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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:01 PM Original message |
Go to Leavenworth for 18 months, lose most of your net worth, beg for your job back. . . |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Are you being funny? |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I doubt he ever will. . .people like you won't let him forget. |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Why should Vick have a second chance? Most felons are marked for life as "bad apples". nt |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. And if they are lucky enough to get a job. . . |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
58. People know what kind of person he is now. |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #58 |
76. Bingo! Our society comes down way too hard on non-violent 1st offenders. nt |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
75. Exactly. How can we expect felons to try and be law abiding if we dont give them a 2nd chance? nt |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. So, that makes it right??? n/t |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #57 |
77. No. What Vick did was a violent act of agression using dogs. He is getting off lightly IMO. nt |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
68. Because this policy is wrong for America |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #68 |
78. For non-violent first offenders I agree with you 100 percent. nt |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. According to a guy just on Ed, all he needs to do to get Americans to forget... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. . |
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Viper Mad (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. A felon who tortured helpless animals...not a felon who wrote bad checks. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. When a person is sentenced the length of their punishment is determined. . . |
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Viper Mad (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I understand that any sociopathy can be defended by those who think the perpetrator |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. +1 nt |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Explain to me where I called him the victim, just because you lack the sophistication |
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Viper Mad (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. You did not and I did not. I was speaking in general terms...if that isn't permissible I apologize. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Uh.... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #51 |
86. Maybe they meant you implied he was a victim "figuratively" and not "literally" |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
81. No. As a felon most companies want nothing to do with you. No credit either. Vick has it easy. nt |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
80. Exactly. Lets not forget all the blood those dogs spilled thanks to Vick and his ilk. nt |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. I was thinking what GD needs is another Vick thread |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Well if you don't like it you could have ignored it. . . |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. +1 |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thank you nt |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. that first part is the worst too |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. Sure, he deserves a second chance |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. amen |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Actually no one would probably let him sell cars. . . |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. too bad |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
82. Then he can work in a slaughterhouse. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I wouldn't buy a car from him. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. On behalf of my Scottish Terrier Maggie.... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. And that will follow him around for the rest of his life. . . |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I was hoping for more.... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
61. he could start by acknowledging what he did..and then atone for it |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. A mistake???? |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #61 |
84. Well said !!!! nt |
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Viper Mad (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. +many |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
14. He has earned his second chance...it's up to him not to blow it. n/t |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. he hasnt earned shit |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Hey if the fans of the NFL don't like it stop watching the NFL |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. He paid his debt to society and society does not have the right to keep him from earning a living... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Very well said |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. earning a living |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Yep! Great role model, that Vick. Nice job NFL! Profits trumps TORTURE and immoral behavior! |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Then take it up with the NFL... |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. clearly society isnt done with him |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Walmart isn't hiring? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. +1 nt |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. +1...n/t |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. +1 nt |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
83. Follow the money. He should be banned, like bad doctors who cannot return to practice again. nt |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. i agree |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Only he knows and very lucky his actions and words in the future will tell the story |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I am sorry... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. And there are tens of millions of folks who share your hatred of him . . . |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Oh boohoo. Leave Michael Vick alone! |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. That is what speaks to your ignorance. . .if you read my posts throughout this thread. . . |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. My ignorance? Oh that is rich. You are telling people to leave him alone. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Yes you display your ignorance in your response. . . |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You go! |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. And again your ignorance is getting in the way of you getting the point |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Sure you are. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Tell me where I say we should take pity on him. . . |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. You are. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You can interpret it anyway you want. . .but I don't feel sorry for him. . . |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I don't see anyone stopping him. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
85. +1 n/t |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
33. Yes, my heart weeps for a man who had dogs torn apart for fun and profit.... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Slap on the wrist? Can you tell me what the sentencing guidelines are for the crime. . . |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. The law hasn't caught up to the wholesale carnage Vick took joy in. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Well he wasn't banned. . . |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It must be suck to defend Vick. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I am not defending him, I am not defending his actions. . . |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #44 |
87. That's the kind of brilliant response I would expect from a Vick apologist. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. +1 nt |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. +2 |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
66. How many convicted felons get their jobs back? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
69. or, maybe this? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. "because you can throw a ball" - ding! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Incest can be part of a cultural upbringing, so can "giving" teen daughters to church elders |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I like her, but it seems everyone is subject to knee-jerk when cobbling a defense of 'culture' |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
79. +1 |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Oh poor baby |
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