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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:42 PM Original message |
Would you support price controls and benchmarks in lieu of a public option? |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. No. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. Does it matter what I want? |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. No. It doesn't matter what any of us need. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And with a government REQUIRED insurance premium revenue - |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Under this system health insurance companies would become |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Under single payer, insurance co.s become superfluous. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. That depends. How much money do you have? n/t |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, too easy for Republicans to roll back, as they did in Florida. nt |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. No, because the Insurance industry would lie, cheat, and steal (as usual). |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Health insurance companies would become less relevant |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. NO. I want Medicare improved and expanded to cover everyone. n/t |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Medicare would be more solvent under this system |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. Benchmarks without sanctions are useless. |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. There would be fines if the costs went beyond a set margin of profit. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. NO, because it does not guarantee Ins. Co. will sell me insurance. They now won't because I'm unemp |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. You might not need insurance if prices go down and are predictable each year |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. Self regulation has worked so well in the past. . |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. NO! Next question. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. Lots and lots of regulation? |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Absolutely not ... This is a fast track way to create massive shortages in health care |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I agree with you that Doctors are not the enemy |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. I would not oppose this |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Health insurance companies would lose power under this system |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. They would lose power with doctors ... |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Insurance companies would lose their advantage in the health care system |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. OK, I get what you're saying |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Thank You |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. There are many reasons |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I'm taking about charging more than a certain range of profit |
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FLDCVADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I understand what you're suggesting |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Not a chance. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
15. No, nothing that doesn't compete with those bastards |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. no, they will just get around it. |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. NO |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. No |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. No |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. No. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
27. NO!!!!!!!!! |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. Absolutely NO nt |
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vincna (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
30. No way! |
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Penguin31 (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
31. No. When I signed up for this, I wanted Single-payer universal Medicare. Period (n/t) |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
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crazy_vanilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. hell no - either public option or nothing, we've given too much ground nt |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. The Important requirement is that there is government involvement |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
37. In a word: FUCKNO, but have a nice day. nm |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
38. The last 30 years (not to mention the years before FDR) have proven one thing indisputably |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I was just using the American Medical Association as an example |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
39. Short answer, no. They have too much power and too many allies. |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
40. Government enforced priceponts will be a disaster. |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. If you can prove something costs a certain amount it is not a political liability |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. And thats why we're winning the public option debate right now - right? Numbers? |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. We are losing the public option debate because people on Medicaid |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Exactly - and why do they think their programs will be cut? |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Some of these people at the town hall meetings they act like children |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. The republicans have made a science of appealing to the worst in people |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Sorry - Dupe |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
42. No. |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. The system is complicated now because there is lots of cost shifting |
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tosh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. No. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
46. nope.... |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. If the Repug administration interfered with the evidence based pricing system |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
47. No. |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
50. no. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. No. n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
58. Tax penalties and fines that won't be collected. Regulation would be |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. The insurance companies and health care patients |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
83. Doubt it. nt |
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GrantDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
60. NO |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
61. No. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
62. no. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
65. Focusing on this is wasted energy, IMO. |
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HarveyDarkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
68. Hell no |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
70. No dice! |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
71. I have no problem with that. n/t |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
72. No. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
75. DHHS and the AMA "determining" (read fixing) health care prices? HAHAHAHAHA! |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I was just using them as an example |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Bad example, getting worse |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
77. I started to say what difference does it make |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. If you believe in something, you should do the best you can to make happen |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Sounds good. But |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
79. If ALL health care expenses were limited to $100-$200 per month per adult, period. |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
80. I'd prefer strong price controls to a public option provided there |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
84. Market based solutions are like relying on prayer as your health plan |
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