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Bill219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:18 PM Original message |
My 6 year old want to join the scouts |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. There is no "oath" in a belief in God. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. (shrug) Looks like an oath to gawd to me. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. So how is that oath to god not an oath to god again? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I think he had a "cocaine is a helluva drug" moment. |
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el_bryanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. The difference may between an oath to believe in God and an oath to do your duty to God |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. So you have to promise to do your duty to something that you think doesn't exist? |
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el_bryanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Yeah - but the whole thing is at once removed anyway |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
97. Scout Oath demands reverence.. |
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el_bryanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. How do you define Reverence? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #99 |
160. One can revere nature and life. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Well, if one does not believe in God, then an oath to do one's duty to God is a no-brainer. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. So the scout's duty would be to expose god as a fraud? |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. If you would read Indydems post you would see that |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. If you were to read Indydem's post you would see that |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
183. If you were to read Indydem's post you would see that |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
182. Because you don't have to say the "Duty to God" bit? |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. and a Homophobic Organization as well |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
95. What does the Scout Oath say? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. "boy scout oath or promise" |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
109. "OBEY the LAW of the Pack"? |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
167. I was in GS...if I remember it correctly ours was |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
188. Sorry, IndyDem, but that's bullshit. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. My son joined the Scouts; my partner was an Eagle Scout. We live up in rural MN and the Boy Scouts |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
120. They'll strip him of his Eagle Scout level... |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #120 |
147. Strip whom of his Eagle Scout level? My partner? He's not a scout leader at all. I threw that in |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. "maybe he does" |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. I did read the article at the link. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #151 |
153. It is about letting him join an organization that rejects atheists, agnostics and gay people. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #153 |
164. I see what you're saying. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #164 |
172. I think I'd make the same choice if I had a son who REALLY wanted to join. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #172 |
184. :) nt |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #164 |
180. So as long as your son doesn't turn out to be an atheist, agnostic, or gay, it's all good, right? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Hyperbole much? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:13 AM Response to Reply #181 |
189. Glad to know I struck a nerve. n/t |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #189 |
192. More like a funny bone. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Is there an alternative group? |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
77. campfire is another good one |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Make him watch Arlington Road |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. That was really funny. nt |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
161. ... |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. Let him do it - if you've raised him well, he'll get tired of the bullshit and drop out |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
124. +1 That's exactly what I did and that is exactly what happened |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Encourage him to join Camp Fire. |
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Bill219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
68. Campfireusa sounds great |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. There's a campaign to expand. If you contact the national org, |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Consider 4-H. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
129. I could tell you stories about 4-H |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
78. oops, didn't see your post before I replied above. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
92. I thought that was for girls? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
135. Boys and girls nt |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. IF you let him join a bigoted group, he will be subject to their bigotry. That is a decision YOU |
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Dollface (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Depends on the people running the troop. My cousin is an Eagle Scout and a godless liberal. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. It's a good experience taken with a grain of salt of course. You learn |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Homophobia=civic-mindedness. Interesting. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. Fair enough. I was not very familar with their rigid principles. I officially retract my endorse- |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. You cannot allow him to join a group that you are morally opposed to. |
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cyberswede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. I leave out all the god stuff in our den |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. So you're teaching children to be dishonest. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
14. Me too when I was six and my mother and father |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. We were in the same situation six years ago -- we started our own group. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. There's already an inclusive group out there. I'm active in a Camp Fire alumni group, |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Camp Fire is good, and we looked into it. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I'm just stunned by how progressives can shrug off homophobia. nt |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Yep. It was heartening that when we started our own group many of the parents |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. I was a scout for the better part of a couple weeks. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. If he wants to do it, let him. |
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Bill219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
21. My 6 year old want to join the scouts |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. my kids have been thrown into differing views from day one and have had to deal |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. That's tough - at that age, he's not going to appreciate the "moral stance"... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. While scouts does not force your son to be religious, you may be uncomfortable |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I had the same visceral reaction when my son joined 2 years ago. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. It hasn't ruined your child yet? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
60. I'm disappointed to learn of a UCC sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop. |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
108. There's something to be said about creating opportunites for change from within |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #108 |
134. The two largest contributors to BSA are the Mormon Church and the Methodist Church. |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #134 |
140. ...and?? you've completely ignored the point I made about influenceing change |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Why would anyone feel a need to change the Boy SCouts? |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I plan on having my sons |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Well said |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
86. Thanks |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
118. Girl Scouts are different |
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Rambis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. We run the troop |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. There are alternative organizations that may have chapters in your community. |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. My experience is that all troops are different... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. But. even if individual troops are cool, by joining scouts you're still supporting the organization |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Somewhere upthread it was stated... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
142. What if your son discovers he's gay? |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #142 |
166. wouldn't be a problem at all... |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Cub Scouts was pretty harmless and he enjoyed it... |
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angrychair (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
130. I am shocked at some of the responses |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
32. I would meet with the troop leaders... |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. This is the single most useful response in this entire thread. (nt) |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Thank you. n/t |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
169. Yes, every troop is different. I was in BSA 20+ years ago and it was a very positive |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
