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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:06 PM Original message |
Obama: "(Public Option) would only be an option for those who don’t have insurance." |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. SO, if you have insurance (even if it's bad) you have to keep it? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. For now. nt |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Bernie Sanders via Matt Taibb... |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. And that is a problem |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Put everyone that works for WalMart in that boat... |
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abelenkpe2 (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. How does it effect businesses |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Big business yes...Small business no... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. That's not true. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Bernie Sanders...ProSense.... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. What? Did you miss the link to the NYT? n/t |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. From what I'm reading, if your company has a crap plan, you have four choices: |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 07:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. Bernie - PS is spewing BS as usual... |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. Exactly, and what's troubling is Rahm and Obama know that. |
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geek_sabre (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
68. "If you like your insurance plan, good, because you have to keep it" |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Gets it in the door |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Was it a dealbreaker before? |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. Can't you just drop your insurance plan and get on the public option? |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. No, not if your employer offers a plan (as far as I can tell). |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. The devil is in the details. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Three details to look for: |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Answers: |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Correct except for #2: |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I have a serious question. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's the perfect solution for his problem |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. yep. this aint what i worked for. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Me too. This sucks for me. I pay my own insurance because I am too ill to work. |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. Health insurance companies skim off the cream |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. And so it would fail. We had that option in FL also, along with |
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abelenkpe2 (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. See that's how I understood it too |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. Perfect dumping ground for the sick with ins. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. Did I hear wrong, or would the public option still involve paying a premium |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. yes, that was always going to be the case |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. A public option you have to pay for (it collects premiums) that will serve only 5% of the people |
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. He said the studies showed only about 5% of people would sign up for it. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. He also said it wouldn't be subsidized by the government. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
17. knr nt |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. None of this is new |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
22. So? |
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kwolf68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. Sounds JUST like my dad |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Thank you |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. If you have insurance, you are covered. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. What if you work for WalMart and have really crappy insurance? |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. exactly! |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. Having insurance doesn't mean you can get health care. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
26. OMG... are you saying that people who speculated were WRONG?! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
28. I thought it was disappointing... I was hoping for something better... |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
30. There are 50 million of us who don't have insurance. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. And only 10 Million will be in the Public Option after 10 years. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Where did you come up with the 10 million in 10 years figure? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Here's a good article by Physicians for Health Care Reform.. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. The Congressional Budget Office.... |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
35. Guess I need to cancel my private insurance then... |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. I wonder if I can quit my insurance? My husband's retirement bonds pay for it now and |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
36. "No one would be forced to choose it" |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. See post #11 |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I know. Why can't people see this?? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. See Post #11 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. See post #56. n/t |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. K & R - - - The public option MUST be available TO ALL WHO CHOOSE - - - We have compromised enough!! |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. Thanks for this post - - - This is one of 1000 ways K street has to cripple the public plan!!!! |
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cushla_machree (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
45. Here is what annoyes me |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. This should be a MAJOR issue and it should be changed.... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. Too many people have been pretending that a Public Option was just another name for single payer. |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. It should be called a "SELECTED FEW" option, not PUBLIC option. |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
59. Doy! Why would you want to be insured twice? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
61. He's wrong. Insurance companies provide a disservice and should be eliminated |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
62. That kinda takes the "option" out of the equation, eh? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
66. Kick |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
73. . |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
67. "They provide a legitimate service..." I disagree |
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Tampa Rob (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Absolutely correct. The bottom line issue that gets no airtime. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Welcome to DU Tampa Rob! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
72. I have individual insurance which is very expensive and |
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