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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:41 PM Original message |
All our work to get a majority for our Democrats...and the other side seems to hold more power. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Republicans make dems look like idiots - dems eat each other |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Republicans like to win. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. AND they know how to argue firmly and strongly |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
85. Republicans like money. |
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felinetta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Democrats act guilty for winning. They feel bad for Repubs. We are still in an abusive |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Good statement. Like the Stockholm Syndrome |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
81. No, some of them are being paid off. This isn't about PARTY but Corporations vs. Citizens. |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
75. Might I suggest a new symbolic animal... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. You can thank the neocon enabling DLC for that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I think so. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. all the Media does is amplify the ReThug lies, distortions and propaganda. even CNN sounds like Fox |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Yes, the media does take the right wing's side. BUT...our Dems should know the truth. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. Here In Florida It's Pretty Useless To Call Our Reps Or Senators... At Least |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Yep. Calling Putnam, Nelson, or Martinez is sort of a joke. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. And Still To This Day There Are Write-Ups About His Lawsuits... NOTHING |
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djp2 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. They must have... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:35 AM Response to Reply #60 |
92. The more hopeless it is, the more you must make your wishes known. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. Yep. nt |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. As long as we support them with Money and Time at Election |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. they dont need our money as long as they are allowed to be bribed by Corporate Campaign Contribution |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. They don't need our money, and they only need our loyalty on election day. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Eight years (six of which were SOLID Republican control) wasn't enough?????!!!! |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. Sooner or later... |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. The republicans have more power because of the broadcast media and because |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. They have more fear of the right than they have respect for us. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. You said it. They also fear losing their positions--read election money--if they |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. It's the mushy middle that holds power |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. I am NOT a defeatist....I am a realist who expects our party to stand up. |
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TiredOldMan (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. Sharing Your Frustration |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. And I do hate to feel that way. I did not expect to feel that way. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
15. What does this tell you? It tells me that the wrong dems are in control! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. The ones in places of power are corporate Democrats. |
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steelmania75 (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. "The Dems can't locate their asses with a special ass map" -Jon Stewart |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Is that a real quote from Stewart? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. I hate being called a defeatist when I present facts and sources for my facts. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. Sebelius's words are clear, plus Conrad's words. |
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crazy_vanilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. yes, this stinks, it turned out to be much ado about nothing |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
24. Funny how with a slim majority, r's did whatever they wanted... we have a significant majority |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yep, the Republicans just barreled stuff through. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. We need a new LBJ.. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. But without Vietnam and McNamara. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. Always on defense, it's the way of the Democrats. |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
28. i don't understand that either |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. The Dems are fearful of the right wing. They do not fear us... |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. why are they afraid of the right wing? the right wing are a bunch of |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. But they yell louder |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Could it be . . . |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
32. From realist to defeatist in the course of one day at DU. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. Today's correction to Sebelius says neither she nor Obama think public option is essential |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
34. Forgot to post the 28 groups that opposed the FISA bill |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
35. I recommended this thread |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Thanks for that. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
39. Face it -- most policy that gets enacted represents something close to the average of people's views |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. The problem is not "center" or "left" or any dbate as to where those lie... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I don't think having a majority matters. |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Just updated my facebook to read "member of the party that sucks slightly less than the other one" |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
40. It really seems to me that |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:16 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. By design. We exist within an oligarchy, not a genuine representative democracy |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. And in every election people fall for it. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. The % of the indoctrinated on either (same) side has lessened |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. We try to be too nice. The DLC heritage |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
51. If you have exactly zero perspective, yah. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I am starting to have "zero" tolerance with my "zero" perspective. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Deleted message |
madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I find it offensive for you to speak of teachers that way. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. My motive:. I find it offensive that Americans are idiots. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. You seem representative of America and now of DU in your contempt |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I have contempt of all who don't want people to be smarter. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. That is an odd statement filled with contempt . |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:35 AM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Bloo is an ass most of the time. nt |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. I wonder who we can blame for assholishness? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
52. Dammit ...... I already recommended this thread. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. Many Democrats are on the other side. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
59. Call The Repukes Right Wing Nut Jobs... And For The Most Part I Believe |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Brilliant satire of an incoherent, braindead RW rant. Welcome to DU ! |
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jmondine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
61. This isn't about left or right, GOP or Dems. It's about who has the money |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Yes, I Too Have Said It Many Times Myself... IT IS MONEY!! You Got It AND |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
62. The Dems are not weak, they're bought. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
67. There is no other side, not in DC. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
76. Another anti-Democratic post... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #76 |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
77. There is no 'other side'. There is one side: the corporate side. |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
79. No change? No cash. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
80. I think what you are actually seeing is the desperate attempt by Congress |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
84. Can I say "I told you so"? We all knew we needed a larger majority and |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. They should beware of people like me who worked their butts off and donated much. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. No one believes you will give up and neither will I for one more. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. McCamy, many Dems like Baucus are obstructing for cash. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
86. Agree. I'm still hoping, but hope is fading. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
91. It's time for President Obama to get all democrats to play follow the leader |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:40 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. problem is I'm not for sure who this pres is representing |
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