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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:47 PM
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Man accused of making threats against the WH in stand off at Federal Bldg in LA
WESTWOOD -- A man accused of making threats against the White House led officers on a wild freeway chase that ended in a standoff outside the Federal Building.

The man was wanted on various local warrants, says police Sgt. Kevin Lowe.

His is also wanted for questioning by the Secret Service as part of a federal inquiry into threats against the White House, says Lowe.

U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan says the suspect made a threat but would not give details.

Police have not publicly identified him.

But the Daily Breeze is reporting that the red Volkswagen Beetle is registered to Joe Moshe, a resident in the 8300 block of Creighton Avenue.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-secret-service-chase,0,735045.story

Gee, I wonder if he is a BECK viewer!
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:51 PM
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1. It would not surprise me in the least if he was a Beck fan
Or someone who was a fan of Skeezix, Hannity, or Coultergeist.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:53 PM
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2. Whoever it is has themselves in a real tight spot. Video link.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 05:54 PM by Parker CA
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:56 PM
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4. REAL tight - got him a Hummer on top of him practically
Holy shit!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:55 PM
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3. Ladies and Gentlemen....The ragAss symphony orchestra....
:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:06 PM
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5. They're coming out of sewers. n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:08 PM
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6. Live TV feed here: Robots and army tanks? (per twitter)
Fox, unfortunately.

http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html

Armored vehicles, not tracklaying tanks.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:15 PM
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7. Too Funny! LAPD's Robot couldn't get up a curb. Toppled over...
:rofl:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:54 PM
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8. Bring in the car.. Bring in the car!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:07 PM
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9. Well, they have a new helicopter on station now....
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 07:07 PM by MineralMan
Cops are many, nearby, behind other cars. There's a robot next to the Volkswagen, and a cop with a shield or something crouching behind the pickup truck. Looks like they're thinking about doing something, but it's looked like that for some time.

This is on the ABC feed...link three messages above.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:11 PM
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10. Update: There's no audio with this helicopter, so I can't tell
what anyone's thinking. This has been going on for hours. The guy in the VW must be absolutely baking in that car. It's a sunny day, and all the windows are rolled up.

The robot hasn't moved. It looks like it has a camera looking into the VW. I think it's possible that the guy inside is dead, but if that's the case, why haven't the cops moved in?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:19 PM
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11. Update: Photo from live copter feed:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:20 PM
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12. The guy is in the red VW...
Cops in the foreground. Crummy image, because it's coming from a FOX chopper, I think. The KABC ABC copter photos were much better, in HD. It went to refuel.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:26 PM
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13. Update:Nothing yet...same cops standing around.
It looks like it's all LAPD.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:28 PM
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14. Looks like they just switched to the suspect's house.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 07:28 PM by Connie_Corleone
Oops. Back to the standoff now.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:29 PM
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16. LAPD in action is like watching paint dry, where's Reno 911???
I think this slow motion mess is 5 hours old with no sign of changing anytime soon.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:28 PM
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15. Update: Chopper shot of the house of the owner of the
VW. News vans are showing up. Cops in garage of house. Neighbors standing around watching. Apparently no danger here.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:30 PM
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17. Update: Robot appears to have been withdrawn.
May be some action about to start.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:32 PM
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18. Update: The cops are all on the side of the car that is all boxed
in. They really have no effective approach to the VW. Any approach will have to come from the other side of it. There doesn't look to be even enough space on the driver's side for a person to come alongside.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:34 PM
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19. Update: Video feed lost...
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:35 PM
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20. Update: Robot returning to car with something.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:37 PM
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21. Update: Teargas deployed, windows opening...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:37 PM
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22. Update: Robot emitting gas...
It's going down. I'm on the ABC live feed.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:38 PM
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23. Update: Can see gas inside VW.
No movement. No door opening. I think the guy inside is dead.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:40 PM
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24. Yeah, I was waiting for him to get out the car after the tear gas was thrown in.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:40 PM
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25. Gas done. Still no action. Cops still standing around behind
SWAT vehicles. This is slow, slow, slow!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:41 PM
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26. Robot completely withdrawn.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:43 PM
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27. Speculation that the robot is going for a second canister of gas...
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:47 PM
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28. Second Canister of Gas Deploying...
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:50 PM
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29. Poor Wall-E is still on its side in the street. LOL!!
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:51 PM
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30. What's the latest
with this? Have they cought him yet?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:53 PM
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31. Just deployed more gas. Cops came in spraying more tear gas, quickly retreated. Fire???
Can't tell, cops took off suddenly.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:55 PM
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33. Weird. 3-4 cops from rear and 2-3 from the side all came in, then backed off after spraying.
Not sure why the sudden retreat.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:55 PM
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34. Looks like the inside of the car is on fire. How anyone can last in there is nuts.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:57 PM
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36. Has been in car for +/- Seven Hours. Off his meds.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:53 PM
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32. They rushed the car, sprayed the interior with a hose, then
the gas overran the cops. Still no movement from inside the car.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:56 PM
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35. goodness
the guy inside the car set his car on fire?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:57 PM
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37. No. Probably it was the tear gas. I don't think there was a fire.
I think the guy in the car is dead. Probably has been for some time now. It's time for them to go over and have a look, I think.
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:58 PM
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41. I think they
just put another can of tear gas in there.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:58 PM
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38. Third Canister of Gas Deployed manually. Driver has no mask, is choking and gagging...
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:58 PM
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39. come on, birther dipshit, get outta the car.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:58 PM
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40. All kinds of smoke pouring out of the car.
Just before this, a couple of cops were at the back of the car with their rifles, they backed off, then the smoke started.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:59 PM
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42. How does he even breath?
They've filled the car with smoke several times now.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:01 PM
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43. At this point, I think it's a giant
clusterfuck. Seriously. They rushed the car. Nobody shot at them. It's over, I think. If they don't kill him with the gas, I'll be surprised.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:03 PM
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45. Pretty hard to imagine how someone in a little VW bug with windows up is tolerating this.
It looked like the driver's side window came down during one of the gas attacks, so maybe the driver is still alive. Just crazy to think how.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:03 PM
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44. I'm outa here...guess I'll find out in the morning...
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:11 PM
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46. Wall-E's backing up.... way back.
Wonder why.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:12 PM
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47. And now back at the window? And backs off again.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:15 PM
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48. Probably checking to see if the guy is still alive. Can't be doing too well in there.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:16 PM
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49. Is that the guy's arm in the VW's window?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:32 PM
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50. Fourth round of tear gas....
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:37 PM
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51. They're going to breach the driver's side window next.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:44 PM
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52. Breached. Good call. n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:45 PM
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53. Tasered. In custody now. n/t
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 08:47 PM by Subdivisions
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 11:21 PM
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54. What's His Login At FreeRepublic? /nt
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