Police found girl, missing since 1991, while quizzing rapist

[babylonsister]

Sex offender, wife arrested for girl's 1991 abduction
By Bill Lindelof, Kim Minugh and Sam Stanton
Published: Thursday, Aug. 27, 2009 - 11:53 am
Last Modified: Thursday, Aug. 27, 2009 - 1:33 pm


Phillip Craig Garrido, a registered sex offender, is reportedly a suspect in the abduction of Jaycee Lee Dugard.

A 58-year-old convicted rapist and registered sex offender and his wife have been arrested in connection with the 1991 abduction of 11-year-old Jaycee Lee Dugard, who surfaced alive in the Bay Area on Wednesday after disappearing for 18 years.

Authorities were swarming the neighborhood on Walnut Avenue in Antioch where Phillip Craig Garrido, a 6-foot, 4-inch, 196-pound registered sex offender lived with his wife, Nancy Garrido, is listed on the state's Megan's Law sex offender Web site as being convicted of rape.

State parole officials said Garrido came to their attention after someone reported suspicious activity because he was seen near UC-Berekley with two small children.

On Wednesday, parole agents and Concord police brought Garrido in for questioning, along with the two children and an adult female. During questioning, authorities said, Garrido confessed that he had abducted Dugard and the adult woman in his company revealed that she was Dugard.

Garrido had served time in a federal prison in Nevada for sexual assault.

more...

http://www.sacbee.com/1310/story/2143666.html

[lamp_shade]

1. More and more details coming out. I can't wait to hear the whole story.

[redqueen]

2. I wonder how much time this sicko served for the sexual assault.

He shouldn't see the outside of a prison for the rest of his life.

[Name removed]

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[Papa Boule]

48. Prison rape is never a proportional sentence. n/t

[armyowalgreens]

50. ugh. Yes the man should be raped in prison for the rest of his life...

:sarcasm:

[TheDebbieDee]

3. How long will it be before some tunnel-visioned poster

bashes Jaycee for not escaping sooner............

[Pangolin2]

4. Would a question like just wondering why she didn't run away after reaching 18 years

be permitted?

Because I sure do wonder.

[Blue Diadem]

6. Stockholm syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[Pangolin2]

18. Yes, I'm familiar with the Stockholm syndrome, and I don't doubt it exists for some.

Would it really be all that possible inside a free society like the USA? I'm not disputing it, just trying to understand how such a thing could function.

[girl gone mad]

22. Well, obviously..

she just enjoyed being raped by this ugly old schizo freak too much to leave.

:sarcasm:

[Pangolin2]

25. Well, obviously you are intimately familiar with all the sordid details.

Strangely enough though, I don't remember asking you for them.
:eyes:

[LisaL]

28. What on Earth does Stockholm syndrome have to do with

free society?
It's a condition upon which (in order to survive) a person becomes empathetic toward the abuser.
It has nothing to do with the country in which this person is in.

[PassingFair]

35. She had her two children to think about...

maybe he threatened to harm them.

It is EASY to warp an 11 year old...

[JenniferJuniper]

43. Patty Hearst

Need anyone really say anything more?

[orleans]

45. "Would it really be all that possible inside a free society like the USA?"

answer: yes.

[inna]

52. oh-my-gawd.

:palm:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

55. She was 11 years old when she was abducted

She was isolated from society from that point on for the next 18 years of her life. During that time the two people who kidnapped her became her only source for food and shelter, which no doubt was mixed with liberal doses of mental and physical abuse. In situations such as this the person's mental maturity stops, or at the least is severely altered, at the age they were removed from society. One's mind has two choices, either go mad from the loss of all that you knew and understood, but believe will never have again. Or, attempt to adjust and believe your captors will at least provide for your basic needs.

If you look back at the famous cases such as this one, they all took place in "free' societies similar to the USA.

[GreenPartyVoter]

57. I think it would be even more likely to happen since she was a child. Then too there's

the possibility that he threatened her, and later on the children, with violence or told her that there was no point in trying to escape because either no one would help her or they would blame her for her predicament. She was probably emotionally and mentally demoralized and paralyzed all that time.

[tabasco]

8. How do you even know she had the opportunity?

You don't know Jack Shit, so STFU.

[Pangolin2]

19. Please forgive me for asking a question. I will now shut the fuck up

just for you, sweetie.

[Contrary1]

21. From what I've read, it looks like she was held prisoner...

She was so young when they grabbed her. Who know what lies they fed her about her parents?

