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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:40 PM
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re: wh emails - dana perino said today the rnc paid for phone lines
and monthly fees (internet) for the the rnc laptops, is this legal - an outside entity installing

phone lines in the wh? and what prevents someone unplugging the phone line from the laptop and

plugging it into a phone and doing political business?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:44 PM
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1. where are the NSA guru's who've been snoping on
phone and email since 9/11? Surely they've trapped traffic within the White House as well.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:44 PM
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2. Actually, they're screwn either way.
If they unplugged the phone line and did political business, it's a violation of the Hatch Act.

If they didn't unplug the phone lines and sent WH emails over RNC lines, it's a violation of the Presidential Records Act.

Name your poison, Georgie.

- as
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:48 PM
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4. Correct - couldn't have put it more succinctly myself.
Thank you. :)
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:59 PM
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6. Not really.
Nobody has ever been tried under the Hatch act and there are no penalties for breaking the Presidential Records Act.
Though I could be wrong.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:45 PM
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3. Something like this...
Is such bad IT practice in a controlled and regulated IT environment, it's boggling.

Let me put it to you this way:

I have a friend who works in IT in the defense industry. His environment is so locked-down and monitored and papered with rules, he almost has to submit a 3-copy form, a month in advance, to take a shit. They cannot use IM. They cannot use Firefox. They cannot use anything but what they are told. If someone installs unapproved software, anywhere in the shop, they are fired on the spot and then, the Defense Department and FBI tear their lives into itty-bitty pieces. It's the hardest of hardball.

If this happened, then a ton of rules were broken, and, perhaps, data retention laws relating to The Hatch Act.

But you knew that.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:59 PM
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7. I have friend in similar experience..
He use to work for the Dallas City Government in IT. It took them so long to do anything, approvals, money requisitions, security out the ass....and thousands of forms....
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:57 PM
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5. I'm sure the "phone lines" were already installed...
Actually, probably multiple TDM DS3 for the whitehouse PBX. I wouldn't think they are on SIP Trunks yet...

And I am positive that Karl Rove isn't using dial up with his RNC laptop. They probably set up a unique domain within the WhiteHouse LAN for those machines to connect. I would like to see how they broke out the "cost" for what the RNC would pay for. I imagine there would be at least a couple fully redundant OC12 to 2600 Pennsylvania Avenue for data services.

Also, I'm sure it's all wireless as well so nobody is "plugging" anything in...
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:12 PM
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8. maybe, i'm just relating what perino said.
it seems to me that the point of the rnc computers was to avoid federal law so they may well have

been plugged in to separate phone lines.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:19 PM
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9. Ms. Perino will soon regret taking this job for Bushco.
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:49 PM
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10. kick!
:wow:

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