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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 08:56 PM Original message |
The grave injustice of COMMEMORATING victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well Said, Ma'am! |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
77. Thank you Magistrate. |
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Alamuti Lotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
91. What is your opinion on the Russian dimension? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:42 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. There Are Two Russian Dimensions, Sir |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. Interesting. How have you commemorated the rape of Nanjing? n/t |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. They are in my thoughts and I am posting this information to ensure that |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. That's a start, I guess. But, how do you commemorate it? |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Definition of commemorate: to make honorable mention of. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Okay. So, to make sure I'm understanding you correctly ... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. What is it you're smoking? Where have I ignored any calls of peace? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
87. We do not justify what WE did just because the other guys did something bad first. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:29 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Who is doing that? Who is justifying what the US did because of what other guys did first? |
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
195. You're doing that |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #195 |
201. I'll ask you the same question what are you smoking? Nothing in the OP |
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. Maybe you should reread your OP, titled "the grave injustice of commemorating the victims |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. Obvisiously you're unable to read a complete sentence |
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. hence the second portion of my sentence, |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #204 |
209. Your initial response, post #93 clearly misrepresents my position. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #58 |
241. how one can act as an apologist for nuking civilians |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #241 |
253. How you can completely mistate my position is beyond me. My position is clear |
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buzzycrumbhunger (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
68. Some, apparently, make it Family Fun Day |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. none of that justifies the incineration of the cities of hiroshima and nagasaki |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. That isn't the issue. The issue is that the suffering of 30 million people has gone |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yes, dear. Of course. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Why the snarky remark of "yes dear, of course"? As for Japanese being nice. |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
111. I can't believe you're getting such backlash from your post. |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
213. Backtrack a little Snag, |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:09 AM Response to Reply #213 |
234. It wasn't aimed at her, but it's still an incredibly snarky thing to call someone... |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. So, is it also an 'interesting side effect' that 9-11 will give us 'shiny new' skyscrapers? |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
70. Oops. I thought the response you made to Warren Stupidity was made |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. actually- yes, it did. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
71. You should read about the 90 years of so of US-Japan relations |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:45 AM Response to Reply #71 |
97. Yeah right. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #71 |
119. had commodore perry just left well enough alone... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. Amen |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
121. If you want to feel guilty, fine. Use "I" not "we". nt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #121 |
160. deliberately targeting civilians is a war crime |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #160 |
169. there are no civilians |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #169 |
196. have a nice day |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. You forgot about the Koreans.. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I didn't forget Koreans. I mentioned them in my OP. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Sorry - I missed the one mention of them - you discussed China in detail but not so much the Koreans |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. To adequately address what the Japanese did in all the countries it invaded |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
129. goes back further than that. |
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annm4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. can we not condemn all atrocities and remember all victims? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:07 PM Original message |
That's a nice saying but it's not always true... sometimes you have to face down force with force. |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. +1 |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
124. Not if you are trying to make it value neutral, no. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-11-09 07:54 AM Response to Reply #124 |
279. exactly |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
151. Yes, we can, and yes, we should. Well said. n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. all that being said, to acknowledge the harm done by our Bombs- |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Well said...August 6 and 9 are for the remembrance of the only use of nuclear weapons. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. I do not minimize the suffering endured by civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. yes, I believe you do not only minimize it, but try and deflect |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Why You Feel, Ma'am, That Fire-Storm 'Doesn't Compare' To Atomic Detonation Quite Escapes Me |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. have you seen the results of the radiation on the populations ? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #66 |
85. None Of That, Ma'am, Is News To Me |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
247. +1. great post, i wish i could rec it. nt |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
75. I don't believe anything in the OP indicates that I am using one |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. One atrocity has nothing to do with each other. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Actually, Sir, There Is A Direct Connection |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yeah, yeah, yeah, butterfly flaps its wings, hurricane other side of the world. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No, Sir, It Is Cold Fact |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. That Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the logical consequence of Nanjing? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Do You Seriously Pretend It Was Not, Sir? |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Pearl Harbor, not atrocities in China, got the US into the war against Japan. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. There was a China Lobby in the U.S. after Nanking |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Then You Need, Sir, To Inform Yourself Better On This Passage Of History |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. To repeat, Pearl Harbor resulted in the US declaration of War against Japan. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. And Pearl Harbor Resulted From the Train Of Events Presented Above, Sir |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. No, Pearl Harbor resulted from the US oil embargo. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Which, Sir, Resulted From The Train Of Events Described Above |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:01 AM Response to Reply #48 |
