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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:02 AM
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Randy Hook yells at his senator, Arlen Specter (D-Pennsylvania), during a town hall meeting on health care on August 12, 2009. (Photo: Carolyn Kaster / AP)

Howl
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist

Friday 14 August 2009

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by
madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn
looking for an angry fix ...


- Allen Ginsberg


If you've ever wondered what lurks at the very bottom of the American political barrel, look no further than the scenes that have been playing out in health care town hall forums across the nation over the last couple of weeks. Members of Congress who favor President Obama's health care reform program returned to their districts to speak to their constituents about the details of the president's plan, and were greeted with howls, screams and shrieks from right-wing protesters bent on blowing the whole process to pieces.

No debate. No conversation between intelligent parties. Just yelling.

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent her chamber home for the summer recess with a list of talking points to respond to constituents' questions about pending health care legislation," reported the San Francisco Chronicle last week. "But those traditionally sleepy town hall meetings have become rowdy shout-fests across the nation, including Northern California, with opponents hanging members in effigy and mocking them with Nazi and devil imagery in an effort to derail discussions of health care. They're organized in part by conservative think tanks like FreedomWorks, which offers tips on how to disrupt a meeting ('Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep's statements early,' says one) and helped in some cases by anti-tax 'Tea Party' sympathizers. More than 500 people packed a Napa town hall hosted this week by Rep. Mike Thompson, D-St. Helena, some shouting down panelists by yelling 'This is America!' and 'What's wrong with profit?'"

"Repeated heckling and shouted interruptions - 'Answer the question!' 'We're your employers!' 'You don't get it!' - overtook a town hall-style meeting in rural Maryland this week," reported the Boston Globe, "as US Representative Frank M. Kratovil Jr. withstood a verbal beating from a partisan crowd airing its displeasure with the health care overhaul working its way through Congress. Scenes like this are playing out across America. As Congress returns home for its summer break, conservative activists are packing community halls and school cafeterias to protest the health care legislation, hoping to derail President Obama's top domestic priority. In Texas, Representative Lloyd Doggett was confronted by a crowd chanting 'Just say no!' In Philadelphia, protesters shouted at Senator Arlen Specter and Health and Human Services Secretary Kat hleen Sebelius."

"Rep. Brad Miller (D-North Carolina) will not be hosting any town hall events this August - instead, he's making himself available to constituents for one-on-one meetings about health care reform - and at least part of the reason is this: His offices have received threatening phone calls, including at least one direct threat against his life," reported Talking Points Memo. "'We had no town hall events scheduled for the August recess anyway, but in light of everything that's happened - we have received a threatening phone call in the D.C. office, there have been calls to the Raleigh office,' said Miller communications director LuAnn Canipe, in an interview with TPM. The threatening call in question happened earlier this week."

Death threats, bellowing disruptions, a few brawls here and there, and for all intents and purposes, an important national debate between political leaders and the public was shredded by right-wing activists - many of whom don't have health insurance - who shouted themselves hoarse because they don't like the president. These "protesters" have been filled with a bewildering budget of lies and misinformation by the organizers behind these protests, and by national Republican leaders who seem to think derailing health care reform will win them some elections, and be damned to the people themselves.

In the short term, the tactic appears to be working. A recent USA Today/Gallup Poll seems to indicate support for the protesters has been solidified by their yowling mess-making. "The raucous protests at congressional town-hall-style meetings have succeeded in fueling opposition to proposed health care bills among some Americans," reported USAToday, "particularly among the independents who tend to be at the center of political debates. In a survey of 1,000 adults taken Tuesday, 34% say demonstrations at the hometown sessions have made them more sympathetic to the protesters' views; 21% say they are less sympathetic. Independents by 2-to-1, 35%-16%, say they are more sympathetic to the protesters now. The findings are unwelcome news for President Obama and Democratic congressional leaders, who have scrambled to respond to the protests and in some cases even to be heard."

This is what has become of the Republican Party in the 21st century. Those Gallup numbers appear on the surface to indicate the "protests" are having a positive effect for the GOP, but dig a little deeper and a different picture emerges: a solidifying of support among people who already support the Republicans. In other words, the GOP is once again rushing into the demented embrace of their base instead of trying to broaden their appeal.

The Republican Party is shrinking, and screaming as it does so. If these town hall "protests" are any indication, what we have is a GOP so demonstrably starved of ideas that all they have left is howling disruption and mindless noise. It may be effective in the short term, but it is yet another indication that the Republicans have little to offer the nation except sound, and fury, and nothing.

