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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 08:50 PM
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Blue Dogs dig in as influential bloc in health care debate

While half of DU has been wetting their pants over Obama's speech and ignoring the implications of the actual content (mandated private insurance, a 'public option' that is not a public option and only is projected to enroll about 5% of the population & even that pathetic gesture being on the table to be dropped)...the Blue Dogs are digging in to dictate the legislation. Obama made a beautiful case for the REASON we need health reform, but his plan ultimately sucked. It has been surreal to watch a DU that for months has almost unanimously been joined behind either a STRONG public option or single payer, sing the praises of a speech that touted cuts to Medicare & Medicaid to subsidize a private insurance mandate.

People better stop getting all dewey eyed over the salesman, and pay attention to the actual policy being proposed, NOW. Private insurance mandates and billions cut to existing government health programs was not what Obama campaigned on, and it is a betrayal to the American people to try and force through a system that hinges on the entities that broke it in the first place.

WASHINGTON -- In many ways, President Barack Obama's address to Congress on Wednesday was aimed at lawmakers like Georgia Reps. Jim Marshall and Sanford Bishop -- fiscally conservative Democrats who represent rural enclaves and small towns in ideologically moderate to conservative Southern districts.

"In my opinion, the demographics of the Blue Dog Coalition reflect more accurately the demographics of the entire United States of America ," Bishop said. "Most Americans are centrists. Where I come from the values are God, country, family, work and guns, and not necessarily in that order."

During his speech Wednesday night, the president sought to assuage the concerns of the Blue Dogs -- a group of 52 moderate to conservative House Democrats from largely rural or small-town districts -- by highlighting the administration's goals of reigning in spending by eliminating Medicare and Medicaid fraud. Obama also reached out to centrists by scaling back proposed costs to $900 billion over 10 years -- some House estimates had put the plan at $1.2 trillion .

Obama also touched on medical liability reform and relaxed his stance on a government-run public health care option -- the so-called "public option" -- by highlighting the broader goal of insuring Americans as more important than offering a government-run plan. All are issues that, as Bishop put it, are "principles that are consistent with the Blue Dog principles."

MORE HERE.....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3310750
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:00 PM
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1. You might have a more receptive audience here
if you could post your thoughts without being so insulting.

"While half of DU has been wetting their pants over Obama's speech"
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:32 PM
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6. Frankly, I have lost patience with the Obama cheerleading squad

On this board...

Given their behavior, I consider 'pants wetting' pretty light.

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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:34 PM
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7. "Their" behavior? About fellow DUers? Niiiiiiice. n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:02 PM
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2. Grow up.
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 09:03 PM by cliffordu
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:23 PM
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5. Brilliant retort - really add to the dialogue
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:07 PM
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9. As much as the OP did. I like brevity.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:18 PM
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3. Yahoo doesn't seem to like telling the truth. I mean they don't do it very often and not this time
either.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:04 PM
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4. Maybe it's time to stop digging.
If they want to be Republicans so bloody much, let them go.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:35 PM
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8. If there's a problem, Blue Dogs will do as little a possible to solve it
the less the better! :think:
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:14 AM
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10. Surreal
New guy here. I have lurked for over a year now, often times mesmerized by the daily parade and depth of humanity here at DU.

Count me among the numbers who view the speech, the policy proposals and DU's response as nothing less than "surreal", as suggested by the OP.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:23 AM
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11. Sorry.. what did you say?
My eyes are still misty and starry eyed, and I had to change my diaper.
:eyes:







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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:34 AM
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12. are you an activist? if so GET THE FUCK OFF THIS PAGE, and make an impact where it will counts
you think coming here and being the DU CRYER is helping???

I fell your pain...go run for office, stand on a street corner, or hand out pamphlets at Walmart.

You are accomplishing NOTHING here.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:38 AM
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13. Unrec for derisive and crappy tone, as well as propagandizing
Plus, doesn't the article describe a problem with the right wing of the Democratic party rather than the paragraph of nastiness the OP actually writes?

Everything gets watered down because the do nothing wing of the party is backed up by 40 NAYS!!! It just takes a few knuckleheads to fuck everything up with the useless blackhole of no sucking everything to the right but you can't pass on a chance to lash out at either Obama or the larger Democratic party.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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