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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 08:44 PM Original message |
Provocative question: Why must we liberals always reduce the definition of power down... |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because two-dimensional, |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 04:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. "without the benefit of historical perspective or knowledge" |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That's an interesting conclusion - |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. it's not a "conclusion". |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Oh, really? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. really. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You know, |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. nothing but personal attack from the get-go. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yeah, right - |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Try this on for size then: |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. Power is the ability to get others to think or behave differently than they would on their own |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 03:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. money is the #1 way to do so on a mass basis. it costs money to use media, |
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Carl Skan (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's not just liberals |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. Speak for yourself (with all due respect here) |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. I honestly think it IS always the money. It's always the fucking money. Always. nt |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. There are many types & definitions of power. |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. I do not think that power is necessarily achieved only through money. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 04:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. koresh's church = about 100 people, jones' = about 900. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's the power. Not the money. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's simple. The reality is that, in the America of 2009, power, and nothing else, |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. Economic power is political power. |
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david13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. Money is power and power is money. Money |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. if i'm thinking about THIS country and the masses -- |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
13. The love of money is the problem? Are you sure? |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
14. Sometimes I talk about the power of love, and you know |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. sure you can. or rather, significant *differences* in wealth destroy love. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I suppose. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. family relationships & friendships too. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Yours? I'm so sorry. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. now why would you make that personal assumption? |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. My first thought was |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Why are love relationships always considered by folks to be limited to |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Sure. Isn't that one of the primary lessons of history? |
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voc (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 04:07 AM Response to Original message |
16. He who controls the money controls the people.... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
28. Money confers power. See Lord Acton's axiom for what happens then. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. Money is a reason some liberals give to want to control your life (like christians use jesus/sin) |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. No because to obtain true power money is needed and the fact is it matters greatly |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
32. When everyone admits to the existence of the elephant in the living room... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-31-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
38. Try this on for size then: |
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