90. WTF?!?!?! |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. It would have just been a matter of time |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
215. And Pearl Harbor happened |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
88. Then your belief is WRONG. The US spent many YEARS trying to "persuade" the BRUTAL Japanese |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #88 |
131. Some people can't accept the have been clueless on a topic for years. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #131 |
266. Well said. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
100. Pearl harbor WAS BECAUSE of an oil embargo |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
128. And Pear Harbor was in response to America's |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. No, and it's a common little logical fallacy... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Cute, Ma'am, But No Cigar: What You Are Doing Is A sort Of 'Victim Masquerade' |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
133. Well said. It was a 6 week pillage and rape vacation for "hard working troops". |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
165. The study of history is a HATE CRIME!11!!1!!11!! |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
184. I think it's clear to everyone |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. You Know, Sir, One Of These Days Cut-And Paste Artists Will Have To Provide Dates For These Quotes |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #185 |
187. I'm agreeing with you completely |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. Comedy, Sir, is Best Left To Professionals.... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. Oh this is rich. As I observed earlier you clearly have no handle on the facts nor |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Oh stop. I'm agreeing with him. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Jokes, Sir, Divide Into Those Which Are Always Funny, And Those Which Are Funny Only Once.... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
120. So there is no direct connection between brutal imperialistic expansion and occupation |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Nonsense, Sir. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Not In The Slightest, Ma'am |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
61. Well stated, Magistrate! |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
83. Hear. Hear. nt |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
101. I say old man, WELL DONE! |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #23 |
142. Well played! eom |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
99. Direct connection |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
267. Maybe Truman did, maybe he didn't, but |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. Unit 731 - the Japanese were developing weapons of mass destruction |
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steaa (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
167. If I recall correctly, a deal was made with the US military |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #167 |
207. You are correct about Unit 731. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
275. The unspoken tragedy of H&N which I wanted my OP to address |
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The Mailman (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. Interesting... |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
73. the same kind of atrocities Bush committed. |
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The Mailman (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
171. I was thinking |
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The Mailman (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. dp |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. NOTHING justifies a nuclear bomb that killed innocent people |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. That, Ma'am, Is Not Even A Good Bumper-Sticker, Let Alone A Considered View Of The Events |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. I'm not writing a bumper sticker |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. This apparently happens every August 6. I thought it was over for this year until this post. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
65. How nice the want to move on and shake off their past. In todays Korea Herald, |
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The Mailman (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Apparently! |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Actually, Ma'am, That Is All You Are Doing |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
109. Stuff it, Sir |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #109 |
140. He is already overstuffed and inflated. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #140 |
158. Now There, Sir, Is A Text-Book Overthrow Of A Point Pressed With Fact And Logic.... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Touche Magistrate. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:07 AM Response to Reply #140 |
233. Two wrongs never make a right |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #233 |
251. Ah, But Three Do, Sir... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #109 |
157. Your Decision To Blind Yourself, Sir, Neither Concerns, Interests, Or Binds Me |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #109 |
255. +1. exactly. bravo. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
141. I think you're missing the point. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #141 |
166. Your Well-Reasoned Comment, Sir, Is Much Appreciated |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #166 |
174. Well, there are a few separate questions here. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #174 |
178. Our Views, then, Sir, Would Seem To Be Largely Similar, Or At Least To Have Substantial Overlap |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. But there are those who have a need to rationalize this unique American use of nuclear weapons. n/t |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. Nothing justifies deliberately misquoting an OP. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #53 |
110. What's next? The Germans were justified in murdering Jews? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
170. Oh, Do Expand On That One, Ma'am.... |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Well Said, Ma'am! |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
74. But we're Americans, everything we do is ALWAYS justified. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Tell who gives a shit about the 30 million people Japan killed. Who gives a |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #82 |
137. They people that were killed in Hiroshima had nothing to do with that. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
94. It was justified. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
265. Just out of curiosity, what would *you* have done? |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
39. I'm glad you posted this. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
63. Thanks for that feedback. I'm really susrprised by some of the reactions. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
49. my dad was in the army in WWII - mostly in New Guinea but the Philippines too for a bit |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
51. What Japan did in China indirectly led to the dropping of the Atomic Bomb. |