[Pangolin2]

24. I was thinking about in the context of another sort-of similar case, Steven Stayner

whose story was done pretty well in a movie called "I think my name is Steven" if I recall it right...he was effectively 'brainwashed' for years but finally gathered up the courage to break away from the situation...at about 18 or so.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

56. That case isn't similar really

Steven Stayner was still in society, he went to school, watched television and interacted with people on the outside. He wasn't nearly as isolated nor emotionally stunted as Jaycee appears to have been.

Even with all his interactions with others on a daily baisis it still took him 7-years to attempt to leave. Which shows just how much power over a person's mind, especially a young person's mind, an abductor can have. He was 14-years old when he escaped.

[Shell Beau]

20. Wow. It isn't wrong to ask that question. Many people will wonder it.

I don't think asking that question is blaming the girl either. I can't imagine what she went through. But, asking that question helps to get at the root of how that works. None of us who haven't walked in this girl's shoes knows Jack Shit about it really. I bet her parents will be asking that question.

[Pangolin2]

23. The thing is, I wasn't asking anyone here, specifically, I just wondered out loud

how things like this can happen. It was pretty much rhetorical but with a willingness to entertain explanations. Thanks for 'getting' it. It wasn't my intention to minimize whatever horrors the young lady may have endured, just a (perhaps morbid?) curiosity about how it may have gone on for so long.
:-)

[LisaL]

27. In many cases many kidnapped children don't try to run away.

And don't ask anyone for help. And don't go to the police. Elizabeth Smart even tried to deny who she was when police found her. Shawn Hornbeck didn't try to run away even though he was allowed outside. He was only found after his abductor kidnapped a second boy and police became suspicious.
So this kind of behavior is totally consistent with that of other kidnapped children.

[inna]

53. ok, i get it now, thanks for explaining. :) nt

[TheDebbieDee]

9. I have nothing to do with what questions are permissible.........

I was only wondering how long it would take for someone to ask the question.

But the answer to your question about why she didn't run away after 18 years is: Fear, fear, fear, conditioned response, brain-washing, mind-control, fear, fear, fear. A cell with bars is not the ONLY type of prison that can be created for someone..............

[pnwmom]

16. He's been brainwashing her since she was 11. And probably convinced her

she could lose her children.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

14. BillO posts here? (n/m)

[Melinda]

5. Apparently Garrido & wife kept Jaycee as a sex slave, in a shed - and she bore him children

And yeah, I know it's Faux news...

http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-news-coldcase-sexslave0827,0,4714315.story

True to life horror. Poor, poor Jaycee. :(

*edited to insert correct link

[Pavulon]

10. And there is why I can never be a police officer..

the urge to shoot them both twice in the liver would be very strong. What a piece of shit.

[targetpractice]

13. I wonder what will happen to those children?

I can't imagine how they could ever handle the truth about how they came to be.

[LisaL]

29. Well I am sure they will stay with their mother.

The mother will probably go back to her parents, and I presume the children will go with her.
Yea it's going to be difficult for all of them. Sounds like they didn't go to school.

[targetpractice]

39. I am not a mother, woman, or rape victim...

So, I can't pretend to even remotely comprehend what Jaycee experienced and how she may feel about her children that were fathered by her abuser for the last 18 years.

Thanks for your reply... You seem sure of your answer...

The mother-child bond has always amazed me... Perhaps, it's strong enough to overcome the tragedy in the end.

I am just flummoxed about how these victims will be rehabilitated.

What professionals will help them?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Move over Josef Fritzl.

Looks like we've got a new contender for Final Boss of the Internet.

[Synnical]

32. Dungeon Dad was silent, no internet postings that I'm aware of?

Or are you referring to internet traffic?

This male had a blog, it seems. . .

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale

[TicketyBoo]

40. Fritzl was worse.

At least this girl wasn't imprisoned, assaulted and impregnated by her own father. And there are less children involved, thank goodness.

[JI7]

41. the mother in Fritzl's case is still suspicious to me

i still don't see how she would not know what was going on.

[Synnical]

51. Where is the "goodness" here? n/t

[RFKHumphreyObama]

46. Actually I'd argue that this case has more comparisons with Natasha Kampusch than Fritzl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natascha_Kampusch

Both cases of young girls being abducted by strangers and being held hostage for a number of years, the difference in the Kampusch case being that she had no children. Both terribly sickening to think what they must have gone through

[Blue Diadem]

11. That poor girl. The more that comes out the worse it gets.

I hope those 2 never see the light of day again.

[Beaverhausen]

12. Imagine how many other missing children are out there

and possibly living under these horrible conditions.

