I'm about to sound like a concern troll....

[Critters2]

but I've about decided there's not going to be any meaningful health care reform at all. First, single payer is off the table. Now, Durbin is willing to give up on a public option. What's the point?

Someone, talk me down.

[yourout]

1. At this point I am taking a wait and see approach....that is about all we can do.

[stillrockin]

2. right on both points.

if you're mad, you're paying attention. we're screwed once again.

[Skittles]

3. took you that long to figure it out?

[Critters2]

5. My mistake seems to be in thinking that we won the last election.

Did I get that wrong?

[Skittles]

7. yeah, we "won"

[autorank]

27. "They" won, they always win.

[Critters2]

29. Ain't it the truth? nt

[autorank]

30. And so it goes

...to Hell in a hand basket. But isn't it comforting to know that the Wall Street guys who caused the
economic meltdown are save in their jobs, secure from the public finding out the full details of how
badly we were ripped off. It's a sort of jobs program ... for failed executives.

[Wapsie B]

4. My only hope is that there can be some incremental progress as time goes by.

If someone like Durbin gives up on a public option you have to know the fix is in by big insurance.

[Critters2]

6. It's so discouraging, Wapsie! nt

[Wapsie B]

10. Yes it is Critters.

I'm afraid I may be on Medicare myself before something meaningful comes down the road.

[Horse with no Name]

23. "HOPE" and "CHANGE" in incremental spurts

Yeah, that works!:eyes:

[WeDidIt]

8. Even if we lose the public option in the Senate

The conference committee could put it back in as the House version has it.

[Critters2]

11. Ahh....a tiny bit of hope.

Thank you!

[Maru Kitteh]

14. I don't care how the public option gets there as long as it is THERE.

My family NEEEEEEEDS this.

[dflprincess]

9. You forgot to add, that no one's talking about health care reform anymore

even Obama calls it Health Insurance Reform. And the "reform" seems to be that we'll be required to contribute to the insurance companies.

Apparently we voted for change CEOs can believe in.

[Wapsie B]

13. +1

[sandyd921]

12. Sorry can't talk you down

because I can't talk myself down. Disgusted doesn't describe it. :banghead:

[nightrain]

15. how about betrayed?

[sandyd921]

25. That too. n/t

[NutmegYankee]

16. I'm tired of talking people down - Just jump and go splat and get it over with...

Geez, that phrase jumped the shark months ago. Seriously.

[Critters2]

18. Geez. Sorry. I didn't get the memo. nt

[surrealAmerican]

17. Read what Durbin actually said.

It sounded more like a "tactical" move to me. Not very encouraging, but hardly a decisive abandoning of any hope for a public option. We won't really know until they hammer out one final bill from all the current proposals. I'll wait until then, but I'm nervous about it too.

[Critters2]

19. Thanks. I will. nt

[Uzybone]

20. Its time to give up

its what we liberals do best.

[Fridays Child]

21. The cry should be "Public Option Or You're Fired!"

[Lorien]

39. I like it! nt

[Taitertots]

22. There isn't going to be meaningful health care reform

Durbin taking the public option off the table signals to me that Obama is already a lame duck. Obama needs to get on the bully pulpit and slap those fuckers into line.

Also, where is Obama? These DoucheBaggers are telling lies all over, interrupting town halls, and dominating media coverage. Obama needs to get out there. Seems he forgot now that he is done campaigning for President, he needs to start campaigning for his ideas.

[Hissyspit]

26. He countered right-wing lies in his weekend message. I thought he did it pretty well.

It's not enough though.

[Taitertots]

31. We need more

He is being eclipsed by the opposition. A campaign, not something the RW media machine can sweep under the carpet of ignorance.

[Hissyspit]

32. I agree.

[rug]

24. He's got to tone it down on health care so he can pull out of Afghanistan.

[autorank]

28. There you go. We are finally asked to "sacrifice"

... our lives.

[Warren Stupidity]

34. you don't honestly believe that, do you?

[rug]

35. No.

[Warren Stupidity]

33. Our leaders start out to negotiate the terms of their surrender.

They set out to lose at the bargaining table by conceding their strongest position. It would be shocking if we hadn't seen it all before.

[progressoid]

36. They'll call it reform, but it'll be an appeasement to the corporate bosses.

Sorry, can't talk you down.

[ddeclue]

37. Jump! Jump! You're right...nt

[eridani]

38. Keep advocating for what you want

No point in a final up or down recommendation until we see what the final bill actually is.