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SingaporeExpat Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:21 PM
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The Nation: Obama Choked
After his brilliant beginning, the president suddenly looks weak and unreliable. That will be the common interpretation around Washington of the president's abrupt retreat on substantive heathcare reform. Give Barack Obama a hard shove, they will say, rough him up a bit and he folds. A few weeks back, the president was touting a "public option" health plan as an essential element in reform. Now he says, take it or leave it. Whatever Congress does, he's okay with that

The White House quickly added confusion to the outrage by insisting the president didn't really say anything new. He's just being flexible. He still wants what most Democrats want--a government plan that gives people a real escape from the profit-driven clutches of the insurance companies. But serious power players will not be fooled by the nimble spinners. Obama choked. He raised the white flag, even before the fight got underway in Congress.

He hands the insurance industry a huge victory. He rewards the right-wing frothers who have been calling him Adolph Hitler or Dr. Death. He caves to the conservative bias of the major media who insist only bipartisan consensus is acceptable for big reform (a standard they never invoked during the Bush years). Obama is deluded if he thinks this will win him any peace or respect or Republican votes. Weakness does not lead to consensus in Washington. It leads to more weakness. The Party of No intends to bring him down and will pile on. Obama has inadvertently demonstrated their strategy of vicious invective seems to be working.

Barack Obama mainly did this to himself. To avoid the accusation of socialized medicine, he intentionally shrouded his objectives in bureaucratic euphemisms like "public option." What the hell does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. The vagueness allowed anyone to fill in the blanks and anxious people did so in apocalyptic ways. The original idea, after all, was making something similar to Medicare available to anyone between childhood and old age who was either shut out by high prices or abused by insurance companies policing the system. This approach--call it Medicare Basic--would in theory give government the greater leverage needed to control the price inflation and reshape the system in positive ways. If you told people "public option" was a Medicare equivalent, the polls would demonstrate the popularity. Instead, that objective is now at risk. The right still calls Obama a covert socialist.

There is a more cynical interpretation of Obama's flexibility. He is coming out right about where he wanted to be. Forget the good talk, it is said, this president never really intended to do deep reform that truly alters the industrial power structure dominating our dysfunctional healthcare system. He just wanted minimalist reforms he could sell as "victory." Not until years later would people figure out that nothing fundamental had been changed.

In this scenario, Obama has always been more comfortable with the center-right forces within the Democratic party--Senator Max Baucus and the Blue Dogs--and the Clintonistas of DLC lineage who now fill his administration. His real political challenge was to string along the liberals with reassuring talk until they were stuck with lousy choices-- either go along with this popular president's pale version of reform or take him on and risk ruining his presidency. This sounds a lot like the choices Democrats faced during the Clinton years. Candidate Obama said it was "time to turn the page." We are still waiting to see what he meant.

I do not subscribe to the manipulative, deceptive portrait (not yet), but you can find lots of supporting evidence in Obama's behavior. His response to the financial crisis demonstrates a clear desire to restore Wall Street power, not to change it. His war strategy in Afghanistan looks like the familiar trap of open-ended counterinsurgency. The trap may soon close on him when the generals announce their need for more troops. Will this president dare to say no? Obama negotiated a truly ugly deal with the pharmaceutical industry--a promise not to use government bargaining power to bring down drug prices. His lieutenants still yearn to demonstrate "fiscal responsibility' by taxing the health-care benefits of union members or whacking Social Security.

In other words, this is really a decisive test for the Democratic party and its main constituencies. Will they go along with the president or push back and reject his misdirections? The burden will fall mainly on Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the House majority. They will be under intense pressure from the White House to stay "on message" with the president. Organized labor seems to be breaking out of the go-along passivity. Richard L. Trumka, soon to be president of the AFL-CIO, promises to blackball Blue Dogs or anyone else who double-crosses the working people who faithfully financed their election campaigns.

Taking the high road will be hard and divisive. But maybe this is at last the season when Democrats reveal which side they are on.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/18-11
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:24 PM
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1. Yeah, wish he hadn't sign that bill. You know, the
bill crackheads keep imagining.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:26 PM
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2. Yeah, it's all over.
Oh, wait, there isn't even a final bill yet...or a Senate bill for that matter...and it hasn't gone to reconciliation, because THEY ARE STILL ON SUMMER RECESS FOR CHRISSAKES.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:43 PM
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3. Wickerman: The Nation called it a bit early
:eyes:

Oh, and review the rules for posting others content. You're over a tad on the 4 or five paragraphs.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:16 PM
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:44 PM
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4. Welcome to DU!
:hi:



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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:04 PM
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5. +1
And Swamp Rat: I've missed you, thanks for posting some new awesomeness. :thumbsup:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:07 PM
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6. Made it yesterday after I got caught up on US politics.
:hi:



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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:08 PM
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7. bwahahahaha....not a nice way to make your 19h post
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:45 PM
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8. Thank you for the post. Greider called it right.
Many of us recognize a now consistent pattern of this administration not taking principled action and forceful leadership in areas that are unpopular with right wingers.