[Odin2005]

15. There are no words...

:cry:

[FarCenter]

17. This would be an excellent case for execution of them both

There is no question who the guilty people are or about what they did over a span of 18 years.

Hang em.

[Synnical]

30. And that is helpful to society, how?

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale

[titoresque]

33. +1 nt.

[LeftyMom]

42. Not under California law, it's not.

I know that death penalty posts have more to do with the desire for revenge than a desire to enforce the law, but California law on potential death penalty cases is quite clear and there has to be both a murder and a qualifying "special circumstance" to make a potential death penalty case. As the victim is still alive, this isn't even close.

[armyowalgreens]

49. I always think of Monty Python when I hear such stupidity...

"SHE'S A WITCH!!!"

[sledgehammer]

26. A religious freak, but not in a bible thumper kinda way

Just some seriously whacked out dude. Apparently he believed he had the power to control sounds and voices, or something like that. Decide for yourself if you can make any sense of his blog:

http://voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/

"This document is to affirm that I Phillip Garrido have clearly demonstrated the ability to control sound with my mind and have developed a device for others to witness this phenomena. by using a sound generator to provide the sound, and a headphone amplification system, ( a device to focuc your hearing so as to increase the sensitivity of what one is listening to) I have produced a set of voices by effectively controlling the sound to pronounce words through my own mental powers."

<snip>

"THIS FREEDOM HAS NOT COME ABOUT DUE TO SOMETHING GREAT ABOUT MYSELF, INSTEAD THIS ABILITY IS TO OPEN DOORS THAT WILL HONOR THE CREATOR AND HIS ETERNAL PURPOSE FOR MANKIND.

THIS ALL BEGAN BY GOD REMOVING A PROBLEM FROM MY SHOULDERS THAT BEHAVIORAL SCIENTIST BELIEVE IS NOT POSSIBLE TO REMOVE. SINCE THEN MY LIFE HAS SEEN MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS ALLOWING ME TO STAND HERE TODAY A FREE MAN."

<snip>

"Please understand a powerful persuasion has been controlling our freedoms to comprehend these issues and is the soul reason it was impossible to believe in. Understand The Creator is demonstrating His patients in matters we do not fully understand. It is about the entire human race as God desires’ that every human being understand His intentions are to protect life and not destroy it."

[DeSwiss]

37. I guess it depends on how one defines "bible thumper...."

"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/27/missing-girl-reappears-af_n_270503.html">The case broke after Garrido was spotted Tuesday with two children as he tried to enter the University of California, Berkeley, campus to hand out religious literature."

- Either definition, to me he's just a POS.....

[Synnical]

54. Cripes, I hope the defense is not "Religious Persecution"!!

[Synnical]

34. Makes me think of Johnny Gosch n/t

[Common Sense Party]

44. I'm still wondering/hoping that Johnny will be found

His case freaked me out. I was a paperboy in Iowa around the same time.

[Berry Cool]

36. What this reminds me of most is the Colleen Stan "Girl in the Box" case

about the young woman kept for many years by a man whose wife went along with the plan out of fear of him. She didn't try to escape him for many years, until finally she managed to break away:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Colleen_Stan

He was convicted and got life. The attempted defense was that she could have escaped at any time, that she willingly stayed with this couple despite numerous opportunities to escape. The prosecution successfully argued that she had had Stockholm Syndrome brainwashing techniques used on her to break her down mentally and make her believe for a very long time that her captors were part of a secret international network of slave owners with a membership that would swing into action to hunt her down and bring her back no matter what she tried to do to get free.

The long and short of it? If someone controls enough of your life--including when you can move freely, eat, drink, sleep, go to the bathroom and even wear clothes (i.e., you are required to be naked much of the time), and controls what you are allowed to eat, drink and wear...and establishes for you a completely random schedule of such activities, as well as of "punishments" for breaking the "rules"...they can pretty much get you to believe, and do, anything. Including that it's no point trying to escape, because you'll be hunted down like a dog, returned and punished...maybe even killed...just for trying.

[DeSwiss]

38. ....

This family photo released by Carl Probyn on Thursday,
Aug. 27, 2009, shows his stepdaughter, Jaycee Lee
Dugard, who went missing in 1991. The woman who was
snatched from a bus stop as an 11-year-old child turned
up at a California police station after 18 mysterious
years, and a convicted sex offender and his wife were
arrested in the kidnapping. (AP Photo)

[RFKHumphreyObama]

47. I cannot even begin to imagine what that poor beautiful child had to go through

for almost two decades:cry: