What a country this has become - we praise him here and the comments

[2Design]

in newspapers around the country, the comment sections are full of the haters from the town hall meetings and tea parties - this country is so divided but not by north and south but by neighbor against neighbor.

The local paper here has little this afternoon on his death but the big story is how some kid who posted those posters of obama defaced as the joker is the main story and they continue showing the posters -

so why are the haters so happy - they are getting top media attention all the time

I don't know if this country can ever get to where the kennedy's envision it - may be time to find a new home

[Tangerine LaBamba]

1. I'd say the party's over -

our best days are behind us. There's far too much division now, and I don't see that anything can ever happen to fix that.

This is the legacy of Tom Delay and Newt Gingrich and Ronald Reagan - don't ever let anyone forget that..........................

[redqueen]

2. Don't leave Atwater out...

he deserves partial credit at least.

[SidneyCarton]

6. Agreed.

These are the long-term consequences of the politics of division. They got short-term political victories, and in the process polarized the nation to the point that we will be at each other's throats until doomsday.

[elleng]

15. More than partial credit;

he played a/the major role in promoting the negative.

[redqueen]

19. He did apologize and express regrets for his evil deeds on his deathbed, though...

so there is that.

[Maccagirl]

22. Too late.

n/t

[elleng]

23. There is that,

but not worth its repetition, imo.

[Drunken Irishman]

3. Nope...

We're just more connected. That's why it seems like there is too much division now.

Let's not forget people were cheering in the streets when Kennedy was killed.

[ejpoeta]

12. what?? people were cheering in the streets??? what is wrong with people!

[Hekate]

17. In a few parts of the country. I believe it would have been the Southern states...

Elsewhere, there were many tears and much shock. If we'd had the Internet back in 1963, we would have seen as much or more of the same ugliness on display emanating from the white-sheeted hate-filled minority. Remember, they are a minority -- loud and dangerous, but still a minority.

Hekate

[Drunken Irishman]

21. Yup.

Since we're connected and it's all anonymous, people are free to post their trash.

Back then, it was hidden and done in only the anti-Kennedy areas (mostly the south).

[Tangerine LaBamba]

28. Perhaps, in the privacy of their homes,

people were happy that a Kennedy had been killed.

But you said "people were cheering in the streets."

I want to know where that happened....................

[Drunken Irishman]

30. It happened.

Look it up. I've heard stories. There were people cheering in bars at the news. Some DUers remember some clapping at schools and such when the news was announced.

Kennedy was well liked, but there were a ton of people who wanted him dead.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

34. You claimed it,

and now I'd like to know where it happened.

Don't claim it as fact, and then tell me to "look it up." I was eighteen years old and a college freshman when JFK was killed, so I remember a whole lot.

I was at his grave a week after the funeral.

Yes, there were people who made a lot of happy noise when he died, but you claimed "people cheering in the streets."

THAT is what I want to know about.

So, where did this happen?

[Drunken Irishman]

39. Ok!

I don't need to tell you to look it up.

Because there is nothing to look up!

It's what I heard.

Like from my grandpa, who was teaching at South High in Salt Lake when the news broke and heard faint clapping down the hall and got into a screaming match with someone because of it.

But in your eyes, HE WAS LYING.

:eyes:

[fascisthunter]

13. that's a good point

before nobody really spoke about policy.... not like they do now. Now we see town hall meetings where dialogue itself gets challenged. It ALL needs to come out, so America as a whole can move forward. Let democracy work....

[Tangerine LaBamba]

27. Where?

Who told you that?

In the US, there was no "cheering in the streets" when any Kennedy was killed......................

[Drunken Irishman]

31. Lots of people.

I think it's quite naive to believe there weren't spontaneous cheering when Kennedy was assassinated.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

33. You said "people were cheering in the streets".

I want you to tell me where that happened, because that time is still vibrant and painful in my memory.

I want to know how I missed that.

Thanks....................

[Drunken Irishman]

36. You got me!

It didn't happen in every single street in every single town across this country.

You sure shamed me.

:eyes:

I wasn't alive back then. But I've heard the stories from people here on DU and from those who were and unless they were lying...

[Tangerine LaBamba]

37. So you spread nonsense -

yeah, I got you.

It didn't happen. I was here, and it didn't happen.

If you believe everything you're told, and you obviously do, then believe this:

It didn't happen.

They were lying...................

[Drunken Irishman]

38. haha

Good one!

Because, you know, I said I totally believe everyone who ever has told me something, right?

So just because you didn't see it and I wasn't alive to see it, I can't comment on of it happening?

You're pretty smart, right? Are you going to tell me you don't believe Americans were capable of showing their glee at the news of Kennedy's passing? You know, those same Americans who put up TREASON posters throughout Dallas the day he visited. You know, the type of an American who would actually fucking SHOOT the guy?

Yeah, you're right! It probably never happened. They were lying.

I hate to break it to you, bud, but life back then was just as bad as it is today. I know you old folk like to get it into your head things were perfect and it was kumbaya all the fucking time, but it wasn't. You had just as many assholes then as we do now.

People might not have cheered in large groups when Kennedy was shot, but it's stupid (yes, stupid) to believe there weren't cheers to be heard. Especially in the south, where they HATED Kennedy after he forcefully tried to desegregate schools there.

It's even more stupid to think the hate you read on the internet is something new. It's always been there. You just didn't have access to it back in the 60s because you probably rarely left your street and town.

But that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

So stop acting stupid.

[Winterblues]

4. The Barbarians have crashed through the gates and are trying hard to take over the country.

That is what Republicans have become..Barbarians..and that is putting it as kindly as possible.

[redqueen]

9. Have become? Didn't they try to get Smedley Butler to overthrow FDR?

They've always been barbarians... supporting fascism, divison, hate, war, etc..

[rzemanfl]

5. And I'm "negative?" Unfortunately I tend to agree. n/t

[Tangerine LaBamba]

26. "And I'm 'negative'?"

I just remembered.

Keep that thumb drive.

My mistake.........

[arcadian]

7. The corporate powers that be like division.

They'll sell cheap worthless plastic crap from China to Republican and Democrat alike. And both sides will buy it up and ask for more.

[Maccagirl]

14. After watching the "coverage" on CNN and NBC

You are totally correct.

It's a sad day, and a sad time. I do not see any improvement-maybe ever.

[redqueen]

20. The M$M has a vested interest in sowing division... don't fall for their charade...

it's only a small percentage of the population who act like that... they're just very loud, and the M$M *LOVES* them.

[create.peace]

25. a friend of mine was approached in a park, while she was sitting with her grandbaby, by a man who

parked next to her car in the nearly empty lot. he asked if that was her car with the bring them home stickers....she said yes and he proceeded to call her names, called obama names (you can imagine) and all this as he was towering over her. there was no one else around. i believe the 'others' as i will call them, now feel empowered to accost us, curse at us and threaten us, in a way they only felt okay about when we were carrying signs in a march or protest.

i am listening to a lot of Yusuf Islam today. the last time i felt 'innocent' in a way, was the first time i listened to him. i hate that i feel that hopeful innocent all things are possible feeling is gone at a much younger age than i was when it started leaving me. i was a young mother, mid twenties by the time i started feeling the betrayal. now i think the children feel it pretty young.

where do the children play....evidently not even in the park with their grannies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjdVOfnYkyA

pardon my rant or whatever....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TWd3skb-Rw&feature=quicklist

[Tangerine LaBamba]

29. They would call it "free speech,"

wouldn't they, the people who don't know what free speech means?

What an ugly, frightening experience.

This is our America. It's now a country that nurtures hate................

[Fire1]

32. Ha! It's been over for some time. n/t

[Tangerine LaBamba]

35. That's for sure -

witness my post, and remember before Reagan, Delay, and Gingrich..........................

[BooBluePotion]

8. As long as wingnuts call parts of America Unpatriotic

This division has staying power.

[maryellen99]

10. It will be worse when Bill and Hillary die

or god forbid if something happens to President Obama.

[arcadian]

11. The two party system serves it's corporate masters well.

[emulatorloo]

16. teabagger types represent about 10 to 20% of the population, as far as I can tell

Small fringe minority. They are just real loud.

[Bluerthanblue]

18. the haters aren't happy- they are miserable, and until they let go of their

fear and anger, they will never really know happiness. Not in the way Ted Kennedy knew happiness or in the way he knew sorrow. Intimately, intensely.

The people you speak of are a pitiful lot. They may live long, but they will not really live.

It's painful to live fully, but it is also incredibly wonderful, and beautiful as well.

Ted lived life to its fullest.
And the world is a lesser place now that he's gone.

:grouphug:

[RagAss]

24. They wake up in fear and go to sleep in fear....fucked up lives !