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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:41 PM
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Why doctors and medical facility owners say they want single payer HC
I bet they don't want it if an insurance company ran it and actually looked for fraud before it's paid. They think "if we can defraud on all customers the way we do with medicare and medicaid, hell yeah I'm for it."

And this is just the ones they have caught

http://www.medicare-fraud.net/


https://www.noridianmedicare.com/bene/claims/fraud.html
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:48 PM
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1. because medical billing is a nightmare!
If there were a single payer, you'd submit all your bills to one location, probably electronically. As it is now, medical billing can send out hundreds of claims to just as many payers who apply their own rules about what to pay.

Fraud isn't just from the medical providers...the payers are a mess!!
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:56 PM
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2. You might reconsider your post title. I don't know a single doctor or facility owner who wants
single payer government health care.

I am a physician and work with many other physicians and those who own and run facilities.

Some doctors may defraud Medicare, but it does not follow that most doctors are making more money off of Medicare than they are off of non-government insurance. I assure you, the vast majority are not.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:01 AM
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3. I don't know any that want it either, but you hear on here that they do
Easier fraud would be a reason, I guessed.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:02 AM
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4. Then you must not have heard of this group:
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:09 AM
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5. I want universal health care based on the Swiss model - multipayer not single
In Switzerland everyone has medical insurance. High risk patients are shared between insurance companies to equalize risk and those too poor to pay for insurance get government reimbursement for their coverage. This allows for a remarkable range of individualized policies that can be remarkably innovative. For example, one 5-year policy refunded something like 30% of the policy premium if the individual was as healthy or healthier at the end of the 5 years as they were at the beginning. Anyway, in short, it allows for a great deal of innovation and cost savings while still insuring everyone.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:33 AM
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6. *sigh*
I don't know anybody on DU who is more mis-informed on health care than you are. First of all, most doctors don't support single payer. Second of all, an increasing number of doctors don't take medicare or medicaid. Third of all, the doctors engaged in fraud are not the kind sacrificing their time and money to attend conferences advocating for poor people.

Teachers used to put kids in corners with dunce caps on and it was a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Just sayin'.
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