Time to “Scrap Health Insurance Reforms”

[FreakinDJ]

Sorry – but there I said it

If we can’t have a “Single Payer System”
Not even a “Government Option Plan”

Then sadly just drop the issue

I rather the Democrats sit back and blame the RATpubliCONs for run away healthcare cost, discriminatory and predatory Insurance Company practices then pass a round of Health Insurance Industry handouts similar to Bushit’s Medicare part ‘D’

If we pass the Insurance Reforms as the Health Insurance Lobby have successfully implanted into the Bill, then I’m afraid this will give the RATpubliCONs all the ammunition they need to retake the House and Senate in 2010.

Without a “Government Option Plan” organized along the proven effective methodology of Medical, I don’t see any thing that will lower the cost of Health Insurance for the average American. Also given the NEW requirements of doing business I see plenty of reasons the Healthcare Industry will raise premiums

Sorry – under the current provisions it is time to call it a day

Don't get me wrong - I'm ALL INFAVOR of passing Reforms as Obama proposed it, just not the reforms the BlueDogs/Health Insurance Lobbist have proposed

[FiveGoodMen]

1. Needed to be said

If we're not lucky, things will get worse instead of better.

[dflprincess]

2. I agree

except Obama seems to be leaning more and more toward the Blue Dogs and appears more concerned about protecting pharma and the insurance companies.

Mandating insurance coverage is not going to improve access to health care if the out of pockets are so high that you still can't afford to see a doctor. If the CBO is correct and HR3200 would only have 10 million on the public option in 2019 (assuming there is a public option) I fail to see how that will help most of the 50 million uninsured - and there won't be anyone on a public option before 2013 with this bill.

It looks more & more that we will continue to pay more and get less than anyone else in the industrialized world. We're better off letting the current system collapse rather that settling for faux reform and change only CEOs can believe in.

[kenny blankenship]

3. Let the Free Market work its Magic!

Always the greatest hope and ally of the revolutionary...

[ipaint]

4. The health insurance companies agree with you.

In the sense that they know people are demanding reform, if they don't push a bill through that does not include a public option or if reform fails they are toast. As they put it-

"If healthcare goes down this year, you are going to end up with single-payer care much sooner than anyone expected"

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/07/business/fi-healthcare7?pg=1

"The rate of aging far and away exceeds the birth rate," said Sheryl Skolnick, a CRT Capital Group healthcare investment analyst. "That's got to be very scary. . . . This is the biggest fight for survival managed care has ever faced, at least since they went bankrupt in the late '80s."

With Democrats in power and public sentiment strongly in favor of change, the industry can't afford to just say, "No; we're against this," said Julius Hobson, a Washington, D.C., lobbyist for hospitals and insurers with law firm Bryan Cave.

"This time, you get the sense something is going to happen," he said. "So to stand up and just say no is probably not wise, because politically you could get run over."

For insurers, getting "run over" would be the adoption of a so-called single-payer plan, where the government pays all medical bills. Such a plan would wreak havoc on the private insurance market, and is widely viewed as politically unfeasible this year.

So the best way for the industry to preserve the private insurance market -- and derail the campaign for a single-payer system -- may be to go along with more palatable proposals on the table now, said Jeffrey Miles, a healthcare analyst and president of the Miles Organization, a Los Angeles insurance brokerage firm.

"If healthcare goes down this year, you are going to end up with single-payer care much sooner than anyone expected," he said.

[jtrockville]

5. We need health CARE. We can do WITHOUT health insurance.

I am NOT in favor of health insurance reform. I'm happy to allow the free market determine the fate of this industry.

However, I strongly feel that delivering health CARE to everyone is of utmost importance - preferably without being forced to subsidize the salaries of health insurance CEOs.

[berni_mccoy]

6. Unrec. I don't agree that politics should come before the lives of the uninsured.

More than 18 thousand Americans are dying each year because they can't afford healthcare either because they are uninsurable (with serious or chronic illness) or they are poor. This needs to stop.

The sick and poor deserved defense and the Democrats must come to their aid.

What you are suggesting is giving up and allowing the issue to be used politically. While I am usually for sticking the repubs with their own backlash, this is not a case where it is morally allowable to do that.

[onyourleft]

7. You lost me at the first...

...RATpubliCONs.