35. I would not let my kid join the scouts for all the money in the world. |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. you are only seeing scouts at the national level... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Yep-I am not materialistic. nt |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. I was in Scouts (cub and above) for most of my childhood in three different states... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. It's easier to just say no to a kid from the get go than try and get him out of the group later. |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. That's why Cub Scouts encourages parent participation. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. All you need is one rethug fundie to ruin the entire thing. That's why I say why bother? |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. It seems like you're giving Scouting a bad rap based off a pre-concived notion |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #101 |
137. All it takes is for one rethug fundie to show up at ANYTHING |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
37. So you protect the child from any beliefs other than your own |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. By joining the scouts, you are supporting an anti-gay group. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. I agree completely. nt |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
104. Doesn't the Parent Have a Responsibility to Raise a Good Child? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
143. we all indonctrinate our children. |
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qb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
43. My son is an atheist, and I'm a gay atheist. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. It IS the national organization. It's a chapter of the whole org. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
45. You should definitely let intolerance of religion motivate you to scar your son for life. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. How does belonging to a blatantly homophobic org teach tolerance? |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. I think you have made your point |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. The national organization is anti-gay, and there is no getting around that. |
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Jokerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. It's the scouting organization that preaches intolerance. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
105. Absolutely. After He's Done With the Scouts Meeting, You Can Take Him to a Klan Rally |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #105 |
150. Al Gore was an Eagle Scout |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. I'm Suggesting That Any Current or Former Scout Is/Was a Member of a Hate Group |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
144. It's upside down world |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'm an Eagle Scout, and my experience... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. How fortunate for you that you're straight (or closeted). If you were gay and out |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. I certainly don't agree with the BSA's views on gay rights... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
125. Blame the Methodist church. They chartered and still support the organization. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #125 |
133. I do blame the Methodist Church. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
111. I would say that... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
67. let him make up his own mind. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
71. This Godless Liberal was Cubmaster... |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
72. My son wanted to join the scouts |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
73. Use Lewis Black's solution to the "Pledge of Allegiance" |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. And how do you deal with the homphobia? nt |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
87. That's my question, too. I can imagine a boy having invested a lot of time |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
115. Simple. I don't join the scouts. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #73 |
162. Besides, so many of us ARE under Dog. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
76. I was a Cubmaster, and am today an ASM |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. But do the troops have to pay dues to the organization? That's the |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
113. Depends on the troop. |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
80. It is a "troop" thing - if you have whackos running the local troop, |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. +1 |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
81. Be glad that he wants to join Boy Scouts |
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politicallore (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
112. agreed |
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akwapez (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
84. I had an OP months back based on this same issue |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
89. Let him join |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
90. My son was indoctrinated into Christianity from birth so I didn't |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
91. Aside from their open discrimination against atheists and gays, |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
93. I was a Cub Scout back in the 1950s |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
94. I had fun when I was in... |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
100. My daughters are in Girl Scouts. The daughters of an atheist father who is the son |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #100 |
119. the question was about Boy Scouts, |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Touche |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #100 |
168. Girl Scouts has a non-discrimination policy, which is clearly stated. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
102. Why not be sensible about it, go meet the local troop, it's leaders etc. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
103. As an... |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
107. Both my boys were in the Boy Scouts and.............. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
114. Share his excitement, and sign him up |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
116. He wants to do it for the right reasons. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
117. Find out who's running the troop |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
121. Look around to see if your local Unitarian Universalist church sponsors a troop... |
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sazerac (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
123. He's six |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
126. No way in hell I'd let my kid be a Scout. I refuse to be complicit |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
127. I told my kids no and told them why and they respected my wishes. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
128. I was a den leader in Mexico, and if I had kids |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
131. Probably important to find an alternative. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
132. Probably important to find an alternative. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
136. I was in the Cub Scouts, and no one said anything about gays being evil |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #136 |
155. So You'd Let Your Son Join an Organization That Excluded Blacks, As Long As No One Talked About It. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #155 |
170. The comparison and it's implication is ridiculous |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Please Explain Why the Comparison Is Ridiculous. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. Because it's an organization for young children |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #173 |
177. Good God, You're Serious. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Man, you need some serious help |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. I Never Once Accused the Boy Scouts Of Indoctrination |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
138. I understand and share your concerns. Just remember he's 6...and not as affected as you are. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
139. Scouting can be very helpful to a kid |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
145. Not sure if this has been mentioned but |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
146. Try to find a group he can join that you may agree with or start your own! |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
149. Let him join. I suspect many 6 year olds don't care about what concerns adults. |
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buzzycrumbhunger (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
154. We did Boy Scouts for over a decade |
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wedgered2 (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
156. I am conflicted as well... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. Welcome to DU, wedgered2! |
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voteearlyvoteoften (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
157. Camping!!!! |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
158. Does he say the pledge of allegiance? It has god too. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
163. Meh, I joined the scouts when I was 7, I was in for a grand total of 3 weeks. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
165. I was a Scout in NYC for several years. Our troop gave a "Fuck You" to the National Council |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
174. Aww.. let the kid join! Let your child make up his own mind later on.... |
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IdClaire (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
175. we started our six year olds this year... |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
176. If you think the scouts are in some way |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
185. Wow. This Thread Is Really Enlightening. |
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astral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
186. Being exposed to religion or God seems to be like being exposed |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #186 |
190. I suppose some of this thinking is kind of the inverse of fundamentalist home schoolers |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
187. This thread has not gone well. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
191. For what it's worth...I don't think is LEGAL in some states for the school to hand out flyers... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
193. I'd want them to be adults before they joined bigot groups |
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