http://www.truthout.org/081409A
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:05 AM
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1. You know, it is really sad knowing that there are so many
ignorant Americans. The rest of the world is looking at us and shaking their heads at our insularity. I really wish I had the money and health to relocate. I grew up in the 60's and have witnessed and experienced a shit pot load of hate and racism. I am fed up and so disgusted right now I just want to go away.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:06 AM
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3. Not just ignorant but full of hate and rage
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:12 AM
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6. G.Carlin said if you wanted to know how fucked up the U.S. is, watch TV commercials for a week
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 12:14 PM
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17. yes, quite accurately too nt.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 04:28 PM
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30. Ignorance and arrogance are a particularly bad combination.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:16 PM
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34. At least they've gotten over their apathy.
:sarcasm::puke:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:14 PM
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33. And damn proud of their ignorance. Astounding, isn't it? n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:05 AM
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2. There is more sound and video bite fodder for coming elections than I ever thought there would be
From ordinary citizens to lying sacks of shit politicians like Grassley.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:10 AM
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4. I, for one, don't believe the poll. I was on a telephone town hall last night in deep red Arkansas.
It was with Rep. Mike Ross, head of the Blue Dogs, so one would have expected it to be filled with these anti, howling types. It was very respectful and through a series of poll questions Mike got it. The majority want reform!
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:17 AM
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9. You might want to rethink you opinion of Mike Ross,,
The very fact he is a Blue Dog, means he is one step away from being a Repug,,he is trying to walk a very thin line that, a lot of us progressive Democrats don't trust what he has to say...IMO
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:20 AM
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12. There were 6,534 people on the phone from his district (bright red) and yet they voted 59% to 41%
for reform. This came from an audience where 61% were on some type of federal/state health care program.
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:31 AM
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15. I know,I live in his district, I am not saying he dosen't try to do it right ,but I
I think he is trying to appeal to the Repug side as much as the Demo. side, which in this state is almost impossible, considering NW Ar. and Central Ar are "Razorback Red",,
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:12 AM
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5. SIEG HEIL!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:15 AM
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7. Rec (I actually look a lot like Ginsberg, but w/much longer hair)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:15 AM
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8. Reminds me of
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:17 AM
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10. I am so mad I didn't think of that first
:rofl:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:19 AM
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11. Ping... pong... ping... pong.... They'll be back and stronger than before
No accountability for Bush/Cheney means the next Republican administration will probably be the one that destroys what's left of this country.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:09 PM
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19. Good point.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 03:36 PM
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27. +1 nt
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:20 AM
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13. howl
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:23 AM
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14. *
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:49 AM
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16. I remember the Palin Bounce.
And thought: this is a nation of Idiots.

Still. She fell, ten days later.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 12:43 PM
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18. Well, Gee. Maybe Congress and Pelosi Will Decide To Decide, Then
Maybe all this phony bipartisanship will end, all this negotiating away our lives, liberty and happiness will stop, and Congress will actually produce something worthy of the effort and responsive to the need of The People.


That was a nice daydream! Back to reality....
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:11 PM
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21. G.Carlin's definition of bipartisan: "A larger than usual deception is being carried out."
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:10 PM
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20. This line says it all:
...the Republicans have little to offer the nation except sound, and fury, and nothing.

Thank you, my dear Will...

K&R

:patriot:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 02:13 PM
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22. Thanks, CP
:hug:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 02:17 PM
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23. I try to
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 02:21 PM
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24. Another poet said it well, too.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 02:50 PM
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25. Until yesterday, I never had a reason to be ashamed to have been born and raised in PA.
I was actually sick to my stomach when I saw the behavior at Arlen's Lewisburg town hall. Those are not the people I grew up with.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 03:34 PM
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26. People this enraged are temporarily insane.
You cannot argue (much less discuss anything) with a crazy person. In other words, so much energy is spent here and elsewhere, trying to analyze the rantings of people who are in a state of rage. This is futile, they need to be calmed down nomatter what.

I learned a lot a couple years back when someone close to me was processing a lot of rage, by googling anger management techniques. I recommend this to anyone who hasn't done so, it is most interesting and enlightening, especially at a time like this.

It is most important for us to remain calm at all times, and realize fear and anger need an enemy. If they somehow are convinced we are not their enemy, it can diffuse the situation.

First and foremost, don't take anything personal. (One of the 4 agreements) Serendipitously, I happen to have someone living in close quarters who is dealing with post traumatic syndrome, and is dealing with uncontrollable rage, and she doesn't like me. So while I am writing this, I am learning too. :)

Peacefully, Windoe
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 04:15 PM
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28. The smaller the party gets,
the louder they get. What they lack in ideas and policy, they try to make up for with volume. It's sad that they are so predictable. Arrogant and cocky when in power, and crazed and hysterical when they're not.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 04:20 PM
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29. Chris Hedges: "Radical politics fills empty lives."
n/t
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 09:23 PM
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31. Evening kick
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:25 PM
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32. Recommend
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:05 AM
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35. If a bunch of nutcases howl in the forest . . ..
and there were no right-wing talk radio show hosts egging them and corporate-sponsored websites giving them targets and wall-to-wall media coverage of their screeching, did they really howl?

I find it interesting that the voices of a million-strong who took part in a peaceful march in NYC before the Iraq War netted little-to-no MSM coverage, were supported by no corporations and were harassed by the City of New York, from permits to cages to riot police to multiple arrests, were not heard at all. Yet, these brown shirts yelling inanities at town meetings are covered constantly and invited to appear on talk shows, as if they are "real" people.

This is the right-wing version of the Yippies - taking over the media with theatrics for political reasons. Only this time around, the media is controlled by very corporations who want to show their "anger" and their theatrics are incredibly boring and uncreative.

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