |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
142. This site gets lots of page views from the Obama haters. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #111 |
232. you don't say. i was starting to get that impression myself... |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
97. Right on brother telling it straight, it is now or we are doomed to the worst. kr nt |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
102. K&R!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
112. Deleted sub-thread |
Cowpunk (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
115. Exactly right! The American people know they're getting screwed |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
116. But..but..fighting lost wars and caving to the corporations is good for the party!! |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
119. Refute this!!! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #119 |
154. Well said. Looks like they can't. They just have hyperbole and rhetoric. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #119 |
157. vernacular definition of socialism = "welfare state" |
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obamachangetheworld (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #119 |
171. Excellent Points, n/t. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #119 |
231. excellent break down. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
135. Just a side note: Sen. Kennedy always regretted not dealing with Nixon. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
146. IF OBAMA WERE A CORPORATIST as this article suggests |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. Hmmm |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. That doesn't make him a corporatist. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. What does that make him in your opinion? n/t |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Why don't you define the term, because whatever you think it is, isn't what it really is. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #158 |
188. Words have real meanings. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. I'm not redefining the word. The OP is. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:52 AM Response to Reply #188 |
252. "Corporatism |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #158 |
220. Hey that's pretty cool |
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obamachangetheworld (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
167. Chris Hedges is a Wanker. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #167 |
183. Read his books and get back to us n/t |
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obamachangetheworld (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #183 |
205. LOL? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #167 |
210. And you know that how? nt |
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obamachangetheworld (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #167 |
217. I have read some of his stuff onTruthdig, and part of War is a force and seen him on CBC |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
177. Hedges is, IMO, spot on about the continued occupations of both Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. The fact that Hedges is such a contentious figure @DU speaks to its dominant moderate registrants |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #182 |
185. True, and IMNSHO, "moderate" equates to "corporate" ... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #182 |
221. And Hedges has been saying |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
194. K&R. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
197. Great article |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
213. I'm giving this a K&R |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
230. K+55R |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
240. its ok to call out this admin but to push that rw is right is pure bs |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
242. K&+R |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
253. The OP belongs on Trotskyist Underground, not Democratic Underground |
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Ulysses_The_Red (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:09 AM Response to Reply #253 |
259. Because you have no legitimate argument against it. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
260. Kick for the apoplectic hystericals.. |
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