The health care industry is literally trading human flesh for profit. It is a morally repugnant enterprise. Abuse is widespread. Once again our weak leadership (congressional and presidential) cannot bring themselves to forcefully and with conviction stand up for the values of the party that ushered him into office. Were we need forceful regulation and government sponsered alternatives, instead we get kbullshit about free market magic.

It isn't too soon to cast judgment. Enough time has past. Enough rhetoric has been spewed. This administration is obsessed with the health and well being of the right wing democrats and republicans.

What has become apparent is the brilliant (yes, brilliant) strategy of having right wing extremists blazing the trails and creating the slip stream that is sucking along the rest of the country. Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter, Hanity 24 hours a day, spewing hate, lies and distortions to the point that it is desensitizing us as a nation. In four years Savage and Beck will be considered moderates. So, even without an elected majority, the republicans still control the policy debate. And our dem leadership under Pelosi ("impeachment is off the table), Obama ("torture is off the table", "single payer is off the table", "wall street is off the table", "wiretapping is off the table", on and on) is proving to be as cowardly as ever when it comes to standing up and winning the war of ideas and maintaining the strong support of his constituency.

We can cry all day about how bad republicans are, but they win. Instead of winning, they should be in jail. But, its all republican all the time. Every news outlet is focused on republican opposition over health care reform - they make the most noise, so why not? Democrats have no message other than bi-partisanship.

Apparently it was a tie election. Watch as the republican and democratic conservatives who brought you

Banking deregulation failure #1 (S&L a mere 80 or 90 billion),
Iraq failure #2 (a trillion or so and climbing, 100,000 dead),
Energy deraegulation failure #1 (Enron - 60 billion in value, cost to US unknown but approx 10 to 20 billion),
Banking deregulation failure #2 (How many trillion?)
Torture (priceless)
Wiretapping (grrrr)

Now they set their sights on health care "reform". We'll meet again in 4 years at the cross roads of another traitorous pillaging of the treasury at the larger expense of the nation's well being. The people who argue to sit back and watch Obama work his magic will be long gone, the consequences of doing nothing will last for generations.









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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:00 PM
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12. renegotiating NAFTA also off the table, ending State Secrets privilege off the table...
I'm still waiting for ONE issue of substance that is ON the table where we take the corporatist power structure on fully and try to cut them down to size. It is not happening, and it NEEDS to happen Barack! You were are only hope amongst viable politicians to do this necessary cancer chemotherapy for this country of getting rid of corporate power over our once strong democracy.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:55 PM
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14. yes - it is frustrating, for a while I was a voice in the wilderness.
but a terrible pattern has set in and the message has become one of "no change". What bugs me is the way Obama is playing the opposition like children:

"Don't worry change is scary, the free market works great, I won't be changing much, you'll still have that great for profit health care experience we all love so much"

Instead of

"Here are the facts about the high profits, CEO lifestyles, the abuses and lousy service being delivered by our free market health care."

So - right away he validates the opposition. Damn - why don't we just give the conservatives the fking floor and go home. We are in Congress and the White House but we don't know how to lead.

We needed Sherman's march through the slave states, instead we got Neville Chamberlain announcing "health care in our time" after signing a peace agreement with the Nazis.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:47 PM
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9. Another one of these smacking Obamas sack
What the fuck is going on here today?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:55 PM
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10. HIJACKING THIS THREAD!!!! Everyone In!!! HIJACKING THIS THREAD!!!! Everyone In!!!11@@@!!!!!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 09:58 PM by NYC_SKP
OK, What's all the good news, people are suddenly upbeat this past couple hours.

Is it one of these threads in LBN, or what???

Senator says he asked Obama to back off public insurance option:shrug:

Democrats Seem Set to Go Alone on a Health Bill :shrug:

Analysis: Liberals say 'no more compromise,' call for end to one-sided health care negotiation :shrug:

Man says he sold kidney in U.S. for $20k:wtf:

Labor Warns Dems: We'll Sit Out Election If You Oppose Public Plan:shrug:

Health Reform Supporters Start to Outnumber Critics at Town Halls :shrug:

Gibbs insists Obama not backing off public option (Again):shrug:

:shrug:

:patriot:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:37 PM
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17. HELPING NYC_SKP HIJACK THE THREAD!!!!!!!
Fuck me I HATE brain dead reprints of bullshit posits.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:45 AM
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20. Thanks, dude.
I knew I could count on you!

:toast:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:50 AM
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21. Anytime, my good friend, and as they say,
The dude abides....

:toast:
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:57 PM
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11. a big K&R....n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:00 PM
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13. You may wish to review the rules on posting so that you don't infringe copyright


BTW I once lived on the 44th floor of International Plaza and commuted to my office on the 30th floor!
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SingaporeExpat Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:10 PM
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15. Thank you, I didn't know. Thanks for being more polite than your Moderator above.
I will give your regards to Anson Road!!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:37 PM
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18. Are you bragging or complaining????
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:47 PM
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19. pundit FAIL nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:06 AM
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22. K&R
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