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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:45 AM
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You must watch "Democracy Now" today. "C" St House "the FAmily"" is even worse than reported
Edited on Wed Aug-12-09 07:46 AM by annm4peace
http://www.democracynow.org/


It is live as I post this but in a little while the show will be transcriped and you can read it.

the writer of the "the family" of those in "C" street. The secretive fundamentlist and their destructive ways.

It is about the Sen Grassley and his part in the murderous regime in Somalia.

They are, sick, sick, sick.

On the link you can see where you might be able to watch or listen in your area.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:48 AM
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:51 AM
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2. The DOJ and FBI and IRS all should be raiding this "HOUSE"
Once the book the "family" came out.. they should have raided this house.

all the politicians should be immediately investigate and their homes and computers raided.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 07:54 AM
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3. Please post clips of transcripts that should go up in a couple hours
I'm have to go to work so can't post anymore.
this is too important. the writer talks of other articles he has written.

He is discussing much more than what he reported on cable news.

We all should be calling our Reps and the DOJ to call for an investigation into the family
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waiting Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:02 AM
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4. I'm just glad that they are still talking about this
The Family and the people who support them want this publicity to go away. They want that more than anything else. The best thing to do is to keep this topic in the first page and for people to talk about it with other people.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:05 AM
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5. Jeff Sharlet is on Jon Stewart tonight.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:25 AM
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12. Thanks for the heads up
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:24 AM
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6. Kicking this.
Thanks for posting. :kick:
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 08:28 AM
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7. kicked and recommended
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:12 AM
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8. K & R. DN is the best newscast going.
You just can't beat a newscast that's not supported by war-profiteers. It has that certain 'truthiness' to it the others don't.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:21 AM
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9. ttt
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Papa Boule Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:21 AM
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10. Kicking this hard - I wish every person who was raised a fundamentalist/evangelical could watch this
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:22 AM
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11. Thanks for posting
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 09:15 PM
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13. Some snippets from the interview
Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power. He is a contributing editor for Harper’s and Rolling Stone and a visiting research scholar at the New York University Center for Religion and Media.

The Family’s devoted membership includes Congress members, corporate leaders, generals, foreign heads of state, dictators. The longtime leader, Doug Coe, was included in Time Magazine’s 2004 list of the twenty-five most influential evangelicals in America.

Well, Jeff Sharlet is the author of the bestseller, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power. In 2002, he joined the Family’s home for young men at an estate in Virginia, becoming a member of the Family’s so-called “new chosen.” After years of research, he published the book.

What’s really disturbing about this is not the sex scandals, but the agenda that they’re pursuing beyond that. The Family, unlike most Christian right groups, is not so concerned with domestic issues as international affairs, foreign affairs, and a kind of approach to economics they call “biblical capitalism,” an extreme deregulation, laissez-faire. They take the invisible hand very literally.

the C Street house has been in the news. There’s only one other property that the organization owns. The main headquarters is this beautiful mansion overlooking the Potomac River called the Cedars. It’s worth about $5 million. They bought it with money supplied for them in part by the former CEO of the defense contractor Raytheon,— oil executives. A guy named Tom Phillips. And around that house, there’s a number of houses that are sort of support houses. One of those was called Ivanwald. That was where young men were being sort of groomed for leadership, men in their twenties. I was sort of pushing it at around thirty at the time. And so, I went and lived with these guys for about a month. And in that capacity, I got to visit the C Street house, I met Senator Ensign.

Unlike other Christian right groups, they don’t really believe that you’re in power because you’re a good person. They have no illusions about these guys. They believe that they are, as you said in the beginning, the “new chosen,” that you’re chosen for power by God. You’re not so much elected by the people as selected from above. And when you’re in that position, it doesn’t matter what you do. You shouldn’t do these things. They don’t want you to do these things. But it doesn’t matter what you do. Ensign is a powerful man, not because he’s of good character, but because he’s been chosen by God. In a similar vein, the foreign leaders with whom they work, the dictators, about whom they have no illusions, are chosen by God for their countries, regardless of how brutal they are.

They believe that organized labor is ungodly, to put it mildly, perhaps Satanic. It began with this vision in 1935 that the New Deal and organized labor were literally a Satanic conspiracy they had to fight back.

In the 1950s, in the Cold War, they started moving overseas and identifying strongmen, dictators, who they thought were effective in the fight against communism, who they thought were effective in the fight for free markets. And Suharto was one of those men. You know, Suharto, who—even the CIA, which helped him orchestrate his coup, later said it was one of the worst mass killings of the twentieth century.

The Family leaders called it a spiritual revolution and began sending delegations of congressmen, oil executives, over to meet with Suharto. They then hosted Suharto, actually, in the United States Senate for a Senate prayer breakfast with their members, to which they invited the then-Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They have that kind of access. And they were able to arrange that kind of reach for Suharto. And they effectively became his most persuasive champions within the US Congress, as the United States funneled, as we know, just billions of dollars toward his military regime.


AMY GOODMAN: And Siad Barre of Somalia?

JEFF SHARLET: Yeah, dictator of Somalia. It’s, to me, one of the scariest stories that I found in their archives. I was able to recreate this, because they dumped 600 boxes of papers in the Billy Graham archives. Siad Barre was a—not a likely candidate for Christian right recruitment, called himself a Koranic Marxist. But in the early ’80s, the Soviets had abandoned him. There had been a power shift between Somalia and Ethiopia. He was in the market for a new patron. And working through Senator Chuck Grassley, Republican of Iowa, of course still in office—

AMY GOODMAN: Talk more about Chuck Grassley, who certainly is in the news now, who, together with Max Baucus, heads the Senate Finance Committee.

JEFF SHARLET: Yeah.

AMY GOODMAN: Baucus, Democrat; Grassley, Republican. Very powerful figure, especially around healthcare right now.

JEFF SHARLET: Indeed. And Grassley has been involved with the organization for quite some time, since the ’80s, when he traveled to Somalia to join Barre, Siad Barre, in prayer to Jesus. And he brought with him a defense contractor named Bill Brehm.

And Barre was a kind of a cynical character, as you might expect for a dictator. He was very clear. He says, “I’m willing to pray to Jesus, and here’s what I want in return.” He says, “I want my defense budget doubled.” He says, “I want meetings for my officials with the Reagan White House. And I want a sort of a hands-off policy while I crack down on some rebels.” Doug Coe, the leader of the group, wrote back, in essence, “Done, done and done.”

And when we look at history, so it was. And Barre used those weapons, supplied to him in part by the US, to wage a war of almost biblical proportion on his own people, from which Somalia has not recovered to this day. The Family doesn’t consider that a failure; they consider that God’s will for Somalia.

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that is just a bunch of snips from the interview. I hope you watched or listened or read it.
I bet a lot of Iowans would like to know what Sen Grassley has been up to for the past 30yrs.





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