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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:17 PM
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Palin is pwning Obama!
Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g426GkD-vTsEj6z5wZHcBngGbjvgD99UBEF80

Ok, Palin is a pathologically narcissist who's thinking is clearly delusional in many regards. However, between her claim the other day on 'death panels' and now this latest claim that Obamacare is 'evil', she is managing to completely set the terms of the debate. That's right, an out of office gubernatorial quitter is driving the national discourse, from Facebook.

One might wonder why Obama and the majority Democrats are playing such defense and getting their asses kicked on the issue. I think it's because Obama et. al. have continuously made a case for technical fixes for health care, acting as if we just need the right policies, the right subsidies, the right amount of competition to tidy up the system, cover more people, and correct some major injustices.

Palin on the other hand is clearly, explicitly (insanely) framing the issue as a moral one. This is clearly the winning angle. Obama, to my knowledge, has never come out as President with the simple message, repeated over and over by his underlings and allies, that the US health care system has failed because it is an utter moral failure, that can be corrected only by policy makers dedicating themselves to the idea that health care is a right for all Americans. This is a position from which a morally coherent policy can be formulated, and then defended using the same argument. I'm sure Obama has made this point at some time, but it's certainly not Talking Point #1. Looking forward, I expect Palin to continue to completely pwn the President.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:18 PM
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1. Driving the national discourse? She's driving shit.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:18 PM
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2. So you remember how the "palling around with terrorists" worked?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:20 PM
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3. sorry but the day Palin owns Obama I'll be in Canada
the only reason Palin even gets a mention is because our media is so fucked up.
try again
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:21 PM
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4. I'm sure it will work as well for Vice President Palin as it did in the campaign
Gessh. More hand-wringing.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:21 PM
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5. Sarah Palin is a right wing racist.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:21 PM
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6. pwn
palin is a clown, a side show. The dog barks as the caravan rolls along through the night.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:22 PM
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7. Um, President Obama doesn't care about dipshit losing Vice Presidential candidates.
The only ones who care what Sar-uh Failin has to say are her weird base of fundamentalpatient oldsters who make about as much sense as she does when they ramble on.

Our President has, you know, more pressing matters on his mind. Like that of cleaning the Reagan/Bewsh mafia's messes.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:22 PM
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8. It's the AP talking. Consider the source.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:22 PM
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9. No, she's pwning the r/w. She can't hold a candle to Obama. nt
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:23 PM
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10. BTW I hope never see Todd's wife's name here again.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:24 PM
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11. There's no competition between Palin and Obama, so how exactly is she 'winning'?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:25 PM
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12. You left out the punch line
:wtf:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:26 PM
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13. Guess what? REALITY, SANITY and REASON pwns Palin, the Simple
She prolly lost more votes to the Blue side than W Bush....and the Pubs still love her? OMG...the whole bunch is Looney
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:26 PM
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14. Wow - I knew DUers hated Obama, but this surprises even me.
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cravermi Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:26 PM
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15. Palin is an idiot appealing to idiots!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:29 PM
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18. Welcome to DU.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:34 PM
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21. That's a fact

Welcome to DU.

:hi:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:28 PM
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16. You need to check out Palin's Poll Numbers.
:rofl:

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:33 PM
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20. She's talking, but only a few are listening except for comic relief
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:29 PM
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17. Um.... when Halloween comes, and health care has passed... get back to me.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:30 PM
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19. Palin is a common citizen who is unemployed - who cares what she thinks
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:35 PM
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22. Palin is a nobody and nobody cares what she has to say anymore n/t
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:36 PM
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23. Agree on the moral angle. That needs to be emphasized. Health care for all =
moral...
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:45 PM
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24. You need to see Maher rip her apart
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:53 PM
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25. Sarah doesn't have the mental agility to pwn anyone at all
She is just another nobody from a failed reality show and now her 15 minutes of substantive fame are up. The election season was the Rapture and she was left behind. I am sure she will land somewhere where she will engineer herself an epic fail - but for the moment, no one wants to be in on that last stand with her. Radio is shunning her, the party is shunning her, anyone with an ounce of brain power or real moral fiber won't be seen with her. It isn't very pretty right now in Sarah-land.

Other than a small fringe group of people lacking in the ability to think critically, no one listens to a word she says. Even if someone tried, the word salad style and lack of comprehension of issues is a turn off for anyone who isn't stuck on stupid. The audience she has right now is as good as it will ever get for her, and upon reflection, she might realize one day that when she quit her governorship, she ended any chance of being even slightly influential, not to mention driving a stake in any national political future she may have hoped to create for herself. With the kind of stupidity she has demonstrated since leaving office, she has become rather a laughingstock.

A insignificant number of gullible and agnry foul mouthed protesters haven't done a thing to derail health care reform. It is going to happen, and all we seeing now is the final stages of building whatever consensus is possible. But the gullible racists and those who are spinning the most easily debunked lies about reform have turned themselves into nothing but cartoon characters, without any shred of credibility left.

Sarah Palin who? Sounds familiar, but can't place the name.
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ConnorMarc Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 10:12 PM
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29. Bwahahahahahahaha!!!
You are classic dude.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:56 PM
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26. LOL!
You are hilarious!
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Progressivism Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 09:59 PM
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27. Death panels ?
I wonder where she gets this information.I have doubt on the thought that she knows it is false information. She may be simply biased,but, this seems too far.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 10:15 PM
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30. They're funeral home curtains.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 10:05 PM
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28. Other than the use of the term "pwn"
you make some very good points in your post, particularly in terms of the moral debate, or non-debate, as it may be.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-15-09 10:22 PM
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31. Fuck palin and the dumbshits who
think she's owning anything but her gawd damn dirty laundry.
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