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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 09:57 PM
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"This Time We Did Not Bring Our Guns" - Sign at Atlanta Anti-Health Care Rally


AJC: In a piece calling for a more civil dialogue on health-care reform, my colleague Jim Galloway posted a photograph taken at this weekend’s rally at Centennial Olympic Park opposing President Obama’s health-care reform plan.

Let me point your attention to the man literally if not figuratively to the far left, the man holding a neatly printed sign that reads:

“THIS TIME WE DID NOT BRING OUR GUNS”

This time?

It’s hard to misinterpret the message that sign is intended to communicate.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/08/17/the-barely-veiled-threat-of-violence-sometimes-not-veiled-at-all/
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 09:58 PM
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1. It looks photoshopped to me.
No?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:00 PM
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2. Me, too.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:01 PM
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4. It does.
Too-perfect lettering on too-white a background.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:07 PM
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7. Concur, hope the SJC checks for that now
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:07 PM
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8. Not especially
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 10:16 PM by anigbrowl
Just heavy compression settings I think.

Edit: I ought to explain. I just opened it in Photoshop; it was shot with a Nikon D3, a 200mm lens at f2.8 and a 1/800 shutter. The other signs also show flat-looking backgrounds. But if you kick the contrast way up (or narrow the high/low levels) you can see none of the signs are flat-colored at all, they just look that way because they're in the upper brightness range.

Photographer info:

090815 Atlanta: James Newman, dressed as George Washington, shouts supports during a rally against the proposed health care reform in Centennial Olympic Park Saturday August 15, 2009. Brant Sanderlin, bsanderlin@ajc.com

ajc is Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:13 PM
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13. Possible. But there's shadowing problems as well.
Wouldn't the compression have sharpened the handwritten letters too? But they appear graduated around the edges, where the white board appears finely pixelated. I dunno . . .
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:20 PM
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14. (I added more info above, but...)
Really it looks pretty coincidental to me. You could equally well ask why the US flag umbrella in the foreground has such neat alignment with the frame of the photo.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:27 PM
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16. I would think the Atlanta Journal Constitution would not
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 10:30 PM by RamboLiberal
photoshop a pic like this. Here's where it originally appeared in the newspaper in Jim Galloway's column. Email the photog and ask him if he photoshopped.


James Newman, a.k.a. George Washington, during a rally against health care reform proposals in Centennial Olympic Park. Brant Sanderlin, bsanderlin@ajc.com

Immediately afterwards, in Centennial Park, firebrands stoked a Saturday afternoon crowd that had already made up its mind about changes to the nation’s health care system now contemplated in Washington.

They promised more confrontation. “We will not be quiet!” was one of many slogans tested for effect. Most of the signs carried by demonstrators spoke to the issue. One fellow was deliberately provocative. His read, “This time we didn’t bring our guns.”

At times, the angry words are enough to make you long for Richard Nixon and his Silent Majority.

At least one Republican thinks the harsh language and disruptions we’ve seen at town hall meetings across the country constitute a blunder — both moral and strategic — that could hurt the conservative cause in the long run.

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/08/16/health-care-reform-and-a-plea-for-civility/
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:00 PM
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3. since when did loving your country mean threatening its leader?
I take that shit very seriously--I alerted a buzzen times on people who even veiled threatened *.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:03 PM
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5. I have no words. It's just sad.
Today when I went to the market there was a group of three men in ragged military type wear collecting funds to help war veterans. There were no guns. I gave them a couple of dollars but asked them who they were affiliated with? They said Veterans of the Foreign Wars, but these men were very young in my view. Should we bring back the draft so the Rambo wannabes can get their fill of guns and war? I don't think the boys who were begging would agree with those fellows.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:06 PM
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6. I would be suspicious.
More likely a bunch of homeless or street kids realized they can get 10x as much donations by pretending to be vets.
The VFW never wears ragged military clothing.

If they hadn't said VFW and simply had a sign as a Iraq war vet I might buy it (still more than likely a scam) the combination of them saying VFW but wearing ragged uniforms = 100% scam.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:08 PM
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10. I agree. I was suspicious too, but if they are homeless as well they are
welcome to my couple of dollars.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:25 PM
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15. Agreed I am however less likely to give someone money if they are dishonest about having served.
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 10:29 PM by Statistical
Watching a buddy bleed out in the dirt overseas makes me jaded like that.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:30 PM
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18. We don't know if they were dishonest about serving.
Like I said they seemed young to me, but I'm almost seventy so everyone under fifty looks young to me.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:08 PM
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9. We're done voting? From now on we'll let our smoking barrels do our talking?
Thanks Second Amendment! You are such a treasured "right."
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:08 PM
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11. Bah
Let them vent. We can identify them due to the pictures, they ain't doin' nothing.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:11 PM
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12. angry white folks
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:29 PM
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17. These nuts apparently come in all colors. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:33 PM
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19. yep
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:33 PM
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20. There's a fella there who is really behind the times
I don't quite get the connection between the war of independence and health care reform. Am I being naive and dense?



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