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Fleet (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
56. Thank you for sharing |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I am surprised by all the flack this OP created. Thanks for your comments. |
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Fleet (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
57. dp.... minds out of the gutter, that's double post |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
64. Let them grieve ... war sucks. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
81. My issue is that most people don't know half about what Japan did. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
67. You have described War as it has Ever been fought. Raping, Pillaging, |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
69. Recommend |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
72. K&R |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #72 |
116. By this principle, what should be an appropriate response to the War of Aggression against Iraq |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
76. The Japanese, sadly, have a very selective cultural memory |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Classic example |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. You don't really know anything about the Japanese, do you? |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:28 AM Response to Reply #79 |
103. I have actually heard scholars of Japan say what you just argued, Rabrrrrrr |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #103 |
113. And I live in Japan part of the year, and my SO is Japanese |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
80. Thanks for posting this , snagglepuss. It's too easy to armchair quarterback sixty |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Thank you for that feedback. I am really surprised at how much rancor this |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
86. Thank You! How easy it is for the apologists to IGNORE this "inconvenient" TRUTH!!! |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
89. I love a thread where The Magistrate posts more than once. Thanks for the thread. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:49 AM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Thanks Snaggle for your research and links... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
95. K&R!! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
96. Great post! |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
102. Massmurder of innocents because the more powerful want to extend their power is certainly |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:33 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. It Was Not Over, Sir |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:30 AM Response to Reply #105 |
226. Eisenhower held my view. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #102 |
118. Your fallacy is that you assume it was over. |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:32 AM Response to Reply #118 |
227. See my post #226 just above yours (nt) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
104. I knew very little of this. Thank you. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:41 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. It Is, Unfortunately, Little Known, And Even Less Appreciated, Ma'am, Here In The West |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #106 |
198. I'm watching Iris Chang on BookTV speak about her book, Rape. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #198 |
211. Thank You, Ma'am: I Will Keep An Eye Towards It |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
107. Ah, the good old "blame the victim" gambit... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:17 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. You Are The Second Person To Try That Puerile Wheeze In This Discussion, Sir |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Thanks for your posts here, Magistrate! Cogent, true, accurate - and "puerile wheeze" is lol! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #108 |
127. Indeed. It wasn't a war we wanted, but one we had to fight. |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #108 |
139. "puerile wheeze" lol! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #107 |
126. wow |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
112. An outstanding OP, and educational thead. Thank you. nt |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #112 |
276. A belated thank you. I am astonded that it has received so much flack |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
115. "It was justified." "They started it. We ended it." So, what would be a just response to Shock&Awe? |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Exactly. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #122 |
125. That wasn't the point. See #123 n/t |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #115 |
123. You are missing the point (or just projecting). |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #123 |
132. This is about dropping a Bomb on Civilians. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Exactly. It was the fastest way to stop the Imperial Army. |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Did you not hear ,Einsinhower stated they were ready to surrender before the Bomb |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. "surrender" vs surrender. |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #136 |
146. Hindsight is awesome that way.... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #136 |
172. The Statement, Ma'am, Was Made Many, Many Years After The Event |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. As is yours however his & other military leaders who where there at the time cary much more weight |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. At Least, Ma'am, You Are Giving the Search Engines a Work-Out.... |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. I do my best to provide relevant information to support my views |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. And A Poor Best It Is, Too, Ma'am.... |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Thank you for illustrating my point |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. You Have Said You Are Breaking Off Several Times Already, Ma'am, And Yet, Here You Are.... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #181 |
186. En guard Magistrate. Which might I ask of your posts are more |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #172 |
214. Don't call me Ma'am ,, Bitch. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #214 |
237. You Know, Ma'am, It Would Probably Be Worth Alerting On This, But Best To Let It Stand |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #237 |
269. Game. Set. Match. |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #115 |
144. Absolutely nothing do with the OP, thanks for playing. eom |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #144 |
150. how clever! pardon me if I'm somewhat under-whelmed by your sycophantic lack of any kind of case |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #150 |
154. I don't think sycophantic is a good term to use here, but I'll play... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #154 |
268. The fact that the 30 million deaths are victims of fascism is paramont. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
117. Excellent post.. nt |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
130. So, it's not about what is Just, but, rather, what works. But, what if it hadn't worked? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
134. K&R |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
143. You forgot Poland. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #143 |
152. I don't understand how Poland factors into a thread about Japanese atrocities. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
