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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:00 AM
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How to mess with gun-totin' protestors heads...
bring a laser pointer pen and discretely put the dot on their forehead.. let THEM decide if it's just a laser pointer or the ten Secret Service snipers who probably have the guy in their sights anyways.

:rofl:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:07 AM
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1. I like the way you think :)
+1

:rofl:
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:08 AM
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2. Point it at their chest, not head.
They can't see it if it is on their forehead. And if you mistakenly get it in their eye they might can have you arrested.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:10 AM
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4. The secret service would be going for the head shot and
I'm sure someone their would point out the new "friend" on their forehead to them..

:rofl:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:18 PM
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14. Too many movies
Your chest is about 6x larger than your head, depending on what size body you have, and it doesn't move around as quickly. It's a much, much better target, no matter how skilled a marksman is. Going for a head shot as you describe is more likely to result in hitting someone else. A security person's prime objective is to neutralize the threat a shooter would present, and there is much better chance of that happening by aiming for the body.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:22 PM
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15. Negative
The Secret Service are pros (we trained with them in the Marines) and shoot for center mass.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:30 PM
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19. Well there are times the pros shoot other than center mass.
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 10:31 PM by Statistical
Defeat drill is one.

Two to center mass, then one to the head.

If target doesn't go down with controlled pair (euphemism for double tap)doesn't stop the threat more center mass shots may be ineffective and waste time.

Generally speaking you are right a sniper would aim center mass.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:37 PM
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20. Exactly. My first thought when I read the post you replied to. (n/t)
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:10 AM
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3. Of course, you will most likely be taken down by the SS for doing so.

And if you hit his eyes and damage his retina...

Good advice. Get a declue.

:rofl:

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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:15 AM
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5. Of course a gun owner would know only "snipers" in movies use laser sights.
They look cooler.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:19 AM
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6. !
:rofl:
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:24 AM
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7. No. That could start the shooting; probably get innocents killed... nt.
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 11:24 AM by Strong Atheist
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:25 AM
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8. I've got a better idea
It's time to repeal the second amendment.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:33 AM
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10. Have fun tilting at that windmill. n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:47 AM
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11. Shows what one asshole can do to change minds
I would have never even thought something like that on Monday. Would never have even considered supporting the repeal of the second amendment.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:02 PM
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13. How can you repeal a right that does not depend upon the Constitution? SCOTUS said in 1876,
in United States v. Cruikshank “{t}his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence."
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:29 AM
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9. How stupid.
Pointing a laser at someone to simulate a laser sight is the same as pointing an unloaded or fake firearm at someone. Wanton endangerment and terroristic threatening.

I would not indict anyone who killed a non-LEO person for threatening them with a simulated or real laser sight.

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:24 PM
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17. I use lasers to jam cameras all the time...
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 11:47 AM
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12. I'm afraid the gun toter would pull his gun, get shot by SS, and someone near him would be hit. n/t
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 12:25 PM
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16. Laser sighting indicators are mostly used in movies
The only time I used one in 7 years in the military was in training, either to
A) show a shooter some deficiency in his marksmanship fundamentals (eg, the track of the laser shows you how he is breathing, the motion as it is fired shows if he is jerking the trigger)
B) diagnose a problem in a weapon's sight alignment ("but I really was pointing that way", etc.)

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:41 PM
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22. Some law enforcement use them
in service guns... but not snipers

The logic, if the bad guy sees the dot, they might decide to just become very compliant. So it is seen as just another tool in the arsenal to bring compliance.

As to the military... you are right... but the movies are great right?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:49 PM
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23. Lasers on firearms are not uncommon at all...
my son in law has one on his Glock pistol. I've considered buying one for my S&W snubnose revolver.

While not cheap, they are effective. (You don't use them like normal sights. You can fire accurately from your hip for example. The dot is on the target, you pull the trigger.)

Take a glance at this website:

http://www.crimsontrace.com/
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:28 PM
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18. Snipers use UltraDots?
I wouldn't think that an elite sniper would ever rely on a laser sight for their shot.

I may be very wrong though.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 10:38 PM
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21. That is such a bad idea!
But since we're on the subject of bad ideas, it occurs to me that big intimidating black men have just as much right to carry firearms as frightened white men do. I'd say a line of about twenty silent, staring men, with a few more people videotaping the rednecks and their license plates, might be enough to disperse the teabaggers almost instantly.

Or, it might start a war.
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