145. "the Japanese to this day refuse to fully acknowledge their guilt." |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Ouch. n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Don't forget "Long Live the South!" |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #145 |
156. So if you are concerned and rightly so about harm inflicted on First Nations |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #156 |
161. logic problem in your post |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Glaring lack of historical fact in yours. Japan killed 30 MILLION people, not POWS |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #145 |
163. It would be a better analogy if we claimed Columbus was a victim at the hands of Native Americans |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
147. "I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal." -Curtis Lemay |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #147 |
260. DING.DING. DING . You have hit the nail on the head. H&N commemorations |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
153. My stand these days is quite simple... you want to remember |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #153 |
192. That Some Do, Ma'am |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
155. We don't hear about it because the collective consciousness thinks they have atoned. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
164. The Chinese, not the Japanese, are ascendant. *They* have not forgotten what Japan did in WWII |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
168. Sigh. It's not a contest. |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. +1 |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #168 |
193. +2 |
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Umbral (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
175. The war couldn't end until the United States proved it could be just as wretched as the enemy. |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
177. Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan (2005) by Tsuyoshi Hasegawa |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
194. What more do you want? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #194 |
197. some here wish to pretend that the one nation on earth to ever |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #194 |
199. A formal apology would be a good thing. The governments of both |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #194 |
200. Portraits of Manzanar |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #194 |
206. Pitiable, Ma'am |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. I am asking what more do you want... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #208 |
210. Nowhere Near Enough Was, Or Has Now Been, Done, Ma'am |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #210 |
218. so you believe there should have been |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:16 AM Response to Reply #218 |
220. The Japanese would have loved those. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #220 |
221. Everyone of them? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #221 |
225. What hate? This is merely facts. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #225 |
235. I am not uncomfortable about the truth. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #221 |
262. Hatred? Please be so kind to state which posts you refer to. I hope you have |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #218 |
236. That, Ma'am, Is Simply Hysterical Distortion |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #236 |
240. Ironic to hear someone ignoring crimes while accusing others of ignoring crimes. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #240 |
244. You Do Not Even Take That Statement Seriously Yourself, Sir.... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #244 |
245. Not at all. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #245 |
250. Again, Sir, Utter Nonesense |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #250 |
252. I agree that the bomb does not absolve the guilt of Japanese crimes. Similarly... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #252 |
256. War, Sir, And Revenge, Will Continue On This Earth Quite Independent Of Me.... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #256 |
258. You can claim that bombing an innocent, urban population was necessary? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #258 |
259. Spoken, Sir, Like A Man Who Has Never Given Six Minutes Consecutive Thought To The Problem.... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #259 |
261. The point at which we disagree is this one. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #261 |
270. well stated |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #261 |
273. Welcome To My World, Son |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-11-09 06:27 AM Response to Reply #244 |
278. full regalia |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #206 |
216. I have read that 75% of American POWs of the Japanese never came back alive |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #194 |
219. We want the Japanese to acknowledge the Rape of China and Korea. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #219 |
222. again,,, |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #222 |
223. Yet they continue to visit the Yasukuni Shrine. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:11 AM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Is there something wrong with honoring your dead? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:35 AM Response to Reply #224 |
228. Nothing wrong with honoring the dead. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:54 AM Response to Reply #228 |
230. Gunshin .. |
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
205. If only I had a sock puppet |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
212. Article 9 of Japanese Constitution states that |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
217. kr |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
229. NHK's Finest Hour: Japan's Official Record of Chinese Forced Labor |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
231. I wasn't aware that anyone was forgetting about Japanese atrocities... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #231 |
248. I think H&N commemorations should be framed as a commemoration of |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #248 |
254. Here's a difference. We did Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So WE must reflect on it. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #254 |
263. We should reflect on the fact the fascist ideology embraced by the Japanese |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
232. Japan remembers Chinese who died through forced labour |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
238. I am stunned by this OP and all the support it's getting. Those Japanese civilians |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #238 |
239. It shows we are a far sicker country than them. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #238 |
242. Agree |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #238 |
257. But Neither Stunned Nor Educated, Apparently, Ma'am, By It Content.... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #257 |
264. what's with all the pomposity and condescension? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
243. "The grave injustice of COMMEMORATING civilian victims"??? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #243 |
246. Yes, how dare anyone commemorate victims!!! |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #246 |
249. "Wouldn't be prudent" to commemorate My Lai either |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #243 |
271. its a bit sociopathic actually |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #271 |
274. Care To Expand On That, Sir? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #274 |
277. It's pretty self explanatory by what I meant |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
272. Yes... never commemorate victims, especially the US's victims |
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